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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 surpasses two million copies sold

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Tried to play this game and couldn't get past the first 15 hours. The British voices put me off, British people are terrible actors in general so I don't know why they didn't go with an established North American VA team.
Yeah, the voice actors apparently didn't receive good direction from the responsible audio/voice director so the acting is all over the place. I don't personally mind the British accent. But I would still recommend playing it with Japanese voices.
 
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British people are terrible actors in general so I don't know why they didn't go with an established North American VA team.
 

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Tried to play this game and couldn't get past the first 15 hours. The British voices put me off, British people are terrible actors in general so I don't know why they didn't go with an established North American VA team.

The accents are one of the things I really like about this game. I really like that they have different dialects (scottish, welsh, various shades of english) for different factions and I find that it gives the game more character.

That said, the whole "British people are terrible actors in general" is one hell of a hot take. You do you, man, but that's pretty silly. Especially considering the prevalence of british actors across media and particularily american media.
 

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I thought the whole gacha aspect was a bit too much and binding the gacha characters to the real characters was a real kick in the nuts. There's nothing like pulling the legendary healer blade on your offensive character...

Other than that fuck yeah Monolith, give us more xenoblade!
 

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I thought the whole gacha aspect was a bit too much and binding the gacha characters to the real characters was a real kick in the nuts. There's nothing like pulling the legendary healer blade on your offensive character...

Other than that fuck yeah Monolith, give us more xenoblade!
Real quick there's an item to rebind the blades to other character if you're not aware. Then again although I like the uncertainty of it still sucks overall.
 

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The accents are one of the things I really like about this game. I really like that they have different dialects (scottish, welsh, various shades of english) for different factions and I find that it gives the game more character.

That said, the whole "British people are terrible actors in general" is one hell of a hot take. You do you, man, but that's pretty silly. Especially considering the prevalence of british actors across media and particularily american media.

Not exactly a hot take bud, have you ever seen British soaps? They are pitiful when up against American actors like Hugh Laurie, Tom Holland or Andrew Garfield.
 

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Tried to play this game and couldn't get past the first 15 hours. The British voices put me off, British people are terrible actors in general so I don't know why they didn't go with an established North American VA team.
You say that like there's a million examples of JRPGs with stellar American VA.
 

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Why argue about accents when there are plenty of actual bad things to point out. Like the resolution.
 

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I really need to get back into this, but I guess I got overwhelmed by the mechanics when it was opening up.

Was trying to find a Kidnapped Nia I think.
I actually really like XC2's combat system but I admit that the game does pretty poor job teaching the player about its combat.
 
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Why do you need be such ass about it? Everyone have different taste in games, let people like what they want to like....is that too much for you?
Yeah, it is when they help ruin what was a really good series.

As someone who has liked pretty much every Xeno whatever, Xb2 is awful and the direction the series shouldn't go. The fact that it sold well is a shame.
 

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Yeah, it is when they help ruin what was a really good series.

As someone who has liked pretty much every Xeno whatever, Xb2 is awful and the direction the series shouldn't go. The fact that it sold well is a shame.
I don't like the direction RE is going with with 7 and 8 but I'm not gonna insult the people who do enjoy those games.There no to need act childish about it!!
 
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Ignore that idiot, man. Dude comes into a Xenoblade thread to post that people who like Xenoblade are shitheads. There's no basis for any rational discussion.
Actually, that came later. I came into the thread to simply say the game was bad.
 
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I don't like the direction RE is going with with 7 and 8 but I'm not gonna insult the people who do enjoy those games.There no to need act childish about it!!
Thats nice. People who like FPS RE aren't the same as the waifu-hungry fandom that's ruined anime and Japanese games in general.
 

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Yeah, it is when they help ruin what was a really good series.

As someone who has liked pretty much every Xeno whatever, Xb2 is awful and the direction the series shouldn't go. The fact that it sold well is a shame.
It's not ruined for me. The fact that it is sold well is not shame, it's a success. Definitely a good direction the series should go overall.
 
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It's not ruined for me. The fact that it is sold is not shame, it's a success. Definitely a good direction the series should go overall.
It is for me. Pretty shitty when JRPGs have to appease creepy otaku people as if they don't already have entire companies and series of games for them already. So if that's the direction it's going, kind of a shame since the Xenoblade games were actually good before two. But I guess garbage is what people want.
 

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It is for me. Pretty shitty when JRPGs have to appease creepy otaku people as if they don't already have entire companies and series of games for them already. So if that's the direction it's going, kind of a shame since the Xenoblade games were actually good before two. But I guess garbage is what people want.
You did dismiss a good portion of the game just to justify your narrative. Especially the combat and story sequence.
 
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You did dismiss a good portion of the game just to justify your narrative. Especially the combat and story sequence.
What the fuck are you talking about? There is nothing good about the game.


What was there to like here?

It wasn't the story. The story was crap. Tales level crap complete with the same sophistication of themes. Any 5 year old could tell you the some moralizing crap this game does, probably with a bit more directness and little need to keep repeating the same stuff over and over again for hours on end. I get it, life is worth living and it won't change if you refuse to not change. I get it, people need to work together. Jesus Christ did this story have the nuance of a Disney Channel kids show, except here they felt the need to have characters constantly moralize to you the player. It got extermley annoying.

