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Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017

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So some people aren't going to buy a Scorpio because Scalebound was cancelled? OK, well I suppose that's a legit reason if Scalebound was the only game that interested you. Personally, I had almost no interest in SB and it certainly has absolutely no bearing on whether I would buy a Scorpio or not.

I've been gaming on Xbox since the 360. I'm happy with the games & online service that the Xbox ecosystem provides and all my gaming friends are there. It's for these reasons that I bought an XB1 at launch (when it wasn't the most popular thing to do) and they're the same reasons I'll buy a Scorpio.

I dig Forza, Halo, and Gears, but TBH, I typically spend a lot more time playing 3rd party titles on my Xbox and I don't expect that to change when I'm gaming on Scorpio. I agree with those who say Xbox needs to do better with 1st party games and they need some new IPs. However, I feel that Phil Spencer has been doing a great job and I'm confident that he's got a plan.

So late in 2017 I'll be buying a Scorpio and I'll likely spend the majority of my time playing 3rd party titles. I'll be in my happy place :) with my friends on Xbox Live. The extra power of Scorpio promised by Phil & the team at Xbox, will just be an added bonus.
 
A symbol, lol? I agree that they need more variety, but the game was obviously a fucking mess and was never going to be what we wanted it to be. Which is the reason for the fuckery and pulling the plug and I don't blame them.

Look, I was was extremely excited for Scalebound and love Platinum games, but it is not Microsoft's fault that they could not deliver by now. Platinum are not some group of spotless gods who can do no wrong. The game was in development hell and Microsoft rightly dropped it.

In that case they shoud've pulled the plug for a vast majority of their late productions (that made out).
 
So some people aren't going to buy a Scorpio because Scalebound was cancelled? OK, well I suppose that's a legit reason if Scalebound was the only game that interested you. Personally, I had almost no interest in SB and it certainly has absolutely no bearing on whether I would buy a Scorpio or not.

I've been gaming on Xbox since the 360. I'm happy with the games & online service that the Xbox ecosystem provides and all my gaming friends are there. It's for these reasons that I bought an XB1 at launch (when it wasn't the most popular thing to do) and they're the same reasons I'll buy a Scorpio.

I dig Forza, Halo, and Gears, but TBH, I typically spend a lot more time playing 3rd party titles on my Xbox and I don't expect that to change when I'm gaming on Scorpio. I agree with those who say Xbox needs to do better with 1st party games and they need some new IPs. However, I feel that Phil Spencer has been doing a great job and I'm confident that he's got a plan.

So late in 2017 I'll be buying a Scorpio and I'll likely spend the majority of my time playing 3rd party titles. I'll be in my happy place :) with my friends on Xbox Live. The extra power of Scorpio promised by Phil & the team at Xbox, will just be an added bonus.

Some probably will sure, if that's their reason that's it. I myself am disappointed by the news but still am interested in scorpio. Prior I was day one ready, now gonna wait and see...still excited for it though.
 
In that case they shoud've pulled the plug for a vast majority of their late productions (that made out).

I don't recall a bunch of broken games that should have been cancelled. Stuff like Sunset Overdrive and even Ryse are showpieces in their own right. Scalebound was obviously beyond the point of saving and not worth further funding. The folks behind the scenes I'm sure could see this and that is why it was cancelled. The development was in disarray and the game was obviously not coming along, so it was not worth the risk to fund it further. Simple.
 
Some probably will sure, if that's their reason that's it. I myself am disappointed by the news but still am interested in scorpio. Prior I was day one ready, now gonna wait and see...still excited for it though.

Yes, if that's what seals the deal for them, it's totally cool. For me it's just more than the games. It's the friendships (mostly) I've developed in the Xbox world that keeps me gaming on Xbox.
 
In that case they shoud've pulled the plug for a vast majority of their late productions (that made out).

