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Xbox Series X Sales Potential is Being Underestimated, Analyst Believes; Suspects PS5 Will Have Sales Advantage

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I really think it’ll take back North America and maybe the UK this gen.
 

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MS doesnt have to beat PS5 to win next gen.
If PS5 sells 100 million, and XSX sells 80 million, MS would be more than happy with that. Both would make a shit ton of money.
 
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I don’t see any published article calling half of GAFers developers or hardware engineers 😂

It is not a criticism to Benji as he never called him as sales analyst.

He is a (if I’m not getting the retail wrong) a Best Buy’s employee that has access to regional sales data.
I’m not sure if you are purposely being obtuse by what I posted or just don’t see the irony in the post I originally quoted.

For the record, I don’t really put much stock into what he(Benji) says.
 
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Microsoft doesn't care about its xbox series X sales. They care about people on there service.
This is dumb; MS still wants to sell consoles.

Their #1 customers will always be console buyers who buy a lot of games, accessories AND subscribe to their services.

Everyone else is a lower tier customer they are trying to expand their base into.. doesn't mean they suddenly don't care about their most profitable customers.
 
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This is dumb; MS still wants to sell consoles.

Their #1 customers will always be console buyers who buy a lot of games, accessories AND subscribe to their services.

Everyone else is a lower tier customer they are trying to expand their base into.. doesn't mean they suddenly don't care about their most profitable customers.
The main revenue focus are Games % & subscriptions etc...
 

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This is dumb; MS still wants to sell consoles.

Their #1 customers will always be console buyers who buy a lot of games, accessories AND subscribe to their services.

Everyone else is a lower tier customer they are trying to expand their base into.. doesn't mean they suddenly don't care about their most profitable customers.
Keep telling yourself that, how much money is sony and microsoft going to make on those boxes? nothing, u could even see them lose money on it. What they care for is you are connected towards there services and pay them money through buying games where they get there cut from and that's all they care about.
 
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The main revenue focus are Games % & subscriptions etc...
Keep telling yourself that, how much money is sony and microsoft going to make on those boxes? nothing, u could even see them lose money on it. What they care for is you are connected towards there services and pay them money through buying games. It doesn't matter to them if you buy god of war of call of duty as long as its on there service.
You guys aren't understanding where a huge chunk of their "game" revenue comes from:

Third party game sales, of which MS gets a 30% cut on Xbox... they also get a cut of every accessory sold, even if it's third party. (not to mention paying for XBL... GamePass being twice as expensive as PC... hmmmm.. BUT DEY DONT CURR BOUT CONZOLEWSSSS.)

And how do people manage to buy games and accessories on consoles? By buying them.. derp. They aren't doing shit for third party game sales on Windows Store comparatively, otherwise you guys might ACTUALLY have a point.

An xbox gamer makes them multiple times the money as someone who subscribes to gamepass on PC... but sure, they dont curr.. cuzz.. like.. peeplz on forumz said so.. maths r eazy!
 
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sonomamashine

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You guys aren't understanding where a huge chunk of their "game" revenue comes from:

Third party game sales, of which MS gets a 30% cut on Xbox... they also get a cut of every accessory sold, even if it's third party. (not to mention paying for XBL... GamePass being twice as expensive as PC... hmmmm.. BUT DEY DONT CURR BOUT CONZOLEWSSSS.)

And how do people manage to buy games and accessories on consoles? By buying them.. derp. They aren't doing shit for third party game sales on Windows Store comparatively, otherwise you guys might ACTUALLY have a point.

An xbox gamer makes them multiple times the money as someone who subscribes to gamepass on PC... but sure, they dont curr.. cuzz.. like.. peeplz on forumz said so.. maths r eazy!
Lol are you retarded ?
You basically said what you quoted me for :messenger_tears_of_joy: 🤦‍♂️
My favorite parts where : derp, curr.. cuzz, peeplz, forumz, and finally "maths r eazy!"
 
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Lol are you retarded ?
You basically said what you quoted me for :messenger_tears_of_joy: 🤦‍♂️
My favorite parts where : derp, curr.. cuzz, peeplz, forumz, and finally "maths r eazy!"
And how the fuck do they make money on Call of Duty unless you buy an Xbox?

Jesus Christ lol

Oh I get it they hope people buy copies of Xbox games without the hardware! Makes total sense now genius!
 
