They did say this.
My god. They haven't.
where have they said its possible cos of the SSD directly? I have seen the quote from Tim Saying this will Run on Currant PC hardware , which I assume he meant high end
Bernkastel
had to clarify a week or two ago. Let the discord thing go. Some group of Xbox fans on discord are not a credible threat to Sony, it is okay.
*was. The Xbox discord I am in now is not XboxEra.Yet, in your very first post, you literally posted tweets vs PS5 and Kraken. And also in few posts before you posted an article vs PS5 SSD. And also you posted Louise Kirby's tweets where he compared XSX SSD vs. PS5 SSD. But it's a thread about XSX SSD if you haven't noticed. C-c-c. And you telling me something about bias. Fine
just saw that you were on XboxERA Discord. Oh, crap
It needs fast storage if that's what you're asking
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It needs fast storage if that's what you're asking
Fast SSD storage is key to the Unreal Engine 5 demo's super detailed scenes
Along with a good GPU, you'll need a speedy drive if you want to run UE5 games at the level of detail shown in the demo.
It needs fast storage if that's what you're asking
Fast SSD storage is key to the Unreal Engine 5 demo's super detailed scenes
Along with a good GPU, you'll need a speedy drive if you want to run UE5 games at the level of detail shown in the demo.
Are you talking about XboxEra ? I was in there for like 10 days. There was this whole drama in Meta GAF, where the
THEAP99
and his fans tried to get me banned from GAF first with out of context screenshot from my discord then with a photoshop of me being admin in XboxEra.Xbot is a real disease
Our Xbox discord is pretty chill. One screenshot from "that playstation discord", will make next-gen speculation threads look civil. From sending people to other discords, to faking a whole drama to get someone banned on GAF.
Oh get off of it dude. Every company has a marketing angle, I'm fully aware of that, and acknowledge it internally whenever posting anything. But there's a strong subsection of posters who more or less boil anything someone from MS speaks about publicly as ONLY a marketing angle, yet can somehow cut through any marketing angle people from Sony might spin and parse the meat and potatoes while simultaneously acknowledging any marketing speak thereof in a positive/optimistic (non-antagonistic) fashion.
There are still people who think there was zero marketing spin in the Road to PS5 presentation, when anyone looking at it from a rationale POV would know what points where embellished and which ones were conveniently downplayed specifically to work in a marketing angle. Oh and worth noting: having a marketing angle does not inherently mean said angle is a bad thing. Again back to Road to PS5; there was a marketing angle in a lot of that, but it was generally a good one and (for me) served its purpose while still being informative enough to where I could take most of what was mentioned at face value and therefore center any constructive criticism around that.
MS does the same thing and yet some people think of them as the bane of the industry when they do so. That's a double standard, and you can notice it a good amount of times throughout thread discourse.
And XSX has fast storage so...what are you trying to insinuate in your reply? It's not fast enough? Do you have data on performance analytics somehow that no one else does? Because some pretty well-informed people discussing this have, in their own way, basically concluded you don't need "fast" storage saturating even half of the XSX SSD's speed to do what was in that demo, let alone PS5's.
That should be seen as a good thing and yet here we have a response from you somewhat cheekily responding as if to insinuate one solution is not able to do what the company directly mentioning said solution claims.
P.S: You are deliberately taking Epic's statement on the SSD to specifically mean PS5's SSD, when any sensible person would take it to mean SSDs in general that meet a certain minimal threshold. And as well, you're still aloof to the marketing angle in their PR statements in relation to the demo that bear any references (of varying degree) to PS5.
And there was no claim that it won't run on a XSX. That's my whole damn point. Just as how when MS claim 2x memory efficiency on next gen compared to current gen why are people treatimg that as secret sauce when it's obvious what they are referring to?
Then clearly you've missed the damn point completely. How do say get off it dude because you understand marketing yet assume I don't understand there is marketing. get out of here with that nonsense. Especially as you're lapping up the marketing on one side.Oh get off of it dude. Every company has a marketing angle, I'm fully aware of that, and acknowledge it internally whenever posting anything. But there's a strong subsection of posters who more or less boil anything someone from MS speaks about publicly as ONLY a marketing angle, yet can somehow cut through any marketing angle people from Sony might spin and parse the meat and potatoes while simultaneously acknowledging any marketing speak thereof in a positive/optimistic (non-antagonistic) fashion.