Mostly because it's E3 2014, they need to announce something make people happy, even it's in very early stage.
If we look back of E3 2015/2016 announced games, they're mostly doing fine(2015: SoT beta coming soon, BC released, Gigantic released, Recore released, Gears 4 released, Forza 6 released, 3rd party games announced there are released, 2016: Halo Wars 2 coming next month, Forza Horizon 3 released, XPA started, Inside released, We Happy Few in early access currently, Gwent beta released, DR4 released, SoD 2 coming this year).

But E3 2014 i would say they're anxious to announce "something", and it seems too anxious so they didn't think before announce their projects.
 
What Scalebound's loss to me means a loss of personality. Scalebound was an initiative to show that the 360 era can still live within the Xbox community. This was the first step to entice Japanese developers to create more for the xbox, and more importantly the new Xbox Scorpio and forward.

With this gone, my attraction to the next system dies a little bit. There is almost no possible way to announce a brand new game at e3 2017 and have it release in time for the Scorpio. Especially to put any sense of ease on the flames that developing for MS is hell on top of the hell you already face with your own challenges as a developer/studio.

They don't even have marketing rights for a vast majority of 3rd party games. What will they show to reference the quality of Scorpio's power? Fake ass In-Engine demos for vaporware? Can't fool us forever.

This cancellation is more than just a GAME. It was an idea, a personality, a hope for a bigger list of games for the xbox's we play.

anywho ... maybe after a couple weeks and we finally get some detail on scorpio's hardware, ill be happier lol

Umm, you are way overstating much of what you're saying here. This is pretty much exaggerated nonsense, you do know that? Vast Majority of 3rd party games is you say. To put it plainly, that's a nonsense statement which can't be backed up. Because Sony has some key marketing deals with some major titles doesn't mean that there won't be other major third party releases that Microsoft can't show off running on scorpio. When has Microsoft ever, and I mean ever, failed to show off a major third party title at their E3 press event?

And your statement about it not being possible to announce a brand new game at E3 2017 and have it release on time for scorpio is also factually not true. A game designed for Xbox One will automatically work for Scorpio. All some devs will do is just enhance the graphics settings, with possibly some increased assets for the Scorpio version, but if a game is making it out for Xbox One, it will almost assuredly make it out for Scorpio at the same exact time. In fact, the discs will likely be shared. There won't be a special Scorpio disc. The Scorpio game will be the Xbox One game. The two systems won't be exactly identical, but making sure it is easy to make games for Xbox One and then easily transfer that work over and make it work on Scorpio is going to be one of Microsoft's highest priorities. In fact, they already have tools in place to help make Xbox One development to PC and vice versa an easier transition. Already games designed a specific way on Xbox One will automatically take advantage of Scorpio's increased capability from day one. Gears of War 4 is one example, Halo 5 is another. So you really aren't too accurate in what you are saying. There will be plenty that Microsoft has to show off Scorpio's power. They can even use existing major releases with boosted framerate and graphics settings, just to demonstrate the boost in power.

What makes you think Microsoft wouldn't pull out one of the craziest looking levels in Halo 5, and showcase it running at 4K 60FPS with way better AA and other effects going in order to show off Scorpio's power. There will be no need for faked demos lol.
 
I don't recall a bunch of broken games that should have been cancelled. Stuff like Sunset Overdrive and even Ryse are showpieces in their own right. Scalebound was obviously beyond the point of saving and not worth further funding. The folks behind the scenes I'm sure could see this and that is why it was cancelled. The development was in disarray and the game was obviously not coming along, so it was not worth the risk to fund it further. Simple.

Recore, Quantum Break, Crimson Dragon, Lococycle...

And the last previews we got from Gamescom 2016 were enthusiast about the game. Anyways bad or not the game would've been interesting to play.
 
Yes, if that's what seals the deal for them, it's totally cool. For me it's just more than the games. It's the friendships (mostly) I've developed in the Xbox world that keeps me gaming on Xbox.