And yet most of the character's had no real development. The party members were awful and for most of them after they had their little episode of development the story put them in the back of the bus, only playing lip service to them every once in a while. Good jrpgs will have their characters tied to the story, the setting, and keep them involved till the end. Not here. Once they join you're party, they are done honestly and in the end what where these character's arcs? Rex's stays an optimistic little generic anime boy the whole time. His only challenge is I guess he loses at one point. Oh boy! A character with really no personality beyond being optimistic anime boy. No challenge in life beyond keep going. No identity crisis. No real conflict. Just super boring. Nothing memorable about this character at all and his strange creepy waifu relationship is lame and otaku baity. He loves Pyra why? What is their relationship beyond "GOTTA GO TO ELYSIUM". Like there's nothing there whatsoever.
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Morag becomes useless and offers nothing after she joins you. Far more interesting as an antagonist because at least she had presence. After she joins your party she just continues to be stern anime female. Yawn inducing. I don't know why people like this character beyond their waifu fetishism. She looks stupid. She looks like Chopin from Eternal Sonata and her cool presence fades after chapter 3. But see here's another character that added nothing to the game. Here we could have seen the reflection of the world's politics as she clearly is bias towards her nation. You get a few snippets, but nothing interesting. Honestly what was her character? Did she have an arc? Did she have any conflict? No.

Zekke. Whatever. Not even a character. They don't do anything with his exiled prince aspect and the anime badass goof thing pretty much stops. But here is the perfect example of where the game basically stops to a crawl to show his backstory and then moves past it. Out of nowhere the game decides to stop what it's doing and have his backstory with Pandoria and then goes "oh were done with this episode" time to move on with the Nia stuff. It was like ok, I guess that's all this character deserves.

Pyra. Just more anime waifu crap. What was interesting about her. That she talks mysteriously about this plot(EVERYONE IN THE GAME DOES. EVERYONE ACTS LIKE THEY ARE IN THE KNOW). She seems to be hiding something? She seems to have some secret? Some agency? Whatever thats all droped midway as she becomes more interested in crushy blushy for Rex. Her character just basically becomes Rex's girlfriend and loses any aspect that made her at all somewhat ok. Even Tusandre Mythra gives up the act as the game goes on.

I don't care about the Nippon character, but at least the chapter about him was full of actually amusing anime jokes. I hate the Nippons and thier humor and va. At least Poppi was somewhat fun in a very cliche anime way.

And then Torna is just whatever. I wish I liked them, but Christ did they suck. Nomura's work here seemed very phoned in. Oh he has glasses and is the smart one! Most of them just seem like overly sad sacks with the dumbest goal ever. WE WANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD BECAUSE HUMANS ARE BAD. I almost can't belive this is a theme/story beat in the game. Constantly about how humans destroy stuff. Yes, it's never been done before, but here it pretty much stops there.

Jin/Malos: Human's are bad

Rex: Well yeah, but not always and sometimes they do good.

Jin/Malos: Wel....yeah....but eventually all they do is kill and destroy.

Rex: Yeah, but so what not everyone is like that

Jin/Malos: i guess....but BLADES aren't slaves and thats bad.

Rex: Yeah but your driver's loved you and we work as a team.

Jin/Malos: Oh well...WHATEVER

Thats almost every scene and then anyway I guess Torna realizes how dumb and angsty they sounded anyway because reasons. or rather because the story is crappy. It's funny because right before they died it was like the game frogot to develop the glasses dude and the girl and was like oh yeah they I guess had something life...IDK brother and sister because. It was like wtf are you even trying?

And then Fantasy Pope is also evil because get this bad people did bad things and I guess he should control everything because of that. Nobody saw that coming.

No one here had interesting motivations. No inserting conflicts that reveal some character substance. No villain here had a logical argument that a 12 year old couldn't see a problem with. It was the worst of anime philosophizing and it was embarrassing and tiring to listen to.

And then the sci-fi twist is stupid. In the first Xenoblade it worked. The Monodo and just general setting of the world being on two giant robot gods already establishes that the world has something going on. Here honestly the world feels like a fantasy world and even Blades aren't odd. So to throw in the connection to the first game feels so random and pointless for the story. It also doesn't add much. I guess the creator is some sad sack in a space station who's point is what? He really makes no impact on the story and changes little about the core of the story. We learn about Blades, but as a non angtsy viewer I already know Blades are people and honestly the game does a really poor job of selling the Blade conflict. Yes there's regulations on them and yes the country where they were equals was unfairly destroyed. But honestly they don't seem unfairly treated and the Driver Blade thing needs to exist anyway. The alternative doesn't really work, so honestly whats the endgame? The game brings up this problem and then basically has nothing interesting to say about it.
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And I don't know the world never felt interesting to me. But also because it's a typical jrpg world and you know what? That does not work with the scale of the Blade games. Are these supposed to be big nations and big cities? Because they just feel like JRPG worlds and in that I mean a country has one city and that's it and the city isn't big. That works in things like Tales or other jrpgs. Hell in some Tales games they have in the background the rest of the cityscape to make you feel like this city is bigger. But since Xeno games go for scale, it feels like the whole world is small and less than a million people live in it. I guess that's true, but because of that none of these places feel like what they say they are. These aren't nations. They are some small towns. Other Xeno games did'nt feel like that because well in the 1st Blade it is just a small population, likewise in XBX.