There are still people who think there was zero marketing spin in the Road to PS5 presentation, when anyone looking at it from a rationale POV would know what points where embellished and which ones were conveniently downplayed specifically to work in a marketing angle. Oh and worth noting: having a marketing angle does not inherently mean said angle is a bad thing. Again back to Road to PS5; there was a marketing angle in a lot of that, but it was generally a good one and (for me) served its purpose while still being informative enough to where I could take most of what was mentioned at face value and therefore center any constructive criticism around that.
MS does the same thing and yet some people think of them as the bane of the industry when they do so. That's a double standard, and you can notice it a good amount of times throughout thread discourse.
And XSX has fast storage so...what are you trying to insinuate in your reply? It's not fast enough? Do you have data on performance analytics somehow that no one else does? Because some pretty well-informed people discussing this have, in their own way, basically concluded you don't need "fast" storage saturating even half of the XSX SSD's speed to do what was in that demo, let alone PS5's.
That should be seen as a good thing and yet here we have a response from you somewhat cheekily responding as if to insinuate one solution is not able to do what the company directly mentioning said solution claims.
P.S: You are deliberately taking Epic's statement on the SSD to specifically mean PS5's SSD, when any sensible person would take it to mean SSDs in general that meet a certain minimal threshold. And as well, you're still aloof to the marketing angle in their PR statements in relation to the demo that bear any references (of varying degree) to PS5.
No fucking idea. Probably. They said it will run awesome on both. It's not like I have access to it to run some profiler on it.
I'm kind of shocked you think Sony has nothing else to push. Something, something, games, oh yeah
It was first posted in ban review. Evilore moved it to Meta GAF, saying "Keep Off-Site drama to Meta GAF". Some dude mentioned it again in a gaming thread and was banned by Mod of War.
Are you talking about XboxEra ? I was in there for like 10 days. There was this whole drama in Meta GAF, where the
If you mean, the current one I am part of, the only notable ones are reddit mods and Louise Kirby.
You sound like you want to start a new drama.
Mod of War
Someone restarted the discord drama. Not my faultYet, in your very first post, you literally posted tweets vs PS5 and Kraken. And also in few posts before you posted an article vs PS5 SSD. And also you posted Louise Kirby's tweets where he had compared XSX SSD vs. PS5 SSD. But it's a thread about XSX SSD if you haven't noticed. C-c-c. And you telling me something about bias. Fine
just saw that you were on XboxERA Discord. Oh, crap
Mod of War
I think it would be a bannable offense here. It should be really easy to tell if it was fotoshopped.
There are no games to push as of yet or have you seen loads of PS5 games that we haven’t?
Has that been said by Microsoft? That’s what will happen?
No but just as I was pointing out some are reading the claim that there is 2x memory efficiency compared to xbox one games because of SSD as 2x efficiency on XSX only because of 'secret sauce'.
Same with people saying there will be no bottlenecks. There will always be bottlenecks no matter what. Just the bottlenecks are better this gen compared to last gen
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Right, exactly but again how is that relevant here. Did I say people saying there are no bottlenecks are correct? This is what I mean about attacking a straw man. Some critical thinking and providing relevant evidence would help this thread greatly.
That argument does not hold water with me because Sony has earned my trust with respect to providing a library of great console exclusives. I fully expect to see something nice next week during their stream. I'm going to end this line of discussion here now, because I dont want to muck up the thread arguing over software.
I had read your first post (that I replied to) to the effect of Sony was going to focus their marketing strategy on SSD, as its their only advantage and what they would push. I feel they will be pushing their pedigree with respect to games more than SSD, or at least as much. You then called me out for not seeing the games yet, which was accurate on your part. As it seemed you were disclaiming their software chops as an advantage for marketing, I did assume you were rejecting my theory about pushing their games as an advantage. If you aren't then we agree to agree I guess.
Yeah Sony haven’t talked games yet. They only talked hardware and not that much on it yet. If you look at the effect of what they are pushing you can see it on this forum. SSD and why people are arguing it will make PS5 better than Xbox or this very thread of Xbox using compression to double their speed or whatever
i don't see how you could make a 10x improvement on PRT. Unless knowing the mip maps you require means less data overall
