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Xbox are no longer rival with Nintendo and Playstation

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Airbus Jr

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With the next Xbox, Microsoft is done competing with PlayStation: 'We see Amazon and Google as the main competitors going forward'


This holiday season, both Sony and Microsoft plan to launch new, so-called next-generation versions of the PlayStation and the Xbox game consoles.

Goodbye, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One! Hello, PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X!

It marks the fourth game console "generation" in which Microsoft and Sony have gone head-to-head, starting with the PlayStation 2 and the original Xbox around the turn of the century. Nintendo moved away from competing directly with Sony and Microsoft's consoles years ago, choosing instead to create consoles geared to a different audience with the launch of the wildly successful Nintendo Wii in 2006.

These days, the "console wars" are a head-to-head between Sony's PlayStation and Microsoft's Xbox. But in 2020, Microsoft is shifting its business strategy in a way that could end them for good.
"When you talk about Nintendo and Sony, we have a ton of respect for them," Xbox leader Phil Spencer told Protocol in an interview published this week. "But we see Amazon and Google as the main competitors going forward."
Neither Google nor Amazon has publicly announced plans to launch a game console, but both are positioned to compete directly with Microsoft's Xbox when it comes to what Spencer sees as the next great expansion in gaming.

"Amazon and Google are focusing on how to get gaming to 7 billion people around the world," Spencer told Protocol. "Ultimately, that's the goal."

Though game consoles like Xbox One and PlayStation 4 sell in the tens or, in the case of PS4, hundreds of millions, the real potential market for gaming, Spencer believes, is in the billions of people on Earth who don't — or can't — own a game console.

"There are 2 billion people who play video games on the planet today. We're not gonna sell 2 billion consoles," Spencer told me in an interview in June 2018. "Many of those people don't own a television, many have never owned a PC. For many people on the planet, the phone is their compute device. It's really about reaching a customer wherever they are, on the devices that they have."

Do you want to play games on an Xbox? A PC? Your phone? Microsoft wants to reach you there — ideally across all three.

It's a similar approach to the Netflixes and Spotifys of the world — reach people on whatever device they have, wherever they are, with the media they want to consume.

To that end, Xbox has major initiatives across all three platforms: a new game console (Xbox Series X), a cloud gaming service (Project xCloud), and a Netflix-like gaming service (Game Pass).

"That remains core to what we're trying to do," Spencer told me in a more recent interview this past June. "To allow creators to reach the customers that they want, allow players to play the games that they want with the people they want to play with, anywhere they want. And it fits right into the opportunity ahead."

It's part of a broader effort at Microsoft to bring Xbox games to as many people as possible — even if those people don't buy a new Xbox console.

And it could mean the end of the console wars as we know them.

Source : BusinessInsiders


You guys seeing this?

Phil Spencer gona end the console wars

Do you see how beautiful is that ?

Xbox...Ps and Nintendo are friends now....

No more hostility...

The outcome of this statement ?

Xbox will release Bethesda game on Playstation..Nintendo...or any other system...

Maybe not on Google...or Amazon....because Phil Spencer sees them as the real enemy...

I mean...us xbox gamers should embrace this...

We support each other..

I ve been telling you....

CatLady....Catlady..Catlady....

Lady Berkanstel..Lady Bernkastel...Lady Bernkastel...

Gavon West....Gavon West...Gavin West....

Do the right thing...

Do the right thing....

Lets gather in circle...shake hands together...share the game...

Bethesda game on PS..

Bethesda game on Nintendo...

Bethesda game in PC...

Bethesda game everywhere...

Let us fight Amazon and Google together...

Xbox won....how awesome is that ?
 
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Thugnificient

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Reminds me of that kid at school who got their asses kicked but then claim there wasn’t really a fight and they got broken up before anything really happened.
 
