Xbox and Bethesda Developer Direct 25th January (8pm UK / 3pm ET / 12pm PT)

Godot25

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Imagine separate Starfield showcase with God Howard in style of Fallout 4 presentation that lasts 30 minutes

World is not prepared for him and his leather jacket.



But for real. It's great that Microsoft decided to separate Starfield from other games, because Starfield would probably suffocate all other games during presentation. It's also great that Microsoft is finally able to properly manage expectations and can be bothered to say "Starfield won't be there" before it. It will probably eliminate most of bitching that would be there if they didn't do it.

I'm looking forward to format of the show. No host is great news and I hope they keep it relatively quick and straight.

Question now is that if Starfield is really coming out in H1 2023. I expect it in June, but with game missing from this showcase I'm uncertain. But I guess, if they wanted to delay it they would wait for another showcase until E3 presentation...
 

MOTM

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Imagine separate Starfield showcase with God Howard in style of Fallout 4 presentation that lasts 30 minutes

World is not prepared for him and his leather jacket.



But for real. It's great that Microsoft decided to separate Starfield from other games, because Starfield would probably suffocate all other games during presentation. It's also great that Microsoft is finally able to properly manage expectations and can be bothered to say "Starfield won't be there" before it. It will probably eliminate most of bitching that would be there if they didn't do it.

I'm looking forward to format of the show. No host is great news and I hope they keep it relatively quick and straight.

Question now is that if Starfield is really coming out in H1 2023. I expect it in June, but with game missing from this showcase I'm uncertain. But I guess, if they wanted to delay it they would wait for another showcase until E3 presentation...
If Starfield is coming in June then the latest they would do a deep five is in March, we still have time.
 

Godot25

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If Starfield is coming in June then the latest they would do a deep five is in March, we still have time.
I would say that big E3 showcase in June with 3 Developer_Direct showcases (january, march/april, september) with deep dives sounds like a great idea. And considering how many games XGS/Bethesda have in development, I would say that this format was sorely needed.
 

PJX

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I wish I could get excited for an MS show. It's always the same type of games, FPS, Racing, and First-person games.
 

Godot25

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I hope you aren't suggesting I'm a Sony fanboy because that would be hilarious.

And yeah they lacking.
I'm not suggesting anything. Just reading between lines :messenger_grinning:

And no, they are not lacking
From 2020
Ori and the Will of the Wisps - 2D metroidvania
Bleeding Edge - Multiplayer hero brawler
Minecraft Dungeons - Diablo-style ARPG
Microsoft Flight Simulator - Flight Simulator
Tell Me Why - Storydriven "Telltale-style" game
Wasteland 3 - CRPG
Battletoads - mainly 2D brawler
Gears Tactics - X-Com style strategy game
Psychonauts 2 - action platformer
Deathloop - roguelite FPS
GhostWire Tokyo - open world first person game
Age of Empires IV - RTS
Forza Horizon 5 - arcade racer
Halo Infinite - FPS
As Dusk Falls - Storydriven "Telltale-style" game
Grounded - survival game
Pentiment - 2D adventure

This year
Starfield - RPG
Redfall - FPS
Forza Motorsport - sim racer
Mineraft Legends - hero RTS game
ARA - Civ-like strategy game

So, where exactly is XGS lacking variety? I mean. We can argue how many "A" each of these games have and also talk about their quality. But arguing about lack of variety is pretty hilarious.

I figured, that since you are complaining about lack of variety and only genre that is missing from this list is "cinematic third person action adventures," that it is exactly genre you are preferring:messenger_beaming:
 
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Emedan

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Those are dramatically different games.

It’s like saying AC Valhalla and GOW Ragnarok are similar because you run around with an axe in third person in both games.
Now that's not really true at all is it? There's way more similarities between NMS and Starfield, like space exploration on multitude of planets and resource gathering. If what you said would be true it would stop with "You use spaceships in both games".
 

Ozriel

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Now that's not really true at all is it? There's way more similarities between NMS and Starfield, like space exploration on multitude of planets and resource gathering. If what you said would be true it would stop with "You use spaceships in both games".

both games aren’t doing similar things. NMS has never evoked a ‘Skyrim in space’ comparison. Never, ever.

So no. It’s not just taking the same game type/narrative/world in NMS and scaling up the budget.
 

Havoc2049

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I'm predicting Redfall in early May and Starfield in late June. Forza Motorsport and Hellblade II this fall.
 
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PJX

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I'm not suggesting anything. Just reading between lines :messenger_grinning:

And no, they are not lacking
From 2020
Ori and the Will of the Wisps - 2D metroidvania
Bleeding Edge - Multiplayer hero brawler
Minecraft Dungeons - Diablo-style ARPG
Microsoft Flight Simulator - Flight Simulator
Tell Me Why - Storydriven "Telltale-style" game
Wasteland 3 - CRPG
Battletoads - mainly 2D brawler
Gears Tactics - X-Com style strategy game
Psychonauts 2 - action platformer
Deathloop - roguelite FPS
GhostWire Tokyo - open world first person game
Age of Empires IV - RTS
Forza Horizon 5 - arcade racer
Halo Infinite - FPS
As Dusk Falls - Storydriven "Telltale-style" game
Grounded - survival game
Pentiment - 2D adventure

So, where exactly is XGS lacking variety? I mean. We can argue how many "A" each of these games have and also talk about their quality. But arguing about lack of variety is pretty hilarious.
1 of them is 3rd party Wasteland 3
3 of them were 3rd party games and only became 1st party after the studio / publisher were acquired (Deathloop and Ghostwire ...two 1st person games. Psychonaut 2, lets be honest wouldn't have existed if they were own by MS before the game development and crowdfunding started
Halo Finite another FPS
Forza Horizon series isn't really an arcade racer. Yes it's not a pure sim but it's not an arcade racer either.
1 is from a second party studio As Dusk Fall
4 FP games in there.
 