Also the environments never felt as big or grand as XBX. A lot of them felt small. A lot of them felt like linear hallways. A big valley here and there, but most of them had few interesting aspects to them. Nothing like XBX's world.

Also the whole Titans thing was lame and did'nt do anything. At no point did I ever feel like I was on something. If you took out a few sky boxes, this world would feel like generic rpg world. Nothing like realizing your on the arm of a mech god like in XB1.

As for the battle system. It was fun somewhat. It always felt slow. When you switch to combat it felt like your character was now walking through water. Animation was slow and felt like it took forever. Stupid that animation was prioritized as characters would miss out on topples and launches because they had to do their animations. AI was dumb and I've never felt that about ai controlled parties. Not in FFXII, Persona, or whatever. Here since setting up combos depends on your party as well, means you have to wait and pray they switch to the Blade you want them to. Meaning you can miss out and chances and moves you want to do.

The RNG blade system is awful. That is all. After 80 hrs I never got Kos Mos. Fuck this.

And that's it. I hated this game. This has really killed my intrests in Monolith Soft. I can't belvie they made something this awful. I mean I don't even care about how ugly the game looks. There's not a cool design in this game. NEVER HIRE THIS CHARACTER DESIGNER AGAIN. I don't even care about Pyra's tits. Whatever they are stupid, but her outfit in general looks lame. Colorful robot girl anime shit in a world where no one looks like this. Then her and Rex decide to cosplay like Kos Mos. Everyone looks like crap. The game was crap and I hope honestly the Xeno series is dead if this is what they think they can make.

This game its:

 

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What the fuck are you talking about? There is nothing good about the game.


What was there to like here?

It wasn't the story. The story was crap. Tales level crap complete with the same sophistication of themes. Any 5 year old could tell you the some moralizing crap this game does, probably with a bit more directness and little need to keep repeating the same stuff over and over again for hours on end. I get it, life is worth living and it won't change if you refuse to not change. I get it, people need to work together. Jesus Christ did this story have the nuance of a Disney Channel kids show, except here they felt the need to have characters constantly moralize to you the player. It got extermley annoying.

And yet most of the character's had no real development. The party members were awful and for most of them after they had their little episode of development the story put them in the back of the bus, only playing lip service to them every once in a while. Good jrpgs will have their characters tied to the story, the setting, and keep them involved till the end. Not here. Once they join you're party, they are done honestly and in the end what where these character's arcs? Rex's stays an optimistic little generic anime boy the whole time. His only challenge is I guess he loses at one point. Oh boy! A character with really no personality beyond being optimistic anime boy. No challenge in life beyond keep going. No identity crisis. No real conflict. Just super boring. Nothing memorable about this character at all and his strange creepy waifu relationship is lame and otaku baity. He loves Pyra why? What is their relationship beyond "GOTTA GO TO ELYSIUM". Like there's nothing there whatsoever.
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Morag becomes useless and offers nothing after she joins you. Far more interesting as an antagonist because at least she had presence. After she joins your party she just continues to be stern anime female. Yawn inducing. I don't know why people like this character beyond their waifu fetishism. She looks stupid. She looks like Chopin from Eternal Sonata and her cool presence fades after chapter 3. But see here's another character that added nothing to the game. Here we could have seen the reflection of the world's politics as she clearly is bias towards her nation. You get a few snippets, but nothing interesting. Honestly what was her character? Did she have an arc? Did she have any conflict? No.

Zekke. Whatever. Not even a character. They don't do anything with his exiled prince aspect and the anime badass goof thing pretty much stops. But here is the perfect example of where the game basically stops to a crawl to show his backstory and then moves past it. Out of nowhere the game decides to stop what it's doing and have his backstory with Pandoria and then goes "oh were done with this episode" time to move on with the Nia stuff. It was like ok, I guess that's all this character deserves.

Pyra. Just more anime waifu crap. What was interesting about her. That she talks mysteriously about this plot(EVERYONE IN THE GAME DOES. EVERYONE ACTS LIKE THEY ARE IN THE KNOW). She seems to be hiding something? She seems to have some secret? Some agency? Whatever thats all droped midway as she becomes more interested in crushy blushy for Rex. Her character just basically becomes Rex's girlfriend and loses any aspect that made her at all somewhat ok. Even Tusandre Mythra gives up the act as the game goes on.

I don't care about the Nippon character, but at least the chapter about him was full of actually amusing anime jokes. I hate the Nippons and thier humor and va. At least Poppi was somewhat fun in a very cliche anime way.

And then Torna is just whatever. I wish I liked them, but Christ did they suck. Nomura's work here seemed very phoned in. Oh he has glasses and is the smart one! Most of them just seem like overly sad sacks with the dumbest goal ever. WE WANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD BECAUSE HUMANS ARE BAD. I almost can't belive this is a theme/story beat in the game. Constantly about how humans destroy stuff. Yes, it's never been done before, but here it pretty much stops there.

Jin/Malos: Human's are bad

Rex: Well yeah, but not always and sometimes they do good.

Jin/Malos: Wel....yeah....but eventually all they do is kill and destroy.

