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[DeadOblivion78]

“Xbox Series S was designed to be the most affordable next generation console and play next generation games at 1440P at 60fps. To deliver the highest quality backwards compatible experience consistent with the developer’s original intent, the Xbox Series S runs the Xbox One S version of backward compatible games while applying improved texture filtering, higher and more consistent frame rates, faster load times and Auto HDR.”

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[Max_Po]

 

[longdi]

No big deal for the target audience of XSS, i am almost certain

We need to stop viewing things through our rose tinted GAF eyes

 

[Agnostic2020]

Xss deal gets worse by the minute it seems.damn

Imagine playing many x1 games in 900p in 2020

 

[NickFire]

 

[Rolla]

 

[MasterCornholio]

They could have at least made the hardware capable of Xbox One X enchantments. But I'm guessing the cost got in the way.

 

[GamerEDM]

gamespew?

 

[jshackles]

Sad but not unexpected.

 

[Dnice1]

Good they are communicating that to folks. As they said it was designed for affordability at 1440p.

 

[xellos2099alpha]

So technically xbox one x is still stroger than series S even with weaker cpu?

 

[Andodalf]

Makes sense, Those games would be addressing more ram than is available.

 

[Fake]

Mild shock.

 

[Dr Bass]

Uhhh this makes perfect sense. Not sure why anyone would say this is a problem.

 

[93xfan]

Wonder if it will do upscaling

 

[BlueXImpulse]

I'm not shocked because we had 5 developers come out recently who made it clear the Series S would be a problem console.

 

[Punished Miku]

Sounds like it will still be better than the S but not what the X does. Its a little confusing how its worded. Mentions better frame rates and hdr at the end. Maybe they just mean its not 4k? Kind of hard to tell.

 

[Entroyp]

You get what you pay for I guess.

 

[MilkyJoe]

So technically xbox one x is still stroger than series S even with weaker cpu?

Who wants to get this?

 

[Jon Neu]

Uhhh this makes perfect sense. Not sure why anyone would say this is a problem.

The Series S has made Sony fanboys angry for some reason.

 

[recursive]

Good they are communicating that to folks. As they said it was designed for affordability at 1440p.

Yea but I wouldnt be surprised if quite a few people don't even know what 1440p is. It is a reasonable target just probably not well known by your average consumer.

 

[Chun Swae]

Crap console made for a crap reason just to win the "iTs cHeAper" war.

 

[Punished Miku]

Who wants to get this?

I'm considering it for game pass. BC is still pretty great on Xbox.

 

[Batiman]

I really don’t think the target audience cares TBH. This is a casual fifa, COD, fortnite gamepass machine.

 

[MilkyJoe]

did it cross anyone's mind that they don't want to fuck around making changes to native 4k games, before the concern trolling?

 

[HUELEN10]

I knew it, I called it!

This is the main reason I’m getting Series X.

 

[Schmick]

I really don’t think the target audience cares TBH. This is a casual fifa, COD, fortnite gamepass machine.

Any yet Gaf ignores that logic

 

[Grinchy]

I really don’t think the target audience cares TBH. This is a casual fifa, COD, fortnite gamepass machine.

That will also be the starting point for all 3rd party development for the whole generation...

 

[AgentP]

They could have at least made the hardware capable of Xbox One X enchantments. But I'm guessing the cost got in the way.

"There is a product for that, it's called the Xbox Series X".

 

[Birdo]

So it enhances everthing except resolution?

*Shrug*

 

[SaturnSaturn]

Xss deal gets worse by the minute it seems.damn

Imagine playing many x1 games in 900p in 2020

Soooo... how is this any different from ps5 backwards compatability? it actually improves fps and adds hdr, what does sony do?

 

[Punished Miku]

"There is a product for that, it's called the Xbox Series X".

Better than the Sony solution. "It's called a launch PS3."