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I think it's hard to really undersell the negative impact that the Xbone had on the Xbox brand as a whole. The Xbox 360 established Xbox as a real, long-term player in the market - equal to Sony, who have the undisputed kings for decades now. The Xbone contracted Microsoft's market share by over 50%, decimated their good will and recognition, and left their brand in tatters. A complete and unmitigated disaster. With all that said, it's easy to forget that first part - the Xbox 360 was the PS3's equal. If Microsoft can get their messaging on point, actually deliver some interesting first party titles, and produce a competitive piece of hardware, there's no reason they can't climb back to their previous position. I expect the Series X to do rather well, however Sony have had an incredible generation - barely a wrong move for six entire years - and they're going to lead next gen, no questions asked.
 
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And you CANT be fucking serious claiming I'm the one who said back to you what YOU said Did you read my post you quoted genius? The one where I explained how they manage to sell the GAMES they get their revenue from?

lol
 
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You guys aren't understanding where a huge chunk of their "game" revenue comes from:

Third party game sales, of which MS gets a 30% cut on Xbox... they also get a cut of every accessory sold, even if it's third party.

And how do people manage to buy games and accessories on consoles? By buying them.. derp.

An xbox gamer makes them multiple times the money as someone who subscribes to gamepass on PC... but sure, they dont curr.. cuzz.. like.. peeplz on forumz said so.. maths r eazy!
There money comes from subscriptions and 30% cut like we told you already. Xbox series X is only made to pull more players into their ecosystem. If you buy a game on windows store or xbox series X they don't care as long as you buy it on there platform.

Sony will also need to make some changes next generation or else they could see devs jump shit entirely or change there business model with a complete different game outputs like e-sport titles and drop single player games entirely if they are not directly paid by sony to do so. Which doesn't sound like good business to me.

This is why sales for xbox series X doesn't matter to microsoft even remotely. They could sell 10 boxes but if there service grows its fine.

And how the fuck do they make money on Call of Duty unless you buy an Xbox?

Jesus Christ lol

Oh I get it they hope people buy copies of Xbox games without the hardware! Makes total sense now genius!
Windows store.
 
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And how the fuck do they make money on Call of Duty unless you buy an Xbox?

Jesus Christ lol

Oh I get it they hope people buy copies of Xbox games without the hardware! Makes total sense now genius!
And you CANT be fucking serious claiming I'm the one who said back to you what YOU said Did you read my post you quoted genius? The one where I explained how they manage to sell the GAMES they get their revenue from?

lol
... dude calm down, me & Kenpachii Kenpachii told you that MS doesn't make money from their Box (console), they make money from the games they selling on their console + subscriptions, accessories etc...
Do you get it now ?
hmmmm.. BUT DEY DONT CURR BOUT CONZOLEWSSSS.)
they dont curr.. cuzz.. like.. peeplz on forumz said so.. maths r eazy!
You fck!n crazy :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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There money comes from subscriptions and 30% cut like we told you already. Xbox series X is only made to pull more players into their ecosystem. If you buy a game on windows store or xbox series X they don't care as long as you buy it on there platform.
Windows Store is an utter failure; nobody buys games on it... meanwhile, Xbox has a decent attach ratio.

Hence why they still care about Xbox sales. Not gonna repeat myself, maybe actually read the posts you are quoting.
 
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... dude calm down, me & Kenpachii Kenpachii told you that MS doesn't make money from their Box (console), they make money from the games they selling on their console + subscriptions, accessories etc...
Do you get it now ?
No, he said they do not care about console sales. (well XSX sales, but ... get this.. they spend literally hundreds of millions developing it.. because.. they care about selling it lol)

This conversation and no words I said were about the profit off of the box. I literally explained in my first post on this topic.

Their console customers make them WAY more money.. actually buy games through their digital store.. spend $5 / month (or a little less) on Xbox Live that doesn't exist on PC... spend twice as much on GamePass as PC...

So "they don't care about selling consoles" is absolute idiocy.

You fck!n crazy :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Correct!
 
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No, he said they do not care about console sales. (well XSX sales, but ... get this.. they spend literally hundreds of millions developing it.. because.. they care about selling it lol)

This conversation and no words I said were about the profit off of the box. I literally explained in my first post on this topic.