Rex: Yeah, but so what not everyone is like that

Jin/Malos: i guess....but BLADES aren't slaves and thats bad.

Rex: Yeah but your driver's loved you and we work as a team.

Jin/Malos: Oh well...WHATEVER

Thats almost every scene and then anyway I guess Torna realizes how dumb and angsty they sounded anyway because reasons. or rather because the story is crappy. It's funny because right before they died it was like the game frogot to develop the glasses dude and the girl and was like oh yeah they I guess had something life...IDK brother and sister because. It was like wtf are you even trying?

And then Fantasy Pope is also evil because get this bad people did bad things and I guess he should control everything because of that. Nobody saw that coming.

No one here had interesting motivations. No inserting conflicts that reveal some character substance. No villain here had a logical argument that a 12 year old couldn't see a problem with. It was the worst of anime philosophizing and it was embarrassing and tiring to listen to.

And then the sci-fi twist is stupid. In the first Xenoblade it worked. The Monodo and just general setting of the world being on two giant robot gods already establishes that the world has something going on. Here honestly the world feels like a fantasy world and even Blades aren't odd. So to throw in the connection to the first game feels so random and pointless for the story. It also doesn't add much. I guess the creator is some sad sack in a space station who's point is what? He really makes no impact on the story and changes little about the core of the story. We learn about Blades, but as a non angtsy viewer I already know Blades are people and honestly the game does a really poor job of selling the Blade conflict. Yes there's regulations on them and yes the country where they were equals was unfairly destroyed. But honestly they don't seem unfairly treated and the Driver Blade thing needs to exist anyway. The alternative doesn't really work, so honestly whats the endgame? The game brings up this problem and then basically has nothing interesting to say about it.
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And I don't know the world never felt interesting to me. But also because it's a typical jrpg world and you know what? That does not work with the scale of the Blade games. Are these supposed to be big nations and big cities? Because they just feel like JRPG worlds and in that I mean a country has one city and that's it and the city isn't big. That works in things like Tales or other jrpgs. Hell in some Tales games they have in the background the rest of the cityscape to make you feel like this city is bigger. But since Xeno games go for scale, it feels like the whole world is small and less than a million people live in it. I guess that's true, but because of that none of these places feel like what they say they are. These aren't nations. They are some small towns. Other Xeno games did'nt feel like that because well in the 1st Blade it is just a small population, likewise in XBX.

Also the environments never felt as big or grand as XBX. A lot of them felt small. A lot of them felt like linear hallways. A big valley here and there, but most of them had few interesting aspects to them. Nothing like XBX's world.

Also the whole Titans thing was lame and did'nt do anything. At no point did I ever feel like I was on something. If you took out a few sky boxes, this world would feel like generic rpg world. Nothing like realizing your on the arm of a mech god like in XB1.

As for the battle system. It was fun somewhat. It always felt slow. When you switch to combat it felt like your character was now walking through water. Animation was slow and felt like it took forever. Stupid that animation was prioritized as characters would miss out on topples and launches because they had to do their animations. AI was dumb and I've never felt that about ai controlled parties. Not in FFXII, Persona, or whatever. Here since setting up combos depends on your party as well, means you have to wait and pray they switch to the Blade you want them to. Meaning you can miss out and chances and moves you want to do.

The RNG blade system is awful. That is all. After 80 hrs I never got Kos Mos. Fuck this.

And that's it. I hated this game. This has really killed my intrests in Monolith Soft. I can't belvie they made something this awful. I mean I don't even care about how ugly the game looks. There's not a cool design in this game. NEVER HIRE THIS CHARACTER DESIGNER AGAIN. I don't even care about Pyra's tits. Whatever they are stupid, but her outfit in general looks lame. Colorful robot girl anime shit in a world where no one looks like this. Then her and Rex decide to cosplay like Kos Mos. Everyone looks like crap. The game was crap and I hope honestly the Xeno series is dead if this is what they think they can make.

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You just wrote bunch of nonsense, I could wrote all those things with every game but I'm just too lazy.

What about the combat then. Is it garbage to you? Interested in knowing how you spin this.
 
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Nah, what I typed isn't nonsense. You just don't really have anything to say beyond "you like this game".

Which hey, you'll probably get more otaku bait shit from Monolith so you'll be happy.
 
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Congrats to monolith soft.

Wish list : 1. Xenoblade Chronicle X port to Switch
2. The the tone of their next project more aligned with XBC1 rather 2.
 

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Nah, what I typed isn't nonsense. You just don't really have anything to say beyond "you like this game".

Which hey, you'll probably get more otaku bait shit from Monolith so you'll be happy.
I said that the premise of getting to Elysium is great, the story didn't take themselves seriously and the overall journey is just fun to experience.

Combat, tell me how you feel about combat. Don't start cherry picking now.
 
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I said that the premise of getting to Elysium is great, the story didn't take themselves seriously and the overall journey is just fun to experience.

Combat, tell me how you feel about combat. Don't start cherry picking now.
What's great about it? What made the journey an overall fun experience? You want me to expand on my opinion, but you've failed to say anything beyond "I like game".

