Triggers are about the only issue with larger hands, really.
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Xbox One Tour - Highly disappointed in system and graphics
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Triggers are about the only issue with larger hands, really.
Metalingus5150
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Was anyone planning on using Kinect with Battlefield 4?
You're in luck. There's an entire other thread dedicated to the tour full of impressions.
As for people being mad that he said the games don't look next gen enough. The same thing is being said about the PS4 in the PS4 Sony store impressions thread. Mainly referencing FIFA. If you're expecting a jump as noticeable between non-HD to HD, you're going to be let down.
pretty much
MDSLKTR
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wow he got him good
BronsonLee
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Ugh. I don't understand that logic. When I try the PS4 I'm sure it'll be back and forth with me too, same with Xbox One. It's not a freaking war.
At the Philly event this and KI had the most kiosks. KI was bumping, Ryse was too, but it eventually waned off. No clue why they didn't have a campaign demo.
GoofsterStud
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I didn't say I dislike the controller only that I would prefer to use the Xbox 360 controller given a choice.
It's still to early to conclude on which controller is better. Haven't had enough time with both to make a decision. Just disappointing in the changes. I don't know how it could feel similar the changes are immediately noticeable. I guess the shape and what not is close, but it's definitely a different controller.
To be honest, this whole event has put a bit of a damper on my next gen graphics expectations. I'm still excited for the PS4 (and hopefully the better graphics chip in that console will be put to good use), but the leap to PC is certainly going to remain an enormous one for both Sony and MS.
As in "not at all, because he responded with something that made no sense in context of my original writing"?
The lean is useful, was just annoying to get right on the 360 as its context sensitive, the Kinect onj X1 may make it easier.
ChosenPredator
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man its kind of hard to trust people here at the moment because you dont knowif theyre going in hating it or loving it..so the opinion will just be purely bias ...so confusing...wish i could try both of them for myself lol
TheJollyCorner
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Since I'm not a PC gamer, I'm very excited to be blown away by these next-gen systems.
Neuromancer
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So a lot of people said, but with that title, who would know that?
Anyway if the mods want to lock it or merge this thread thats their call, in the meanwhile I'll just hang out and enjoy the reactions.
I imagine maybe the TV's and settings and things at these events are probably not the best, that could have an effect on the image quality. But this isn't the first time I've heard complaints about the controller.
The width of the grips is where half of my problems come from when it comes to just general comfortability.
I agree the triggers would be the other half.
I'm impressed by the latest build we've seen of Ryse. Looks spectacular graphically...and it's not 1080p...which, well...is even more impressive.
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Where are the pics OP? There's no way in a million years I go to any event EVER...especially an early reveal...and not take pics.
GoofsterStud
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I know this wasn't for me...but I don't. The launch titles for either system don't impress me.
I think I'm spoiled with current high end PC gaming.
BronsonLee
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Ehhh... Let's not go crazy here. That is what they're showing on the Tour. It varies depending on the event, since the Philly one had all Microsoft published titles (Crimson Dragon, Lococycle, Zoo Tycoon, etc).
I loled at this for some reason. I however do believe he attended this event, just think his opinions are skewed by his love for all things Playstation.
Silly.Mikey
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Pretty much. Hell im a hardcore Halo fan and im positive i could still find positives to say about the new Killzone.
This on the other hand was just obvious and expected.
Three laughing politicians from Ryse.
This is actually a very good point. Even in this gen if a TV isn't calibrated or tuned right games can look pretty gnarly in a lot of ways.
sheesh so he wasn't impressed. Big deal...do we really need pages of people trying to dismiss it 'because' he like the ps4 more. I mean in this very thread there were few other posters who said the same
How about a more realistic take on the OPs comments. The demo units had outdated demo versions?
Complaints about the controller are nothing new so not sure why some people act as if this is a new thing. Some love it..some don't.
How about a more realistic take on the OPs comments. The demo units had outdated demo versions?
Complaints about the controller are nothing new so not sure why some people act as if this is a new thing. Some love it..some don't.
3rdamention
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Did the triggers/bumpers feel mushy or really easy to push with no real resistance? That's the only consistent complaint I have heard with the controller.
These were present as well. The full list (as I remember them):
Battlefield 4
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
FIFA 14
Forza 5
Just Dance 2014
Killer Instinct (with gamepads as well as fight sticks)
LocoCycle
Ryse
Zoo Tycon
Kinect Sports: Rivals
Peggle 2
Max: The Curse of Brotherhood
I can't wait to actually have an Xbox One and form opinions of my own. The amount of people claiming things (good and bad) about the new Xbox and then having people make counter-claims about the poster's credibility is driving me out of my mind. All I can say is that I'm looking forward to the new consoles and hope that both companies do positive things to move the industry forward. Wish I could go to one of these events -_-
SEGAvangelist
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I think a lot of us here will feel this way. The exclusives will be nice, but PC gamers won't be as impressed with the graphics of the launch titles. Still, there's nothing like turning on a console and having everything just work.