Ain't nothing wrong with that. I don't have any anger towards the brand, I think it a bit childish. If they can deliver with scorpio, they will do fine. Lets wait and see what E3 brings, new hardware reveal should come with new software reveal, I'm sure they know they have a lot riding on it.

Also off-topic, I hope they show off better game segments in whatever they plan on revealing...their presentation skills need some work. Gotta get those hype moments in to build that hype.
 
So some people aren't going to buy a Scorpio because Scalebound was cancelled? OK, well I suppose that's a legit reason if Scalebound was the only game that interested you. Personally, I had almost no interest in SB and it certainly has absolutely no bearing on whether I would buy a Scorpio or not.

I've been gaming on Xbox since the 360. I'm happy with the games & online service that the Xbox ecosystem provides and all my gaming friends are there. It's for these reasons that I bought an XB1 at launch (when it wasn't the most popular thing to do) and they're the same reasons I'll buy a Scorpio.

I dig Forza, Halo, and Gears, but TBH, I typically spend a lot more time playing 3rd party titles on my Xbox and I don't expect that to change when I'm gaming on Scorpio. I agree with those who say Xbox needs to do better with 1st party games and they need some new IPs. However, I feel that Phil Spencer has been doing a great job and I'm confident that he's got a plan.

So late in 2017 I'll be buying a Scorpio and I'll likely spend the majority of my time playing 3rd party titles. I'll be in my happy place :) with my friends on Xbox Live. The extra power of Scorpio promised by Phil & the team at Xbox, will just be an added bonus.

It's more than just about Scalebound though. It's about MS not willing to take risks with new IPs anymore. what's the point of Scorpio if all we get is Halo, Gears and Halo. We aren't getting sequels to Sunset, QB, Alan Wake, Recore is doubtful.

I love me some Halo and Forza but at a certain point you get burned out on those games. Those games will not be radically different, and with the recent news of the cancelled Halo mega blocks game, it looks like they aren't even willing to take risks with their biggest IPs.

If all you're giving us is the same old shit and not investing in new and interesting titles, why should I invest in this console? This issue has been lingering for a while, it's bigger than just Scalebound.

People keep saying oh when did everyone care so much about Scalebound....that's not the point.
 
Even though we know little about the system I was dead set on buying it. But after the Scalebound news the hype has died down for me. I'm not really up for playing more Halo and Gears of War as sad as that seems. If Rare have some solid games in the pipeline then I'll pick one up. Will wait and see when more details are announced.
 
It's more than just about Scalebound though. It's about MS not willing to take risks with new IPs anymore. what's the point of Scorpio if all we get is Halo, Gears and Halo. We aren't getting sequels to Sunset, QB, Alan Wake, Recore is doubtful.

I love me some Halo and Forza but at a certain point you get burned out on those games. Those games will not be radically different, and with the recent news of the cancelled Halo mega blocks game, it looks like they aren't even willing to take risks with their biggest IPs.

If all you're giving us is the same old shit and not investing in new and interesting titles, why should I invest in this console? This issue has been lingering for a while, it's bigger than just Scalebound.

People keep saying oh when did everyone care so much about Scalebound....that's not the point.

This makes no sense because MS did takethe isk on Scalebound, it just didn't pan out. They also tried those other new IPs you mentioned
 
It's more than just about Scalebound though. It's about MS not willing to take risks with new IPs anymore. what's the point of Scorpio if all we get is Halo, Gears and Halo. We aren't getting sequels to Sunset, QB, Alan Wake, Recore is doubtful.

I love me some Halo and Forza but at a certain point you get burned out on those games. Those games will not be radically different, and with the recent news of the cancelled Halo mega blocks game, it looks like they aren't even willing to take risks with their biggest IPs.

If all you're giving us is the same old shit and not investing in new and interesting titles, why should I invest in this console? This issue has been lingering for a while, it's bigger than just Scalebound.