The premise of going to a heavenly land? I don't know why that generic premise is neat, but I do know the game does nothing cool with it. Anyone with a brain knows that Elysium is not going to be some paradise, so there's really no suspense from that angle. But the game sure doesn't offer a neat twist and turns to elevate that as a human that has experienced storytelling, I know where this going. And then when you do get to Elysium and find the twists, it really doesn't affect anything. It has no real impact. Then the ending just shits on whatever was learned in Elysium anyway. Also, another thing. The game treats this like an OMG moment, but I guess Blades after what thousands of years turn into Titans? Ok and why is this a big deal. Was this supposed to illustrate how their lives aren't immortal, but also continue to serve mankind? But Titans are dying and there seems to be very few anyway. So does this mean this hardly ever happens anyway? Also, why aren't there plenty of Titans then? Or small Titans like gramps. The hugeness of this revelation did not work for me, but I had also checked out on the story well before then. This premise and story are just shit.

And hell I hardly remember the combat.

I remember it felt slow, slower than previous games. When you switch to combat it felt like your character was now walking through water. Animation was slow and felt like it took forever. It's stupid that animation was prioritized as characters would miss out on topples and launches because they had to do go through animations. This was not true in previous games. Attacks regardless of what was going were prioritized, so the battles were quick. Auto-attack didn't stop when you moved. Leading to far better-paced battles where I was constantly trying to do positional attacks. AI was dumb and I've never felt that about ai controlled parties. Not in FFXII, Persona, or whatever. Here since setting up combos depends on your party as well, means you have to wait and pray they switch to the Blade you want them to. Meaning you can miss out and chances and moves you want to do. Because if I do a fire attack and the combo needs that next element, I have to hope the dumb AI switches to the right blade.

But then if I remember correctly the blades are random and are stuck with whoever character unlocks them. Meaning it's RNG on whoever has the right elemental make-up. Like it would be awful if a character unlocked a strong blade in a certain element when they already have that covered, But then you can't do anything to remedy the problem. I would have sucked if Rex unlocked Kos-Mos because it would be useless for him to have another light elemental. That's a shitty system and it impacts the battle system because Blade elemental make-up is how the combos work. Which really becomes the main way you power through the battles.

Why is this battle system good?
 
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What's great about it? What made the journey an overall fun experience? You want me to expand on my opinion, but you've failed to say anything beyond "I like game".

The premise of going to a heavenly land? I don't know why that generic premise is neat, but I do know the game does nothing cool with it. Anyone with a brain knows that Elysium is not going to be some paradise, so there's really no suspense from that angle. But the game sure doesn't offer a neat twist and turns to elevate that as a human that has experienced storytelling, I know where this going. And then when you do get to Elysium and find the twists, it really doesn't affect anything. It has no real impact. Then the ending just shits on whatever was learned in Elysium anyway. Also, another thing. The game treats this like an OMG moment, but I guess Blades after what thousands of years turn into Titans? Ok and why is this a big deal. Was this supposed to illustrate how their lives aren't immortal, but also continue to serve mankind? But Titans are dying and there seems to be very few anyway. So does this mean this hardly ever happens anyway? Also, why aren't there plenty of Titans then? Or small Titans like gramps. The hugeness of this revelation did not work for me, but I had also checked out on the story well before then. This premise and story are just shit.

And hell I hardly remember the combat.

I remember it felt slow, slower than previous games. When you switch to combat it felt like your character was now walking through water. Animation was slow and felt like it took forever. It's stupid that animation was prioritized as characters would miss out on topples and launches because they had to do go through animations. This was not true in previous games. Attacks regardless of what was going were prioritized, so the battles were quick. Auto-attack didn't stop when you moved. Leading to far better-paced battles where I was constantly trying to do positional attacks. AI was dumb and I've never felt that about ai controlled parties. Not in FFXII, Persona, or whatever. Here since setting up combos depends on your party as well, means you have to wait and pray they switch to the Blade you want them to. Meaning you can miss out and chances and moves you want to do. Because if I do a fire attack and the combo needs that next element, I have to hope the dumb AI switches to the right blade.

But then if I remember correctly the blades are random and are stuck with whoever character unlocks them. Meaning it's RNG on whoever has the right elemental make-up. Like it would be awful if a character unlocked a strong blade in a certain element when they already have that covered, But then you can't do anything to remedy the problem. I would have sucked if Rex unlocked Kos-Mos because it would be useless for him to have another light elemental. That's a shitty system and it impacts the battle system because Blade elemental make-up is how the combos work. Which really becomes the main way you power through the battles.

Why is this battle system good?
Wtf are saying here. I'm gripped to the story since the start, and the fact that you wrote all these nonsense while saying P5 is the magnum opus says shit about your perspective. Both are nothing special, and but I'm at least enjoyed the experience in XB2.

Stop thinking that your opinion is fact. It's shit with how hypocrite and biased you are. Just garbage. The fact that you tried to deny it makes you shittier than before. You just don't learn it seems.

I'm too lazy to elaborate about the combat. The fact that you thought the game feels slow explains everything though. You don't have a clue on what you're doing and I'm not gonna bother to explain lol. Everything is on the internet but I guess you don't need them, your opinion is fact amirite.

Really hope that next time don't bother on playing anything Xeno, you won't like it anyway and will probably moan like a braindead pig too, like what you did here.
 