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ZehDon

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This has been known since Microsoft said it the first time. Ultimately, they lost the console war. Sony has shown that, in the traditional console space, they're just too good. They beat out Sega, Nintendo, and Microsoft. They've earned their place at the top of the heap and no one's gonna move them. So, Nintendo decided to focus on their handheld niche, and Sega folded and became a publisher. Microsoft decided they'd lost the war, so they changed the rules of engagement. It's not about hardware sales, it's about software - the hardware is just an access point to the software. Will it work? Who knows - but damn if Microsoft aren't going to give it their all.
 

Kurd o Azadi

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Microsoft is putting sll ther eggs on gamepass route- lets see what happens, gaming market is different goat,

Things to watch out for

So y being aggressive next few years with ps now
 
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MrFunSocks

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PR gonna PR, who cares.

Maybe try putting in a source too to give the writers some credit.
 
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wolffy71

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I hope someone waits til tomorrow and then posts a new thread on this topic. My day wouldn't be complete without one.
 

vkbest

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What if Google, Amazon and xCloud fails? Even if its interesting I couldn't see like my main system to play games, what will happen when I have a problem with my internet connection? or when they decide to drop the system? or servers problems? if this is the future, gaming have a problem
 

nosseman

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Lol google already has 1.9+ billion users..
Good luck

How many paying customers for Google Stadia? ;)

What if MS get 500 million customers with GamePass/xCloud across console, tv (AppleTV, SmartTV, Chromecast) and mobiles?

I bet that MS would rather have 100 million subscribers in Gamepass this generation than to sell 100 million consoles.
 
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pasterpl

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Didn’t he say this like 6 months ago? and no, not all Bethesda games will be released on other consoles, same with likes of forza etc. Funny how people forget about ms paying multiple devs for xbsex console time exclusives eg. Stalker 2, crossfire X single player campaign, warrharmer game etc. Probably more to come.
 

Tschumi

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This is news?

Anyway I'm not sure how i feel about a kid ducking boko haram somewhere settling down under a bush to buy a better gun for halo infinite with his red cross money
 
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nosseman

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Amazon and Google?

thats should be easy.

Compete with Google and Amazon with a gameservice should not be that hard.

They are barely trying. Stadia is dying and we dont know how Amazons service will be but it looks like they are going the Stadia way.

MS has a HUGE first party lineup and they have shown that they are not afraid to put it all out on Game Pass day 1. Sony does not do this - they want you to buy their games for $70 and then in a year perhaps play it on PS Now.

Gamepass is growing and the more they grow - the more they can put on (or make new acquisitions) - just like Netflix. In the beginning Netflix bought almost everything. It was expensive and it disappeared after a while but they kept going and got some money and started to make own stuff with the money.
 
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Their statements would make sense if a significant part of their playerbase was using xcloud. But they're probably not?
Mates you got a console coming up but whatever you say jfl.
 
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With the next Xbox, Microsoft is done competing with PlayStation: 'We see Amazon and Google as the main competitors going forward'


This holiday season, both Sony and Microsoft plan to launch new, so-called next-generation versions of the PlayStation and the Xbox game consoles.

Goodbye, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One! Hello, PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X!

It marks the fourth game console "generation" in which Microsoft and Sony have gone head-to-head, starting with the PlayStation 2 and the original Xbox around the turn of the century. Nintendo moved away from competing directly with Sony and Microsoft's consoles years ago, choosing instead to create consoles geared to a different audience with the launch of the wildly successful Nintendo Wii in 2006.

These days, the "console wars" are a head-to-head between Sony's PlayStation and Microsoft's Xbox. But in 2020, Microsoft is shifting its business strategy in a way that could end them for good.
"When you talk about Nintendo and Sony, we have a ton of respect for them," Xbox leader Phil Spencer told Protocol in an interview published this week. "But we see Amazon and Google as the main competitors going forward."
Neither Google nor Amazon has publicly announced plans to launch a game console, but both are positioned to compete directly with Microsoft's Xbox when it comes to what Spencer sees as the next great expansion in gaming.

"Amazon and Google are focusing on how to get gaming to 7 billion people around the world," Spencer told Protocol. "Ultimately, that's the goal."