People keep saying oh when did everyone care so much about Scalebound....that's not the point.

It's really because of that, or this risk become something PG and MS cannot handle it anymore? even in business way, no companies want to cancelled something that they already throw a lot money to it, Scalebound already in development for 4+ years, if it's not become something PG and MS can't go back anymore, i seriously doubt they would stop it so easy, it's not a game that just begin for development at few months ago.

It's more like some of you guys overestimated Scalebound.
 
Do people really care that much about scalebound? Wasn't a title I was particularly interested in and has no bearing on any future Scorpio purchase.

I don't understand all the doom and gloom, Scorpio (if its as powerful as MS are boasting) "should" have the best version of all the 3rd party titles as well as Forza, Gears, Halo as well as a few new IP's.

If you don't enjoy MS exclusives then I can see the Scorpio is less appealing, but it works both ways, I'm sure many people like myself aren't that excited about PS exclusives either and have decided to skip the Pro and wait and see how the Scorpio turns out.
 

Commercials - trailers - announcements of these games from Sony. like below quote- i guess it's not the VAST majority but maybe i should have said the POPULAR MAJORITY of 3rd party games. Or do you have a source where COD/Destiny2/RDR2/Battlefont/ME:A will partner with xbox this year?

They dont have it for RDR2, Destiny 2, COD and Battlefront. That we can know offcourse.

Umm, you are way overstating much of what you're saying here. This is pretty much exaggerated nonsense, you do know that? ...-snip-

What makes you think Microsoft wouldn't pull out one of the craziest looking levels in Halo 5, and showcase it running at 4K 60FPS with way better AA and other effects going in order to show off Scorpio's power. There will be no need for faked demos lol.

Relax. I'm not proclaiming doom and gloom. I am stating my perspective on the situation as of RIGHT NOW. looking at previous events, MS has been battling up-hill to prove to gamers they are working for gamers. They have done quite a good number of things, but lets not list that stuff out. AND i know the scoropio isn't exclusive when it comes to games.

I am simply talking about a Marketing Standpoint. When commercials air, when gaming sties post trailers, when news outlets talk about games people will see Sony. and as i mentioned above, i should have said the POPULAR 3rd party games marketing rights. So that means majority to me if they have COD/Destiny2 and then they also have RDR2 and Battlefront. those along are the MAJOR players for the holiday. Those sell consoles

Look at the last two years with MS and their announcements. Look at it realisticly and say to us in a straight face that come e3 2017 there will be a brand new game ready for Holiday Launch that will utilize the Scorpio.

You mention Halo 5, yet i doubt you even play. I play every day and i wouldn't give two shits if they showed me a CAMPAIGN level in full 1080p 60fps. No-one would lose their shit over this. We don't even have any type of confirmation that older games will be or can be patched to 'Scorpio' levels - we need more time and info to trickle to us. Only thing they have mentioned is the automatic benefit of Games that have Scaling Resolutions to output at full frame buffer.

They have faked demos before - every publisher has done this. Couple Examples: Halo 2, Bioshock: Infinite and others could list the bullshots/bulltrailers released at e3 and when the final game came out it was different. ahem - WD.
 
Recore, Quantum Break, Crimson Dragon, Lococycle...

And the last previews we got from Gamescom 2016 were enthusiast about the game. Anyways bad or not the game would've been interesting to play.

Quantum Break was a broken mess? News to me. I mean, I did not care for it all that much, but the game itself is beyond sound. And last I checked, all of the big 3 release games that have lukewarm to bad receptions. Hardly comparable to games that are in development hell, as Scalebound obviously was.
 
Quantum Break was a broken mess? News to me. I mean, I did not care for it all that much, but the game itself is beyond sound. And last I checked, all of the big 3 release games that have lukewarm to bad receptions. Hardly comparable to games that are in development hell, as Scalebound obviously was.

On PC it wasnt great. Ran great and looked great on console tho.
 
