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[iNvid02]

We had the opportunity to chat with Albert Penello, senior director of product planning at Microsoft this afternoon, who was kind enough to clarify a few topics for us regarding the recently-unveiled Xbox One. One thing we were quick to ask about was the integrated storage. 500GB sounds like a lot today -- but so did the 20GB unit in the original Xbox 360. The HDD there was, at least, replaceable. Can you do the same with its successor?

Sadly, no. Hard drives in the Xbox One are non-user-serviceable, but Penello confirmed that the USB 3.0 port is there for external storage, which can be used for everything the internal storage can be used for. That includes game installs and downloads. So, don't fret: adding storage will be just as easy as ever.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget

 

[maltrain]

External storage is the only good news I've heard until now.

I hope Sony do the same.

 

[Meelow]

Wii U and Xbox One do it, lets see if Sony does it.

 

[Dragon]

Positive XONE news? One reply!

 

[The_Monk]

While that is great news, the console + Kinect + external hard drive are 3 things that I wouldn't like to see on a Clean minimalistic setup.

But yes, this is good news!

 

[Dark Octave]

Positive XONE news? One reply!

Non-removable hdd is good news?

 

[entremet]

Good news!

Non_removable hdd is good news?

It supports external drives, which the 360 did not.

 

[neorej]

But only harddisks sold by Microsoft, I presume.

 

[squidyj]

So the external hard drive is going to sit next to the cable box and the console?

more customizable less addons would be great.

 

[flippedb]

Positive XONE news? One reply!

You're being ridiculous.

 

[Sutton Dagger]

Possibly the best 'feature' shown so far about the new Xbox, that isn't saying much.

 

[la flama blanca]

Positive XONE news? One reply!

This isn't positive news.

 

[Leflus]

Not sure if I like this solution. I prefer having it inside the box.

 

[Dragon]

Non_removable hdd is good news?

Non removable HDD with optional USB 3.0 port for plug n play is good news compared to what it was this gen for Microsoft peeps.

This isn't positive news.

Yes it is. It isn't what Sony did this gen but it's a step forward for Microsoft.

 

[iNvid02]

USB 3.0 should be fast enough, multi-terabyte drives are cheap and hopefully it not being proprietary means you can backup or clone the whole external drive in case of failure

if they start selling their own overpriced external storage they can go fuck themselves

 

[Koren]

But yes, this is good news!

That when the drive fail, you have to change the console? Good?

 

[statham]

Yes! 500gb was not going to cut it.

 

[DaBoss]

I like external storage so this is nice. The question is would you be able to use it on another XBOX ONE?

 

[Raide]

Non removable HDD with optional USB 3.0 port for plug n play is good news compared to what it was this gen for Microsoft peeps.



Yes it is. It isn't what Sony did this gen but it's a step forward for Microsoft.

Exactly. At least developers know every unit has a good chunk of storage to play with,

 

[Eusis]

Non-removable? I'd really prefer to have the system as one piece rather than dividing it up like I'd have to with the Wii, though at least onboard would be sufficient for quite awhile I hope. Though if the hard drive dies that takes the whole damn system, so I just keep getting further disinclined from the system... though I half suspect Sony will end up doing similarly, hopefully not though.

 

[SlowRevolution]

Not really a fan of external storage for consoles. Hope Sony sticks with what they're doing with the PS3 for the PS4.

 

[jabuseika]

I really don't want extra things on the side, why can't it be replaceable.
So are there any positive news coming out of this conference.

 

[UFRA]

Why is this good news?

One of my favorite features of PS3 this gen has been my ability to upgrade the HDD over the years several times to meet my needs.

Went from original 60GB > 320GB > 500GB. (now in a slim)

Last thing I want is to have an external HDD laying around that I have to plug in whenever I want to access stuff on it.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

Wonder if it would support an SSD...

 

[CaptainTiptop]

Wii U and Xbox One do it, lets see if Sony does it.