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Wtf are saying here. I'm gripped to the story since the start, and the fact that you wrote all these nonsense while saying P5 is the magnum opus says shit about your perspective. Both are nothing special, and but I'm at least enjoyed the experience in XB2.
I'm saying a lot. You on the other hand are saying nothing. Also, I never said Persona 5 is a magnum opus. I said it was a good game. You on the other hand, have never actually given any sort of argument beyond "I like game". Shit about my perspective? At least I'm giving a perspective.

Stop thinking that your opinion is fact.
It is fact as far as I'm concerned and unlike you, I'm backing up my thoughts.

It's shit with how hypocrite and biased you are. Just garbage.
Everyone has a bias and I'm not a hypocrite, because unlike you I have explained my opinion. You on the other hand do nothing and then go "I'm lazy". That's lame.

The fact that you tried to deny it makes you shittier than before. You just don't learn it seems.
Dude, you have yet to come up with any sort of argument.

I'm too lazy to elaborate about the combat.
AKA you don't actually have a defense or anything to say.

The fact that you thought the game feels slow explains everything though.
Because it is factually slower than the previous XB games. You'd be lying if you said otherwise. But please instead of being lazy, how about you argue otherwise?


You don't have a clue on what you're doing and I'm not gonna bother to explain lol. Everything is on the internet but I guess you don't need them, your opinion is fact amirite.
I beat the game and I've actually explained things that are commonly said about the game. You on the other hand have not shown any understanding of the game or said anything to counter what I said. If anyone doesn't have a clue, it's you.

Really hope that next time don't bother on playing anything Xeno, you won't like it anyway and will probably moan like a braindead pig too, like what you did here.
Probably won't want to because it's now a series for incels like you. Also, can't really hold ground calling someone braindead when you are "lazy" and have put up no counterpoint other than doing this:

Stop thinking that your opinion is fact.
I guess it's ok when you do it though?

Don't waste my time if you have nothing to actually say.
 

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I'm saying a lot. You on the other hand are saying nothing. Also, I never said Persona 5 is a magnum opus. I said it was a good game. You on the other hand, have never actually given any sort of argument beyond "I like game". Shit about my perspective? At least I'm giving a perspective.


It is fact as far as I'm concerned and unlike you, I'm backing up my thoughts.


Everyone has a bias and I'm not a hypocrite, because unlike you I have explained my opinion. You on the other hand do nothing and then go "I'm lazy". That's lame.


Dude, you have yet to come up with any sort of argument.


AKA you don't actually have a defense or anything to say.


Because it is factually slower than the previous XB games. You'd be lying if you said otherwise. But please instead of being lazy, how about you argue otherwise?



I beat the game and I've actually explained things that are commonly said about the game. You on the other hand have not shown any understanding of the game or said anything to counter what I said. If anyone doesn't have a clue, it's you.


Probably won't want to because it's now a series for incels like you. Also, can't really hold ground calling someone braindead when you are "lazy" and have put up no counterpoint other than doing this:


I guess it's ok when you do it though?

Don't waste my time if you have nothing to actually say.
Woah when did I said that my opinion is fact? We had this whole post of discussions already yesterday and it amounts to nothing. What makes you think that me elaborating more of my points would actually be useful? You're just gonna stated that everything is garbage anyway, no merits whatsoever, hypocrite and biased at it's core.

P5 is shit too based on your high standard, and you still deny it, hypocrite.

You can't even hold a proper discussion yesterday without dismissing everything so I'm not gonna bother anymore. You had all the time to write all these lengthy "fact" and you can't even consider others' opinion, just go speak on a loud chamber yourself next time.
 
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Reviews pointed out too many things that bothered me so I never touched it.

The bad voice acting, the characters talking over each other in battle, the stupid pants the main character wears, the nonstop tutorials. Too many things that made the developer seem careless and unworthy.
 
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What the fuck are you talking about? There is nothing good about the game.


What was there to like here?

It wasn't the story. The story was crap. Tales level crap complete with the same sophistication of themes. Any 5 year old could tell you the some moralizing crap this game does, probably with a bit more directness and little need to keep repeating the same stuff over and over again for hours on end. I get it, life is worth living and it won't change if you refuse to not change. I get it, people need to work together. Jesus Christ did this story have the nuance of a Disney Channel kids show, except here they felt the need to have characters constantly moralize to you the player. It got extermley annoying.

And yet most of the character's had no real development. The party members were awful and for most of them after they had their little episode of development the story put them in the back of the bus, only playing lip service to them every once in a while. Good jrpgs will have their characters tied to the story, the setting, and keep them involved till the end. Not here. Once they join you're party, they are done honestly and in the end what where these character's arcs? Rex's stays an optimistic little generic anime boy the whole time. His only challenge is I guess he loses at one point. Oh boy! A character with really no personality beyond being optimistic anime boy. No challenge in life beyond keep going. No identity crisis. No real conflict. Just super boring. Nothing memorable about this character at all and his strange creepy waifu relationship is lame and otaku baity. He loves Pyra why? What is their relationship beyond "GOTTA GO TO ELYSIUM". Like there's nothing there whatsoever.
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Morag becomes useless and offers nothing after she joins you. Far more interesting as an antagonist because at least she had presence. After she joins your party she just continues to be stern anime female. Yawn inducing. I don't know why people like this character beyond their waifu fetishism. She looks stupid. She looks like Chopin from Eternal Sonata and her cool presence fades after chapter 3. But see here's another character that added nothing to the game. Here we could have seen the reflection of the world's politics as she clearly is bias towards her nation. You get a few snippets, but nothing interesting. Honestly what was her character? Did she have an arc? Did she have any conflict? No.