Tbh, with Scalebound dead, a delay of the console does make a lot of sense. Their launch lineup is pretty thin at this point, and I would be willing to bet that Scorpio support is adding its fair share of wrinkles to their internal dev process, so any hypothetical replacement they have in the works is gonna take more time.

They're already a year after the PS4 pro, what's another 6 months?

Not to say they'll actually so that, mind.
 
Tbh, with Scalebound dead, a delay of the console does make a lot of sense. Their launch lineup is pretty thin at this point, and I would be willing to bet that Scorpio support is adding its fair share of wrinkles to their internal dev process, so any hypothetical replacement they have in the works is gonna take more time.

They're already a year after the PS4 pro, what's another 6 months?

Not to say they'll actually so that, mind.

At that point why not just skip the "everything will work" motto and just make exclusive games for it. Delaying it at this point would be stupid. Might as well just release a "true" next gen at that point.
 
Tbh, with Scalebound dead, a delay of the console does make a lot of sense. Their launch lineup is pretty thin at this point, and I would be willing to bet that Scorpio support is adding its fair share of wrinkles to their internal dev process, so any hypothetical replacement they have in the works is gonna take more time.

They're already a year after the PS4 pro, what's another 6 months?

Not to say they'll actually so that, mind.

What "launch line up"? Scorpio also can play every Xbox One games.
Seriously if we talk about "launch line up" did PS4 Pro had great "launch line up" at all?
 
At that point why not just skip the "everything will work" motto and just make exclusive games for it. Delaying it at this point would be stupid. Might as well just release a "true" next gen at that point.
The thing is nearly a year out... not like a delay now would be some last second bait-and-switch.

As for exclusive titles, idk. I wouldn't say no, but not only would that piss off a lot of people who bought the S, the diverse hardware requirements are something they're going to have to deal with anyway since their lineup is also going to be on PC. It really does feel more like a timing thing.
 
At that point why not just skip the "everything will work" motto and just make exclusive games for it. Delaying it at this point would be stupid. Might as well just release a "true" next gen at that point.

They could do that, were it not that they basically have nothing exclusive to show for it in 2017. You can't will games into existence.
 
The thing is nearly a year out... not like a delay now would be some last second bait-and-switch.

As for exclusive titles, idk. I wouldn't say no, but not only would that piss off a lot of people who bought the S, the diverse hardware requirements are something they're going to have to deal with anyway since their lineup is also going to be on PC. It really does feel more like a timing thing.

I think next holiday is the perfect time for it. The sooner the better. If they wait longer, its just that much less time to take advantage of "being the most powerful" console ever. You know sony is planning a ps5 within 2-3 years. Delaying it will gain them zero benefits.

They could do that, were it not that they basically have nothing exclusive to show for it in 2017. You can't will games into existence.

Thats what im saying, if theyre going to delay it, just stick with xbox one S and make Scorpio a true next gen.
 
they aren't going to delay it guys don't be crazy.

they'll rely on 3rd party partnerships to show off the best versions of certain multiplats with the odd first party game here and there (forza I guess?)

the only thing mentioned in this thread thats getting delayed is RDR2
 
they aren't going to delay it guys don't be crazy.

they'll rely on 3rd party partnerships to show off the best versions of certain multiplats with the odd first party game here and there (forza I guess?)

the only thing mentioned in this thread thats getting delayed is RDR2

One of the insiders said the possibility of a Scorpio delay has come up.
 
they aren't going to delay it guys don't be crazy.

they'll rely on 3rd party partnerships to show off the best versions of certain multiplats with the odd first party game here and there (forza I guess?)

the only thing mentioned in this thread thats getting delayed is RDR2

Nooo pleeease.
 
What "launch line up"? Scorpio also can play every Xbox One games.
Seriously if we talk about "launch line up" did PS4 Pro had great "launch line up" at all?
Fuck if not know I don't follow PlayStation stuff lol. Strictly Xbox and PC.

