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Xcloud is coming to Samsung TVs (June 30th)

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Sweet. I have a Samsung Frame in the lounge. Saves me moving my Series X or Ps5 about :messenger_tears_of_joy:

EDIT: Oh. It's only for brand new 2022 Samsungs. As you were.
 
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johnjohn

Member
This looks amazing. It feels like Xbox is setting themselves up to explode in popularity.
 
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Pelta88

Member
I'm interested to see how the casual market responds to this.

XBOX will either boast or say nothing whatsoever. Both of which will speak volumes.
 

Kirkio

Neo Member
This looks pretty cool, I'll be in the market for an Xbox around the starfield release date, this might save me some money, assuming the app comes to the C1
 

GhostOfTsu

Member
Back in 2015. Cloud gaming will never take off.
Michael J Fox Marty GIF by Back to the Future Trilogy

The "future is now" and yet everything Xbox is doing, Sony already did last decade with PS Now and no one gave a shit. They didn't have brand ambassadors on every forums to spread the word I guess 🤔

I was already streaming games on Vita back then 😆
 

twilo99

Member
Pretty badass honestly as a backup option for people.

I was playing pac man museum yesterday on my phone through the cloud. Worked completely fine, and that game is very dependent on control accuracy.

PS5 $500
Xbox Series X $500
Xbox Series S $300
XCloud Free

I could see a whole generation of kids growing up playing like this, especially during a recession and global chip shortage. Then fast forward 12 years and it's just normal for everyone.

I've been playing killer instinct over decent LTE on my phone and its been pretty good. wi-fi works best. gotta try pac man!
 
What do you base this assertion on?

History? How do masses consume music or movies? Do they go to the store to buy music on CDs / movies on DVDs and play it on dedicated piece of hardware? Do they buy them digitally? No, they stream because it's faster and more convenient.

Internet speeds are only going one way: up. I remember the days when downloading one song could take hours. Internet speed in some areas of the world are the only limiting factor but it will change with time. Streaming is the future.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
History? How do masses consume music or movies? Do they go to the store to buy music on CDs / movies on DVDs and play it on dedicated piece of hardware? Do they buy them digitally? No, they stream because it's faster and more convenient.

Internet speeds are only going one way: up. I remember the days when downloading one song could take hours. Internet speed in some areas of the world are the only limiting factor but it will change with time. Streaming is the future.
They still do those things yes. And you're talking about non interactive media. It's not remotely the same. It'll be an option but never the primary way people play games. Did you say the same when psnow launched?
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
The "future is now" and yet everything Xbox is doing, Sony already did last decade with PS Now and no one gave a shit. They didn't have brand ambassadors on every forums to spread the word I guess 🤔

I was already streaming games on Vita back then 😆
Playing PS4 games on the Vita’s OLED was the bomb. Just a shame the Vita had a gimped wifi card.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
The "future is now" and yet everything Xbox is doing, Sony already did last decade with PS Now and no one gave a shit. They didn't have brand ambassadors on every forums to spread the word I guess 🤔

I was already streaming games on Vita back then 😆
It does seem odd that every single person who says this kind of stuff are MS fans.

Merry Christmas gamers. I hope you like crap.
 
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They still do those things yes.

Masses do these things? Are you feeling okay, sir? :messenger_grinning_sweat:

And you're talking about non interactive media. It's not remotely the same. It'll be an option but never the primary way people play games. Did you say the same when psnow launched?

You can stream games here and now with little to none latency, if your internet is up to the task. Internet speeds are going up. Streaming technology is getting better. AI upscaling technology is getting better. It won't happen overnight but it will happen, just like with music and movie industry. It's really not that hard to understand if you've been alive long enough.

So yes, with 100% certainty, there will be a time when masses will consume games using cloud streaming on whatever device they want. And then there will be dedicated gaming hardware for smaller group of enthusiasts.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Masses do these things? Are you feeling okay, sir? :messenger_grinning_sweat:



You can stream games here and now with little to none latency, if your internet is up to the task. Internet speeds are going up. Streaming technology is getting better. AI upscaling technology is getting better. It won't happen overnight but it will happen, just like with music and movie industry. It's really not that hard to understand if you've been alive long enough.

So yes, with 100% certainty, there will be a time when masses will consume games using cloud streaming on whatever device they want. And then there will be dedicated gaming hardware for smaller group of enthusiasts.
Where do you live in this magical land of no latency? You also dodged a question. Did you say the same when psnow launched? I kind of doubt it.
 