Barakov

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Seems like it could be. I found a link to the Reddit thread where the show’s date, games, and ‘No Starfield’, were posted Jan 5th, four days before Jez’s tweet. The poster then confidently said Starfield was Fall 2023. Seems to be from Maryland and knows a Bethesda employee. Klobrille also doubts first half 2023 now.

>Whorzn4
You're a jerk and deserve a diamond cutter
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Godot25

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1 of them is 3rd party Wasteland 3
3 of them were 3rd party games and only became 1st party after the studio / publisher were acquired (Deathloop and Ghostwire ...two 1st person games. Psychonaut 2, lets be honest wouldn't have existed if they were own by MS before the game development and crowdfunding started
Halo Finite another FPS
Forza Horizon series isn't really an arcade racer. Yes it's not a pure sim but it's not an arcade racer either.
1 is from a second party studio As Dusk Fall
4 FP games in there.
Jesus. Even if you want to be nitpicky and throw out all Bethesda stuff (which is bullshit because Deathloop and GhostWire were released after acquisition. That's also why I did not included Doom Eternal because that game was released before buyout), even then you sounds stupid when you claim lack of variety. Wasteland 3 was also released after acquisition, same as The Outer Worlds.
Also, second party does not exist. If game is published by Xbox (which is case of Ori, Gears Tactics, As Dusk Falls, Tell Me Why, Microsoft Flight Sim, Age of Empires IV etc.) it is a first party game even if it is developed by third party studio.

And you finished it stupid claim that Microsoft would not let Psychonauts 2 to be developed? You mean that Microsoft that allowed development of Pentiment and Grounded? Sure bruh.
 
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Naked Lunch

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MS usually doesnt do shows like this randomly in the year outside of big shows like e3 - really cool to see and exciting.
Their 1st party output finally seems to be coming together.

I just glanced at some responses in this thread and it sounds like middle school snes v genesis all over again.
What is wrong with some of yall - goddamn. Silly.
 
1 of them is 3rd party Wasteland 3
3 of them were 3rd party games and only became 1st party after the studio / publisher were acquired (Deathloop and Ghostwire ...two 1st person games. Psychonaut 2, lets be honest wouldn't have existed if they were own by MS before the game development and crowdfunding started
Halo Finite another FPS
Forza Horizon series isn't really an arcade racer. Yes it's not a pure sim but it's not an arcade racer either.
1 is from a second party studio As Dusk Fall
4 FP games in there.
Dude, stop typing. You're giving me a headache.
 
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Helghan

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Think it will be Hellblade 2 and then some smaller games. I think we see a one or two of the XGS published games, maybe just me hoping for Stoic's game.
I honestly don't see Hellblade 2 as a heavy hitter. Unless it's so much bigger than the first one.
 

reksveks

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I honestly don't see Hellblade 2 as a heavy hitter. Unless it's so much bigger than the first one.
I think it's as big as Avowed and Redfall at least for Microsoft. I am not sure about Starfield and Forza level.

I do think the scope will have grown from the first game a decent amount but not sure how much.
 

DenchDeckard

Gold Member
Didn't even realise that game exist.

So it's the same typical MS IPs even though they are sitting on a ton of other great IPs.

This is just for the games we know they announced for q1 2023 so just need release dates. There will still be a show mid year for other exciting bits.
 

Roxkis_ii

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Weird how you’re a huge fan of Gran Turismo and racing games, but a showing of the first Forza Motorsport game in 5 years - the first next gen only racing game - is of no interest to you.

Ah. Right. Seen your post history.

Man, I guess if you like one game, you have to like all other games of that same type.

My bad for being happy for you.
 

Emedan

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You make it sound like that’s a bad thing. 500+ hours played on NMS, and in Starfield you can do the usual awesome Bethesda roleplaying and exploring, plus build your own spaceship. It’s going to be awesome 👌
I can't stand grinding...
 

Fredrik

Gold Member
I can't stand grinding...
The base building and ship building is most likely optional just like building a manor in Skyrim.

The main thing is their RPG magic, now in space. If you like their other RPGs you should be excited for this too. If you don’t like their other games you can always try it cheap on Gamepass 👍
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
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You make it sound like that’s a bad thing. 500+ hours played on NMS, and in Starfield you can do the usual awesome Bethesda roleplaying and exploring, plus build your own spaceship. It’s going to be awesome 👌
I love building shit and even buying able to have NPCs do tasks for your base?

Hell Yeah Yes GIF by IFHT Films
 

Emedan

Member
The base building and ship building is most likely optional just like building a manor in Skyrim.

The main thing is their RPG magic, now in space. If you like their other RPGs you should be excited for this too. If you don’t like their other games you can always try it cheap on Gamepass 👍
Well maybe you're right. I love Bethesda RPGs, I bought the damn Series X for TES6 so.
 

Emedan

Member
Yeah can’t wait to play TES6! Will probably play it on PC though. I wish they would give us a hint on how far away it is.
I would prefer PC as well (always have) but I play too little now to justify putting down that much money on a gaming PC, that's why I went with the Xbox instead. Yeah I'm awaiting the game as the second coming, it's killing me that there's so little info about it.
 
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