Zekke. Whatever. Not even a character. They don't do anything with his exiled prince aspect and the anime badass goof thing pretty much stops. But here is the perfect example of where the game basically stops to a crawl to show his backstory and then moves past it. Out of nowhere the game decides to stop what it's doing and have his backstory with Pandoria and then goes "oh were done with this episode" time to move on with the Nia stuff. It was like ok, I guess that's all this character deserves.

Pyra. Just more anime waifu crap. What was interesting about her. That she talks mysteriously about this plot(EVERYONE IN THE GAME DOES. EVERYONE ACTS LIKE THEY ARE IN THE KNOW). She seems to be hiding something? She seems to have some secret? Some agency? Whatever thats all droped midway as she becomes more interested in crushy blushy for Rex. Her character just basically becomes Rex's girlfriend and loses any aspect that made her at all somewhat ok. Even Tusandre Mythra gives up the act as the game goes on.

I don't care about the Nippon character, but at least the chapter about him was full of actually amusing anime jokes. I hate the Nippons and thier humor and va. At least Poppi was somewhat fun in a very cliche anime way.

And then Torna is just whatever. I wish I liked them, but Christ did they suck. Nomura's work here seemed very phoned in. Oh he has glasses and is the smart one! Most of them just seem like overly sad sacks with the dumbest goal ever. WE WANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD BECAUSE HUMANS ARE BAD. I almost can't belive this is a theme/story beat in the game. Constantly about how humans destroy stuff. Yes, it's never been done before, but here it pretty much stops there.

Jin/Malos: Human's are bad

Rex: Well yeah, but not always and sometimes they do good.

Jin/Malos: Wel....yeah....but eventually all they do is kill and destroy.

Rex: Yeah, but so what not everyone is like that

Jin/Malos: i guess....but BLADES aren't slaves and thats bad.

Rex: Yeah but your driver's loved you and we work as a team.

Jin/Malos: Oh well...WHATEVER

Thats almost every scene and then anyway I guess Torna realizes how dumb and angsty they sounded anyway because reasons. or rather because the story is crappy. It's funny because right before they died it was like the game frogot to develop the glasses dude and the girl and was like oh yeah they I guess had something life...IDK brother and sister because. It was like wtf are you even trying?

And then Fantasy Pope is also evil because get this bad people did bad things and I guess he should control everything because of that. Nobody saw that coming.

No one here had interesting motivations. No inserting conflicts that reveal some character substance. No villain here had a logical argument that a 12 year old couldn't see a problem with. It was the worst of anime philosophizing and it was embarrassing and tiring to listen to.

And then the sci-fi twist is stupid. In the first Xenoblade it worked. The Monodo and just general setting of the world being on two giant robot gods already establishes that the world has something going on. Here honestly the world feels like a fantasy world and even Blades aren't odd. So to throw in the connection to the first game feels so random and pointless for the story. It also doesn't add much. I guess the creator is some sad sack in a space station who's point is what? He really makes no impact on the story and changes little about the core of the story. We learn about Blades, but as a non angtsy viewer I already know Blades are people and honestly the game does a really poor job of selling the Blade conflict. Yes there's regulations on them and yes the country where they were equals was unfairly destroyed. But honestly they don't seem unfairly treated and the Driver Blade thing needs to exist anyway. The alternative doesn't really work, so honestly whats the endgame? The game brings up this problem and then basically has nothing interesting to say about it.
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And I don't know the world never felt interesting to me. But also because it's a typical jrpg world and you know what? That does not work with the scale of the Blade games. Are these supposed to be big nations and big cities? Because they just feel like JRPG worlds and in that I mean a country has one city and that's it and the city isn't big. That works in things like Tales or other jrpgs. Hell in some Tales games they have in the background the rest of the cityscape to make you feel like this city is bigger. But since Xeno games go for scale, it feels like the whole world is small and less than a million people live in it. I guess that's true, but because of that none of these places feel like what they say they are. These aren't nations. They are some small towns. Other Xeno games did'nt feel like that because well in the 1st Blade it is just a small population, likewise in XBX.

Also the environments never felt as big or grand as XBX. A lot of them felt small. A lot of them felt like linear hallways. A big valley here and there, but most of them had few interesting aspects to them. Nothing like XBX's world.

Also the whole Titans thing was lame and did'nt do anything. At no point did I ever feel like I was on something. If you took out a few sky boxes, this world would feel like generic rpg world. Nothing like realizing your on the arm of a mech god like in XB1.

As for the battle system. It was fun somewhat. It always felt slow. When you switch to combat it felt like your character was now walking through water. Animation was slow and felt like it took forever. Stupid that animation was prioritized as characters would miss out on topples and launches because they had to do their animations. AI was dumb and I've never felt that about ai controlled parties. Not in FFXII, Persona, or whatever. Here since setting up combos depends on your party as well, means you have to wait and pray they switch to the Blade you want them to. Meaning you can miss out and chances and moves you want to do.

