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[maltrain]

Update:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/the-extent-of-kinect-2-s-visual-drm-is-beginning-to-emerge/0116138

To address the question of the age of the patent. Yes, the patent is old. But we have been told by UK industry sources within the last month that this system will be implemented on Xbox One.

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Xbone: Will Kinect 2 Use Visual DRM?

Source: IGN

ExtremeTech discovered the filing back in November, which is labelled as covering "content distribution regulation by viewing user." Theoretically, if the Kinect establishes there are more people in the room than is permitted according to the licence that users agree to when renting of purchasing content, the movie won't play.

"The users consuming the content on a display device are monitored so that if the number of user-views licensed is exceeded, remedial action may be taken," it reads.

According to unverified "industry sources" spoken to by MCV within the last month, this is a real thing Microsoft is planning to implement on Xbox One using Kinect 2.

This can't be serious... right?

Today, however, the company has responded to speculation with the following statement: "Microsoft regularly applies for and receives patents as part of its business practice; not all patents applied for or received will be incorporated into a Microsoft product."

Pretty vague... as always.

Lock if old... I didn't find it on search.

 

[PorygonVandal]

It would be fun if someone gets really fat or thin and the console doesn't recognize him anymore

 

[Spongebob]

I think we had a similar thread yesterday.

 

[Gleethor]

This will deter piracy.

 

[Dead Prince]

first it's xbone can't be used without kinect, now this? Sony can't catch a break.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

How is the response vague? Seems pretty clear to me.

 

[Ravensmash]

This won't happen.

People may like to paint MS as this cartoon villain, but I think something like this would be stretching it a bit.

 

[Starwolf_UK]

This thread doesn't have the IGN article in the OP but has the same train of thought.

My view. Easy to get round. Just have most people sitting outside of Kinect field of view. Why not all? What if Kinect has a useful "feature" where it auto pauses when you walk away?

 

[Vandiger]

Maybe for PPV, early release movies, NFL games, etc. I can see that from my cynical perspective.

 

[ASIS]

There is no way, NO WAY in hell they are actually thinking of doing that.

This thread doesn't have the IGN article in the OP but has the same train of thought.

My view. Easy to get round. Just have most people sitting outside of Kinect field of view. Why not all? What if Kinect has a useful "feature" where it auto pauses when you walk away?

If Kinect can't see you then the movie won't play, it has to be positioned correctly to give you permission to watch the movie.

Again, this is not happening, not with Xbox One.

 

[maltrain]

How is the response vague? Seems pretty clear to me.

A clear answer would be: "No, we won't use it" and add all the rest then.

 

[Pop]

If Sony fucks up now, I won't know what to think.

 

[fluffydelusions]

It would be fun if someone gets really fat or thin and the console doesn't recognize him anymore

or grow a beard

 

[Deleted member 1235]

This won't happen.

People may like to paint MS as this cartoon villain, but I think something like this would be stretching it a bit.

exactly. it would be the actual point at which a lot of people would say 'FUCK THIS CONSOLE' as opposed to the current whining that will obviously result in most still buying it.

 

[Guevara]

This won't happen.

People may like to paint MS as this cartoon villain, but I think something like this would be stretching it a bit.

To be fair, it's more like the content holders are the cartoon villains (and I have no trouble believing that). MS is just their dimwitted accomplice.

 

[Zabant]

This will deter piracy.

You are correct, because nobody will buy the damn thing.

 

[granabanana]

They have totally lost it if they go ahead with it.

 

[maltrain]

This thread doesn't have the IGN article in the OP but has the same train of thought.

My view. Easy to get round. Just have most people sitting outside of Kinect field of view. Why not all? What if Kinect has a useful "feature" where it auto pauses when you walk away?

What if... I cover the fucking camera? It's still ON, right? XD

 

[DietRob]

Couch model coming soon.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

A clear answer would be: "No, we won't use it" and add all the rest then.

Then it descends into why did you take out the patent,etc, etc, etc. This is the clearest response you could ask for without it descending into a race to the bottom.