Albert Penello
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No intent to diminish the perspective or the opinions of the OP.
Couple things worth noting.
First, the game demos on the tour are the same ones weve shown at E3, Gamescom, and PAX. So both Forza and Ryse look good, but not the same as final. Both games look better now (as I would expect would be the case for Sony as well), so dont judge the tour demos too harshly relative to the final games. The Ryse video released today I think demonstrates that for those who have compared the E3 trailers with the newest.
Second, the environment that these games run in is not the same environment used for building the dash. So for those seeing the slow/janky dash UI from the tour, thats nothing like what the real code looks like. These tour boxes are not getting Beta drops, so the UI isnt even correct, let alone performing well. So dont use that as any comparison to the real UI. Again, the video released earlier in the week shows the updated code.
Controller should be close to final. So YMMV on how you like it. Ive worked on every version of every Xbox controller, and I like this one the best by a mile.
Lastly Sonys in exactly the same position, so Im not suggesting they shouldnt get the benefit of the doubt either. When you have stuff that works, you use it even if its not perfect. Right now, everyone is crunching.
Couple things worth noting.
First, the game demos on the tour are the same ones weve shown at E3, Gamescom, and PAX. So both Forza and Ryse look good, but not the same as final. Both games look better now (as I would expect would be the case for Sony as well), so dont judge the tour demos too harshly relative to the final games. The Ryse video released today I think demonstrates that for those who have compared the E3 trailers with the newest.
Second, the environment that these games run in is not the same environment used for building the dash. So for those seeing the slow/janky dash UI from the tour, thats nothing like what the real code looks like. These tour boxes are not getting Beta drops, so the UI isnt even correct, let alone performing well. So dont use that as any comparison to the real UI. Again, the video released earlier in the week shows the updated code.
Controller should be close to final. So YMMV on how you like it. Ive worked on every version of every Xbox controller, and I like this one the best by a mile.
Lastly Sonys in exactly the same position, so Im not suggesting they shouldnt get the benefit of the doubt either. When you have stuff that works, you use it even if its not perfect. Right now, everyone is crunching.
Neither of them feel mushy.Triggers don't have the tension of the 360's, but they're not mushy. L1,R1 are buttons. They click. No mush.
ACH1LL3US
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Do you have a Gaming PC? What are you comparing your expectations to?
What PS4 games are you excited about at launch? I don't feel there is going to be a huge difference graphically at launch with either system.
Silly.Mikey
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I think that a lot of that will ultimately have to do with simply getting used to a new controller design after 7+ years. Gamers and change generally doesn't bring out positives.
Reallink
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Xbone would be a downgrade then.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Not to discredit OP, like not saying what you have said isnt how you feel, but based off this board and your history its all pretty invaluable. Sorry.
Albert Penello
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If that's true, then I apologize. That's not the way I saw it based on the context of the quotes you were responding to.
If you meant in the way you clarified, then I'm sorry for responding harshly.
GrizzleBoy
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I guess.
I put my TV in "game mode" in the middle of a GTA V session (doing so resets all settings to default) and it immediately made me want to kick the screen. Everything immediately turned dull/harsh looking.
Sharpness/brightness/colour saturation settings can make a big difference
So Forza wasn't running in 1080p at the demo you attended?
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SEGAvangelist
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Al is always watching us.
I think it will be fine after a bit of adjustment, just seems like a step back from what we have right now especially in terms of ergonomics.
It's more of a strange tension with the bumpers, this is really hard to explain. Together with their relatively bizarre shape it made for an awkward feeling.
The triggers feel notably different from the 360 gamepad (as well as DualShock 3), but all in all neither worse nor better.
Nah, it's a way to say that his opinion about both next gen consoles might be extremely biased in any way, so it's not worth to take into account.
ACH1LL3US
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I have a High end pc too for gaming and I am still excited for both systems. The standard assets in the games are much better then last gen ( character models, textures, lighting). Most pc games we play are stuck with current gen assets with higher framerates , resolution, AA and better textures. The character models etc are not a huge jump up as they using the same stuff.
I think once we see some pc games using the updated assets from next gen then we can compare better I suppose.
To be fair, the leap was smaller this time. In the past you really needed a supreme gaming PC to equal the quality of the consoles on release day. Now we're at a point where an above average gaming machine already matches the consoles on release day. A year from now the consoles will be bested by average gaming rigs.
It's not going to take as long this time for a mainstream PC gamer to exceed console quality graphics. Still looking forward to getting a PS4, but realistically, PC gaming graphics will destroy it soon enough.
intheinbetween
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*this*
REMEMBER CITADEL
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Shocking, indeed.
Silly.Mikey
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Still, its their bus isn't it? They should have it prepared properly. Youre going to show off games and they cant set up TV colors? Id hire new people.
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