By launch line up I just meant a suite of titles that can show off the new hardware to the fullest extent, thus driving home the need for the upgrade. You're right, though, that the requirements are lower because of the existing library. Maybe I'm just fretting for no reason.

Damn, one day after the Scalebound fiasco and they haven't cancelled Scorpio?
Lol
 
Fuck if not know I don't follow PlayStation stuff lol. Strictly Xbox and PC.

By launch line up I just meant a suite of titles that can show off the new hardware to the fullest extent, thus driving home the need for the upgrade. You're right, though, that the requirements are lower because of the existing library. Maybe I'm just fretting for no reason.

You can check PS4 Pro launch date and see are there any games "that can show off the new hardware to the fullest extent" release it with PS4 Pro then.
 
Dont get why people want PGR. We have enough Forza games on the horizon.

Forza racing is a little too simmy. Forza horizon is a little too slippy slidy (as much as I love it). PGR with the focus on tight city racing and the IMO perfect arcadey handling model still has never been matched


Edit : I'd take a 6-9 month delay if it meant zen and a proper next gen console. Like a repeat of the 360 being willing to short cut the generation and would be difficult for Sony to react to for a couple of years
 
they aren't going to delay it guys don't be crazy.

they'll rely on 3rd party partnerships to show off the best versions of certain multiplats with the odd first party game here and there (forza I guess?)

the only thing mentioned in this thread thats getting delayed is RDR2

Indeed. They don't need a launch lineup. The entire premise of the system is existing games at 4k.
 
Indeed. They don't need a launch lineup. The entire premise of the system is existing games at 4k.
Id say 4K but also higher frame rate options. For example I don't mind if they have an option for Forza Horizon 3 at 30fps/4K, but I'd also like to see an option of 60fps/1080p( not at ultra settings of course). Or gears campaign with the same options
 
Id say 4K but also higher frame rate options. For example I don't mind if they have an option for Forza Horizon 3 at 30fps/4K, but I'd also like to see an option of 60fps/1080p( not at ultra settings of course). Or gears campaign with the same options
yes I am sure certain games will have those kinds of options but it will be up to the developer to implement those things. Just like the Pro
 
Id say 4K but also higher frame rate options. For example I don't mind if they have an option for Forza Horizon 3 at 30fps/4K, but I'd also like to see an option of 60fps/1080p( not at ultra settings of course). Or gears campaign with the same options
This is what I'm most excited about with Scorpio. If I can play all of my games at 1080/60 I'd be very happy.
 
When was it posted and where?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227971104&postcount=4601

Actually, I have heard from my friends at MS that the whole gaming division is under heavy scrutiny. I really wouldn't be surprised to see them drastically cut, and even more I highly expect the "Scorpio" to be delayed - that is a piece of information I have been keeping to myself to keep from being labeled a console warrior... We know there will be a new Forza this year, but everything else is up in the air...

I'd expect some kind of Minecraft clone to "diversify" the third-party lineup if Scorpio actually releases this year.

Meanwhile, MS is sitting on all of Rare's properties which we may never see again. If it won't be a major "success", the game will never see release. So probably never see another Banjo, or Conker, or any number of titles. Instead, they have Rare working on a multiplayer (has to be), pirate simulator. Pray Sea of Thieves is a success, or Rare will be next studio canned.
 
Are people actually trying to predict shit when Microsoft has yet to show Scorpio or any games this year? We are like 10 days into 2017 and they have not had a conference or E3.

I'll wait and judge till we actually know what Scorpio is and what games they have in the pipeline. If Scorpio is underwhelming and Microsoft hasn't showed any new games AFTER E3 or whatever conference they choose to show it then i will give them shit.

But actually predicting anything before they have shown it seems way too premature.

Someone screaming "they have no games" seems like an idiot when they are yet to have a conference.
 
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