Their console customers make them WAY more money.. actually buy games through their digital store.. spend $5 / month (or a little less) on Xbox Live that doesn't exist on PC... spend twice as much on GamePass as PC...

So "they don't care about selling consoles" is absolute idiocy.



Correct!
That's not what i said. not going to repeat the same thing a second time sorry.
 
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No, he said they do not care about console sales. (well XSX sales, but ... get this.. they spend literally hundreds of millions developing it.. because.. they care about selling it lol)

This conversation and no words I said were about the profit off of the box. I literally explained in my first post on this topic.

Their console customers make them WAY more money.. actually buy games through their digital store.. spend $5 / month (or a little less) on Xbox Live that doesn't exist on PC... spend twice as much on GamePass as PC...

So "they don't care about selling consoles" is absolute idiocy.



Correct!
You misunderstood, you just on edge waiting to drop your knowledge.
 

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It’s a new gen. Hopefully the economy will get back, by that and go back to normal, because then I see good sales all around. No surprise .. like thefirst post says... Xbox best hardware, ps5 best selling. That’s my ((opinion))
 

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Fucking clownshoe motherfucker.
I edited that reaction straight after posting it because i know you wouldn't understand it even if i explained it straight afterwards why i come to that conclusion No offense by the way, but the way you communicate already says enough on this manner and color me surprised u didn't understand it.

Anyway i explained myself multiple times in detail and if you want to read it feel free to scroll upwards. I will skip your next low quality posts tho if you don't mind.

That 100% false.

They care... a lot.

And more Xbox sales = more people on their services.
They didn't care about PC gaming, which they axed overnight. They don't care about xbox. The only thing they care about is the money income and if it comes from PC instead of xbox they are perfectly fine with it as long as it grows. This is why xbox sales aren't important towards them.
 
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And how the fuck do they make money on Call of Duty unless you buy an Xbox?

Jesus Christ lol

Oh I get it they hope people buy copies of Xbox games without the hardware! Makes total sense now genius!
That 100% false.

They care... a lot.

And more Xbox sales = more people on their services.
It's pretty obvious those X fans are moving goalpost, they already know X can't compete on that front, so now it's just mental gymnastic to fit their narrative
 
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I edited that reaction straight after posting it because i know you wouldn't understand it even if i explained it straight afterwards why i come to that conclusion No offense by the way, but the way you communicate already says enough on this manner and color me surprised u didn't understand it.

Anyway i explained myself multiple times in detail and if you want to read it feel free to scroll upwards. I will skip your next low quality posts tho if you don't mind.
Nah you lied multiple times in detail; not sure why you think I'd give 2 shits if you stop replying... or what you think you are "explaining" to me.

And you literally just fucking repeated what you claimed you didn't say, even in more detail lol :

They didn't care about PC gaming, which they axed overnight. They don't care about xbox. The only thing they care about is the money income and if it comes from PC instead of xbox they are perfectly fine with it as long as it grows. This is why xbox sales aren't important towards them.
Holy shit mindblowing lol .. "Derr I didn't say dat"... "repeats self"

THEY MAKE MORE MONEY ON XBOX USERS THAN PC USERS (per user)

Do you get that? That's why they care about XBox Sales, they care a lot.

Here's a couple of facts:

- Windows Store is a complete and utter failure, MS desperately even tries to get devs to USE it, let alone people to buy software/games through it
- WIndows Store does NOT in fact take a 30% cut; see point #1 how it's a failure. The cut is only 15%; they've actually lowered that to 10% and 5% at times... because.. again... Windows Store is a complete and utter failure.

Microsoft doesn't spend hundreds of millions/billions of dollars developing the XBox platform because "Xbox sales aren't important to them"... at face value saying that identifies you as someone who has no clue WTF they are talking about.
 
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It's pretty obvious those X fans are moving goalpost, they already know X can't compete on that front, so now it's just mental gymnastic to fit their narrative
Well I'm an Xbox fan too; and a Playstation fan.

Just frustrating to see "MS doesn't care about Xbox sales" repeated 1000s of times on the internet. It's literally one of the dumbest most common "mantras" I've ever seen on the internet. Like makes me want to e-bang my e-head against e-walls (really I just think it's funny to make fun of derpy people repeating nonsense, not ACTUALLY frustrated lol)