 

[Max_Po]

That will also be the starting point for all 3rd party development for the whole generation...

fuck no.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

That's pretty sad that it can't match BC performance on a last gen console.

 

[jshackles]

I really don’t think the target audience cares TBH. This is a casual fifa, COD, fortnite gamepass machine.

Exactly. The Wii sold gangbusters even though the Xbox 360 could play high definition games and came out a full year ahead of it. The Switch came out six months after the PS4 Pro and could only do 1080p while the Pro could render in 4K.

Obviously, better resolution doesn't equal higher sales. It all comes down to value.

 

[JimboJones]

Sounds like it will still be better than the S but not what the X does. Its a little confusing how its worded. Mentions better frame rates and hdr at the end. Maybe they just mean its not 4k? Kind of hard to tell.

It won't have enough vram for a higher resolution framebuffer but the CPU should smooth out CPU related performances as should the improved GPU and of course the SSD should drastically improve load times. Not the worst compromise really at the end of the day.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I defended the idea of a box with largely the same components but for a cut down GPU targeting lower resolutions, but the RAM...Even with SFS, it being physically less than the One X might be a concern.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

It's a budget device, deal with it.

The prime issue is if its presence is going to constrain developers' designs for future titles. That matters - the current issue does not.

 

[Michael Hawk]

Almost as if marketing the console as a next-gen product is deliberately misleading as it will be outclassed by both the PS5 and the Series X from the second it launches.

Almost as if developers have known this for a while now and have expressed their dissatisfaction with the device but due to the corporate nuthugging from the likes of Digital Foundry, IGN, Giant Bomb, and others, their development concerns are brushed aside as irrelevant and trivial in the grand scheme of next-gen gaming.

Almost as if people who've been gaming for decades across consoles and PC's could have seen this split in compatibility coming from a mile away.

Almost as if Microsoft are continuing their trend of overpromising and underdelivering.

 

[AgentP]

So it enhances everthing except resolution?

*Shrug*

No, that was just a list of BC features. The X enhancements are for next gen games.

 

[Snake29]

The Series S has made Sony fanboys angry for some reason.

No no...

 

[SlimySnake]

Soooo... how is this any different from ps5 backwards compatability? it actually improves fps and adds hdr, what does sony do?

PS5 has BC modes for both PS4 and PS4 Pro. thats exactly how we figured out that the github leak was real.

Native - 2.0 ghz
BC1 - 911 mhz
BC - 800 mhz.

That was the leak, those are base PS4 and PS4 Pro clocks. Which means you will get the PS4 Pro versions of all games with a PS4 Pro patch which is anything that released after 2016.

 

[Bernkastel]

Well they are in 4k, and this machine is targeting those who dont have 4K screens. Don't know whats the need for outrage over something like this.

 

[Thirty7ven]

And yet they want us to believe this is a 1440p next gen machine.

 

[jimbojim]

The Series S has made Sony fanboys angry for some reason.

Naaah. XSS was designed to be mocked and to make devs angry

 

[mrBarrelNut]

Yeah, well the X1X is a 4K machine, and the XSS will output 1440p at most and is designed for folks without 4K displays? Makes sense to me.

 

[FlyyGOD]

Xss deal gets worse by the minute it seems.damn

Imagine playing many x1 games in 900p in 2020

Did you not see that the Series S will improve xbox one games with a number of improvements or did you conviently ignore that?

 

[Batiman]

That will also be the starting point for all 3rd party development for the whole generation...

Well devs gotta get creative. Not sure what else there is to say?

 

[MilkyJoe]

I defended the idea of a box with largely the same components but for a cut down GPU targeting lower resolutions, but the RAM...Even with SFS, it being physically less than the One X might be a concern.

It's still cheap as fuck, so mission accomplished.

 

[turtlepowa]

Will be a much bigger deal here than for the Fifa/COD/Madden/Fortnite target group that don't give a shit about BC. Guess 10 pages in a few hours are possible.