 

[maltrain]

Three months ago: "Always on? It won't happen, they are not so dumb!".

Well...

Three months ago: "Always on? It won't happen, they are not so dumb!".

Well...

Three months ago: "Mandatory Kinect? It won't happen, they are not so dumb!".

Well...

 

[NeoRausch]

people need to realize that companies patent ALL KIND if shit. that Deurne mean they will use it.


remember the Wii horse bag riding... thing.

 

[Cynar]

hahaha I was joking about this the other day with my friends. The music industry does this by going to offices and charging people per listener, forcing the office to pay a special license as it's now a performance. I am so appalled that they would actually consider even doing this but it's hilarious at the same time.

 

[Liha]

 

[Portugeezer]

Seems unnecessary. They already made it activate games online, adding Kinect to that (i.e. not even allowing a friend to log onto your account) would be ridiculous.

 

[Fistwell]

To address the question of the age of the patent. Yes, the patent is old. But we have been told by UK industry sources within the last month that this system will be implemented on Xbox One.

 

[airborn]

Imagine this being applied to NDA's. Should be fun!

 

[fates]

people need to realize that companies patent ALL KIND if shit. that Deurne mean they will use it.


remember the Wii horse bag riding... thing.

Yeah this.

But still, like I noted in the other thread... the fact something like this was even conjured up is a pretty frightening thing on it's own.

 

[raphier]

What if... I cover the fucking camera? It's still ON, right? XD

What if... it detects whether whether you are engaged and pauses the service accordingly? Do we have to bring this point forever now?

 

[Sojgat]

Would not surprise me at this point.

 

[maquiladora]

I think that if this was in at launch then we would have heard about it along with the other stuff thats been leaked. Most of that was proved right in one way or another. This however was only a patent.

In the future though? Maybe...

 

[NeoRausch]

What if... I cover the fucking camera? It's still ON, right? XD

camera is covered. please remove cover.

all your media will be blocked for this time.

sincerely,

yours Microsoft.

<3

 

[Cynar]

I think that if this was in at launch then we would have heard about it along with the other stuff thats been leaked. Most of that was proved right in one way or another. This however was only a patent.

In the future though? Maybe...

This would enable the possibility, once you allow this tech into your home you're giving up that privacy. Scary to think about.

 

[sestrugen]

 

[DietRob]

What if... it detects whether whether you are engaged and pauses the service accordingly? Where is the IQ when it's needed people.

"Dave, I detect you are about to score on the couch. Pause."

 

[industrian]

It would be fun if someone gets really fat or thin and the console doesn't recognize him anymore

Then they'd just make a Kinect Fitness game.

*bing* Achievement Unlocked! You can play all your shit again!

 

[kodt]

What about those guys with those life size sex dolls? They'd be screwed.

 

[NemesisPrime]

Can the OP ban himself please? The stupidity is getting out of control.

 

[MThanded]

Don't worry. I'm on it.

 

[Winterfang]

I think that would be illegal.

 

[TCKaos]

Just watched that.

Fuck my life.

 

[epaturun]

Black Mirror S01E02 - i posted this on the other thread that got locked - too close to this - UK view can on 4OD worth watching

 

[chubigans]

Geez, I've been using photoshop too much this week, hah.

 

[Barakov]

I think that would be illegal.

That would be my thought as well.

I'm not surprised that they would try this, though.

 

[Mr. Robot]

*family sits down to watch a movie*

Kinect: "I detect more persons than your digital license allows, somone please leave the room"
Joe: "Xbox shut down camera"
Kinect: "I'm afraid i can't comply that action, Joe please leave the room or buy an extra license for only 600 microsoft points"

 

[Particle Physicist]

Kinect spying on you! Haha, no way this happens. They aren't that foolish.

 

[Contra11]

Unbelievable !

 

[mckmas8808]

This is getting silly.

 

[javac]

The thing can also measure your heart rate so no fooling this thing!

 

[bishoptl]

MCV update added to the OP.