DarkMage619

Report me if I continue to console war
The "future is now" and yet everything Xbox is doing, Sony already did last decade with PS Now and no one gave a shit. They didn't have brand ambassadors on every forums to spread the word I guess 🤔

I was already streaming games on Vita back then 😆
Really? I thought there was a district difference in popularity between Game Pass and PS Now. Sony doing subscriptions first != Sony doing subscriptions better.
 

GhostOfTsu

Member
It does seem odd that every single person who says this kind of stuff are MS fans.

Merry Christmas gamers. I hope you like crap.
They've been here long enough to know.
MS looked at everything Sony did with PS Now and copied it 100%. All of this was already done and it failed. They laughed at Stadia too and the app is already on everything.

The Xbox marketing machine is in full force so we'll see if it works this time.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Cool.
Really? I thought there was a district difference in popularity between Game Pass and PS Now. Sony doing subscriptions first != Sony doing subscriptions better.
Sony doing sub plans involving games is a disaster. In the 8 years it's been available, PS Now is at about 4M subbers. It was 3.2M a year ago but they stopped telling the sub count. So for sake of estimates, I'll round up to 4M a year later. And that's probably being generous. GP probably had more subs in year one alone.

Sony bundled in the game subs with PS+ to create extra tiers in hopes of maxing out revenue from game subbers who want games but didnt want to pay for PS+ MP. But now, any PS gamer who wants game subs has to buy the medium or top tier which forces in PS Essentials (MP gaming).
 
Where do you live in this magical land of no latency? You also dodged a question. Did you say the same when psnow launched? I kind of doubt it.

Oh look, this dude is playing a racing game and a FPS via Xcloud. Is it perfect? No. Will it get perfect? With time, absolutely.


I remember downloading P. DIddy's "Bad Boy for Life" music video for over a week back in the early 2000s. 20 years later I can live stream games to my phone. If you don't understand where this is going swap "advanced" with "backwards" in your tag and you're good to go.

You also dodged a question. Did you say the same when psnow launched?

I've been saying this for years. I don't know when PS now launched but I don't expect Sony to lead the charge in streaming revolution.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Oh look, this dude is playing a racing game and a FPS via Xcloud. Is it perfect? No. Will it get perfect? With time, absolutely.


I remember downloading P. DIddy's "Bad Boy for Life" music video for over a week back in the early 2000s. 20 years later I can live stream games to my phone. If you don't understand where this is going swap "advanced" with "backwards" in your tag and you're good to go.



I've been saying this for years. I don't know when PS now launched but I don't expect Sony to lead the charge in streaming revolution.
Of course you don't. You don't believe Google will either. MS will somehow succeed where all others have failed. What a joke.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
They've been here long enough to know.
MS looked at everything Sony did with PS Now and copied it 100%. All of this was already done and it failed. They laughed at Stadia too and the app is already on everything.

The Xbox marketing machine is in full force so we'll see if it works this time.
PS Now failed because the price was a rip off for years, the games were old, and going by that metacritic recap someone did, a lot of the games on PS Now are crap dragging down the avg rating score. And a lot of games are stream only. Playing it PC is 100% streaming no matter what. For the first bunch of years, it was even 100% stream only for all platforms. And also for the first half, it was capped at 720p/30 fps.

They had no idea what they were doing.

The only thing GP has in common with PS Now is they are both game sub plans.

GP launched a few years later, but has better promotion deals, more recent games, first party day one, all games downloadable to play at their native res/frames on console and PC. None of this forced streaming crap like this is OnLive from 10 years ago. Also includes EA Play for added value.
 

Kagey K

Member
PS Now failed because the price was a rip off for years, the games were old, and going by that metacritic recap someone did, a lot of the games on PS Now are crap dragging down the avg rating score. And a lot of games are stream only. Playing it PC is 100% streaming no matter what. For the first bunch of years, it was even 100% stream only for all platforms. And also for the first half, it was capped at 720p/30 fps.

They had no idea what they were doing.

The only thing GP has in common with PS Now is they are both game sub plans.

GP launched a few years later, but has better promotion deals, more recent games, first party day one, all games downloadable to play at their native res/frames on console and PC. None of this forced streaming crap like this is OnLive from 10 years ago. Also includes EA Play for added value.
Remember when Sony thought they could charge you game rental prices, per game for streaming on PSNOW? How the hell did they ever think that would catch on?

https://www.polygon.com/2014/7/30/5953711/playstation-now-rentals-cost
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Saying that game streaming will fail because Stadia failed is like saying that social media will fail because Google + failed. Joke's on you.
If you say so. Google couldn't make it happen but MS will. Makes sense.