Though game consoles like Xbox One and PlayStation 4 sell in the tens or, in the case of PS4, hundreds of millions, the real potential market for gaming, Spencer believes, is in the billions of people on Earth who don't — or can't — own a game console.

"There are 2 billion people who play video games on the planet today. We're not gonna sell 2 billion consoles," Spencer told me in an interview in June 2018. "Many of those people don't own a television, many have never owned a PC. For many people on the planet, the phone is their compute device. It's really about reaching a customer wherever they are, on the devices that they have."

Do you want to play games on an Xbox? A PC? Your phone? Microsoft wants to reach you there — ideally across all three.

It's a similar approach to the Netflixes and Spotifys of the world — reach people on whatever device they have, wherever they are, with the media they want to consume.

To that end, Xbox has major initiatives across all three platforms: a new game console (Xbox Series X), a cloud gaming service (Project xCloud), and a Netflix-like gaming service (Game Pass).

"That remains core to what we're trying to do," Spencer told me in a more recent interview this past June. "To allow creators to reach the customers that they want, allow players to play the games that they want with the people they want to play with, anywhere they want. And it fits right into the opportunity ahead."

It's part of a broader effort at Microsoft to bring Xbox games to as many people as possible — even if those people don't buy a new Xbox console.

And it could mean the end of the console wars as we know them.

Source : BusinessInsiders


You guys seeing this?

Phil Spencer gona end the console wars

Do you see how beautiful is that ?

Xbox...Ps and Nintendo are friends now....

No more hostility...

The outcome of this statement ?

Xbox will release Bethesda game on Playstation..Nintendo...or any other system...

Maybe not on Google...or Amazon....because Phil Spencer sees them as the real enemy...

I mean...us xbox gamers should embrace this...

We support each other..

I ve been telling you....

CatLady....Catlady..Catlady....

Lady Berkanstel..Lady Bernkastel...Lady Bernkastel...

Gavon West....Gavon West...Gavin West....

Do the right thing...

Do the right thing....

Lets gather in circle...shake hands together...share the game...

Bethesda game on PS..

Bethesda game on Nintendo...

Bethesda game in PC...

Bethesda game everywhere...

Let us fight Amazon and Google together...

Xbox won....how awesome is that ?
Why arent you calling out Sony fanboys/girls?

How many warnings have you had from the mods...just curious?
 
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100 mln consoles sold actually touch 100-500mln lives as it is used by a family.

I think consoles touch a decent chunk of potential gaming market.

Most people own/ use multiple smartphones. So even though they sell more units, is actually used by less no of unique individuals.
 
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Stilton Disco

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To be fair, i do kind of see PlayStation being the Blockbuster Video of the game world. I can see them being left behind if they're not careful.
It's possible, but I'd say that's far more likely due to monopolosation than any of the fabled blue ocean 'future of gaming' we're currently being told about.

Not least of all because they're actually ahead of the curve on most of them.

Of the big three, they were first to streaming, first to subscriptions and first to VR, and all three have not really gone anywhere significant enough to warrant the massive investment MS, Amazon, Google and Apple are reportedly to openly making, in at least the first 2.

There are huge and insurmountable flaws in streaming that will always make it a worse experience to local hardware.

Subscriptions are fine, but the early low costs inevitably spiral up, alongside worse value for money, and, as we see in TV streaming, the brutal nature of its competition and need to keep people hooked has shown to leave far too many drip fed, inconclusive and often cut short products that go nowhere, all while the platforms themselves struggle to maintain or sometimes even make a profit.

And that's not even touching the clusterfuck of exclusivity deals streaming services have that mean you can never just subscribe to one of them.

Meanwhile Playstation makes and has great games. If they stop doing that, then they're in trouble, but until then, I see any proficy that gaming as we know and love it changing because of big companies pouring cash into the industry to try and change it for their benefit as being just another challenge to Sony (and Nintendo) that will most likely go nowhere, because there's a reason they're always coming out on top.

They (both) give people what they actually want, instead of trying to make people buy into what they want people to want.
 
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