Either that or just let us swap out the HDD for any standard 2.5" HDD, as with the PS3.

Or both. That'd be great.

 

[Jucksalbe]

Sure hope this means any external HDD.

 

[Ryaaan14]

Is a disconnected Xbox One HDD considered external storage?

 

[OldAsUrSock]

Wii U and Xbox One do it, lets see if Sony does it.

PS3 already supports this.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

So does this mean they are only having one SKU?

 

[Unai]

I'm ok with this. External storage support makes things super easy.

 

[alr1ght]

How much will the proprietary USB 3.0 cable cost?

 

[conman]

What the what? The details about this thing get more inane with each passing minute. This isn't "easy." It's stupid.

As if this thing weren't big enough, now we've got a huge power brick and another huge brick of an external HDD--especially if we have to install everything we play.

This console just makes absolutely no sense to me. So many quirks, problems, and general awkwardness.

 

[Sylver]

but Penello confirmed that the USB 3.0 port is there for external storage,

NTFS compatible or just FAT?

 

[Mr Swine]

It's greAt till the HDD dies and you need to send it to MS...

 

[Unai]

PS3 already supports this.

No. You can't play PSN games from an external HD on PS3.

 

[kunonabi]

At this rate they really should have called it the Xbox One+

 

[Jake Tower]

How much will the proprietary USB 3.0 cable cost?

ONE hundred dollars

 

[Knoxcore]

More depressing news. At least I could attach an external drive.

 

[Darknight]

This is certainly not good news.

Why cant you the hdd be hot-swapable with other 2.5 hdds like a PS3 incase you want your internal storage space to be more than 500GB?

Why not have that plus external drive support for those not techy enough to remove and install a bigger drive?

It's greAt till the HDD dies and you need to send it to MS...

Oh god and this is a major concern too.

 

[dallow_bg]

Well, that's nice but I hate attached storage in my media shelving.
Was hoping I could just replace with a 1TB drive right off the bat whenever I got one.

I really hope PS4 will allow for user replaced drives like PS3.

It's greAt till the HDD dies and you need to send it to MS...

This too. Would annoy me to have 500GB internal that I couldn't use.

 

[scarybore]

This news confirmed my suspicions and it's not ideal, but being able to hook up a USB3 HHD removes my fears over it, glad Microsoft saw sense with that.

500GB sounds like a lot today -- but so did the 20GB unit in the original Xbox 360

Yeah, not really.

 

[PJV3]

XBOX2, I thought this was the only box you will ever need.

 

[quest]

It's greAt till the HDD dies and you need to send it to MS...

Exactly why this is dumb as hell. I have had horrible luck with hard drives over the years. Every brand I have had fail on me some time or another. Don't need a dead console that I can't fix when the hard drive eventually fails. I could careless about external storage not going to hook up another device on a console.

 

[Protome]

That sucks. Anecdotally I've had far more experiences of USB HDDs dying than internal ones. Needing to rely on them for my system to expand the memory sounds awful.

 

[KarmaCow]

Wonder if it would support an SSD...

The bottleneck for both a SSD or a standard HDD would still be the USB 3.0

 

[Des0lar]

Positive XONE news? One reply!

dat persecution complex

 

[malfcn]

Do they have a transfer solution in place for revisions?

What is the 360 external cap at? I don't want to have to buy a HDD or jump through hoops if I buy a hardware upgrade. Or if the thing fails.

 

[Oyashrio-Sama]

Its sad when the only good news is coupled with the news that the internal hard drive cannot be removed. :/

 

[Linkified]

If you can use an external hard drive it's kinda a non issue. The bigger 'eh!' is that MS made a huge hunk of change from their HDD solution this gen. This whole console seems weird.

 

[iNvid02]

do we know if the external drives will have to be proprietary or not?

this is like the last small piece of good news remaining about the xbox one, i bet they can bash its head in with a rock too