Let's take it from another perspective. Gigabit speed internet in my neck of the woods cost 100 dollars a month. You really think someone who pays that much for high speed internet can't afford a 500 dollar console?
 
If you say so. Google couldn't make it happen but MS will. Makes sense.

Let's take it from another perspective. Gigabit speed internet in my neck of the woods cost 100 dollars a month. You really think someone who pays that much for high speed internet can't afford a 500 dollar console?

How much it will cost in 10, 20, 30 years? You're thinking here and now. Look back 20-30 years and look where we are now. Then try to image where is it going in 20-30 years.

Music streaming as we know it today would feel like complete sci-fi to me 30 years ago. I was glued to my hi-fi listening to radio and trying to catch that one song I like to record it on a tape.

Things will be different.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Remember when Sony thought they could charge you game rental prices, per game for streaming on PSNOW? How the hell did they ever think that would catch on?

https://www.polygon.com/2014/7/30/5953711/playstation-now-rentals-cost
Oh shit. I forgot about that. I remembered only the $45 per quarter price. $180/yr for a limped service.

But now I remember the rentals. That must had been a year one bomb that didnt last.

Biggest rip off ever. Thats when Sony was trying to act like Redbox. I now remember people laughing how Sony was trying to charge more money for a rental vs. buying a cheap disc off Amazon.
 

CobraAB

Member
I tried playing MSFS 2020 via streaming on a M1 iMac and it was nothing short of a total shit show. Worst streaming I had ever seen. I then played CyberPunk 2077 vis GeForce Now RTX and it was pretty impressive.

Maybe I need to try something else but the experience was not good at all. That was about a month ago.
 

twilo99

Member
If you say so. Google couldn't make it happen but MS will. Makes sense.

Let's take it from another perspective. Gigabit speed internet in my neck of the woods cost 100 dollars a month. You really think someone who pays that much for high speed internet can't afford a 500 dollar console?

Do you think the advertising / marketing company makes everything they attempt a success?


They have numerous failed projects..
 
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twilo99

Member
How much it will cost in 10, 20, 30 years? You're thinking here and now. Look back 20-30 years and look where we are now. Then try to image where is it going in 20-30 years.

Music streaming as we know it today would feel like complete sci-fi to me 30 years ago. I was glued to my hi-fi listening to radio and trying to catch that one song I like to record it on a tape.

Things will be different.

You are applying too much common sense and logic... I would advise against that
 

Chukhopops

Member
The "future is now" and yet everything Xbox is doing, Sony already did last decade with PS Now and no one gave a shit. They didn't have brand ambassadors on every forums to spread the word I guess 🤔

I was already streaming games on Vita back then 😆
And yet everyone forgot about PSNow and even Sony abandoned the brand.

It doesn’t matter if you’re first if you don’t get it right.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Pretty badass honestly as a backup option for people.

I was playing pac man museum yesterday on my phone through the cloud. Worked completely fine, and that game is very dependent on control accuracy.

PS5 $500
Xbox Series X $500
Xbox Series S $300
XCloud Free

I could see a whole generation of kids growing up playing like this, especially during a recession and global chip shortage. Then fast forward 12 years and it's just normal for everyone.

Is everyone rich and middle class in your future?
 

wolywood

Member
Oh look, this dude is playing a racing game and a FPS via Xcloud. Is it perfect? No. Will it get perfect? With time, absolutely.


I remember downloading P. DIddy's "Bad Boy for Life" music video for over a week back in the early 2000s. 20 years later I can live stream games to my phone. If you don't understand where this is going swap "advanced" with "backwards" in your tag and you're good to go.



I've been saying this for years. I don't know when PS now launched but I don't expect Sony to lead the charge in streaming revolution.
Dude, don't even bother. If poeple want to stick their heads in the sand and continue to pretend cloud gaming isn't a viable option now, let them.
How much it will cost in 10, 20, 30 years? You're thinking here and now. Look back 20-30 years and look where we are now. Then try to image where is it going in 20-30 years.

Music streaming as we know it today would feel like complete sci-fi to me 30 years ago. I was glued to my hi-fi listening to radio and trying to catch that one song I like to record it on a tape.

Things will be different.
Cloud gaming today even compared to a year or two ago has made massive leaps forward. I can stream 3080 tier PC games with ray tracing, 4K resolution and HDR to my TV via GeForce Now and the latency is nearly as good/low as a console.
 
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