The RNG blade system is awful. That is all. After 80 hrs I never got Kos Mos. Fuck this.

And that's it. I hated this game. This has really killed my intrests in Monolith Soft. I can't belvie they made something this awful. I mean I don't even care about how ugly the game looks. There's not a cool design in this game. NEVER HIRE THIS CHARACTER DESIGNER AGAIN. I don't even care about Pyra's tits. Whatever they are stupid, but her outfit in general looks lame. Colorful robot girl anime shit in a world where no one looks like this. Then her and Rex decide to cosplay like Kos Mos. Everyone looks like crap. The game was crap and I hope honestly the Xeno series is dead if this is what they think they can make.

This game its:

Honestly can't believe this is the spiritual successor to Xenogears/saga. Wtf happened behind the scenes at this studio.
 
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Bought one and really loving the game. Only thing I hate about it was the goddamned world map.
 

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Is this game worth it? I need someone who isn't typically into weeb games to chime in (I somewhat am, but not hard weeb).

I'm too lazy to elaborate about the combat. The fact that you thought the game feels slow explains everything though. You don't have a clue on what you're doing and I'm not gonna bother to explain lol. Everything is on the internet but I guess you don't need them, your opinion is fact amirite.
No offense dude, but you spent multiple posts trying to get the guy to elaborate on why he thinks the combat is mediocre. When he replied, you just said "too lazy to elaborate myself". That makes it seem like you don't have an argument to make.
 
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Honestly can't believe this is the spiritual successor to Xenogears/saga. Wtf happened behind the scenes at this studio.
What happened was daddy Nintendo obviously rushed them to bolster the Switch's line up since it had no big name JRPGs (there were mostly ports of older titles) and it shows this game clearly NEEDED and extra 12-24 months, calling this game's story Tales of level is insulting to Tales of where there's actual character development and acknowledgment of it and Tales of games shine in the character interaction department with their trademark skits and character quests.

Overall not a bad game per se but it clearly missed what made XB1 special.
Is this game worth it? I need someone who isn't typically into weeb games to chime in, no offense.
L O L if your going to ask that question then walk away right now.
 

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The NOE voice-overs for both Xeno 1 and 2 are amazing, people complaining about it must have been playing another game entirely. I almost always play JRPGs with the JP voice track, Xeno is one of the exceptions. I'll take Nia's delightful Welsh lilt over the generic nekomusume voice she has in JP.
 

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What happened was daddy Nintendo obviously rushed them to bolster the Switch's line up since it had no big name JRPGs (there were mostly ports of older titles) and it shows this game clearly NEEDED and extra 12-24 months, calling this game's story Tales of level is insulting to Tales of where there's actual character development and acknowledgment of it and Tales of games shine in the character interaction department with their trademark skits and character quests.

Overall not a bad game per se but it clearly missed what made XB1 special.

L O L if your going to ask that question then walk away right now.
LOL

Not my intension srs. I've heard good things about the series but the first 7 posts are people with anime avatars making it sound like the second coming of Christ. Just need to get a few more opinions. Also, I edited to make it seem a little less confrontational.
 
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Not my intension srs. I've heard good things about the series but the first like 7 posts are people with anime avi's making it sound like the second coming of Christ. Just need to get a few more opinions.

Hi, I currently do have an anime (actually, a manga) avi so please take my words with as much salt as you want.

XC2 is very anime trope-y but it is an amazing game, with a great soundtrack (Mitsuda, of Chrono Trigger/Chross fame, and other talented newcomers), a pretty decent English VO, and a fun and quite unorthodox fighting system.

I have played every game Monolith ever put out and it is one of my favorites.

Also, the female lead is basically a magical girlfriend waifu that walks around in a miniskirt - if that bothers you, I would not recommend it.
 
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LOL

Not my intension srs. I've heard good things about the series but the first 7 posts are people with anime avatars making it sound like the second coming of Christ. Just need to get a few more opinions. Also, I edited to make it seem a little less confrontational.
Are you a fan of the Xeno series? If not go play Xenoblade 1 or better yet watch some raw gameplay walk through on YouTube and form your own opinion.

As a big fan of JRPGs and the Xeno series this was a disappointment.
 

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No offense dude, but you spent multiple posts trying to get the guy to elaborate on why he thinks the combat is mediocre. When he replied, you just said "too lazy to elaborate myself". That makes it seem like you don't have an argument to make.
No. Because he thinks that the gameplay is slow, slower than past Xeno which is pure bullshit.

Because of arts cancelling etc. the combat beats are literally slashed to half compared to previous ones. Anyone who actually mastered the mechanics know what the hell is going on.

So why should I entertain him again like last time with his hypocrite narrative? He doesn't fucking know what game he played.
 
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Can't really help but wonder if I have played a completely different game than most of the complainers, our views on the game are literally worlds apart.
 
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Can't really help but wonder if I have played a completely different game than most of the complainers, our views on the game are literally worlds apart.
Indeed. I played through the game in early 2018 and loved every second of it. I think it could be favorite JRPG ever, even outclassing Xenoblade 1 and Final Fantasy IX. The success is totally deserved, and I can't wait what Monolith Soft has cooked up next.