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Yakuza Kiwami 2 |OT| It still means "Extreme" !
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Shouta
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The Steelbook seems pretty common. I got it myself when I ordered it. Maybe they don't offer the regular version in Europe? It'd be weird but a possibility.
KiteGr
Member
Well... It's not always about money.
It would look supper ugly on my shelf of standard editions. And I feel super annoyed that I'm not given the option to get a standard one.
I'll be skipping this one until they re-release it, or I get in the mood to do some shopping from the US.
It would look supper ugly on my shelf of standard editions. And I feel super annoyed that I'm not given the option to get a standard one.
I'll be skipping this one until they re-release it, or I get in the mood to do some shopping from the US.
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A.Romero
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I'm currently in chapter 5 and got to the side story related to take pictures of models. I was surprised at the balls the devs showed while implementing that mode into the game.
I really appreciate them sticking to their vision regardless of the current political climate and I'm surprised there is not more outrage at it.
The more I play it the more I'm a bit disappointed at the combat. It is very dynamic and all but doesn't feel that varied.
Is there any trick to the super heat mode? I don't seem to be able to trigger it when I want to.
Another thing,
I really appreciate them sticking to their vision regardless of the current political climate and I'm surprised there is not more outrage at it.
The more I play it the more I'm a bit disappointed at the combat. It is very dynamic and all but doesn't feel that varied.
komaki battle after learning the 4 or 5 heat movements.
Is there any trick to the super heat mode? I don't seem to be able to trigger it when I want to.
Another thing,
did they ever explain how Majima went crazy? I was expecting the girl to die and that to push Majima over the edge but he always seem so composed...
xviper
Member
finished the main story
why do people say Yakuza 2 is the best after 0 ?? some even say it's better than 0, to me it's by far the worst in the series, Sayama pretty much ruined the entire story, worst character in the entire series, after i finished the game i immediately went to Youtube and searched
outside of Ryuji, the entire cast (outside the heroes) is forgetable, even the boss fights are terrible and forgetable, the story is boring and it's all thanks to Sayama
and there is barely any plot twists, most of them are pretty obvious except for THAT one, Yakuza 0 had lots and lots of amazing plot twists that kept you on the edge of your seat
i was pretty disappointed when i found out that Majima's chapters are not part of the main story and are side content you access them from the main menu, i remember asking here on GAF if Majima's story is short or not, and someone told me that it's like Yakuza 0, every 2 chapters you switch characters, why would people do this ? what are you gaining from lying ?
i played 5 mainline Yakuza games and this is how i'd rank them best to worst
Yakuza 0 > Yakuza 4 > Yakuza 6 > Yakuza 1 > Yakuza 2
why do people say Yakuza 2 is the best after 0 ?? some even say it's better than 0, to me it's by far the worst in the series, Sayama pretty much ruined the entire story, worst character in the entire series, after i finished the game i immediately went to Youtube and searched
for "Yakuza Sayama death scene" i haven't played Yakuza 3 and i don't remember seeing her in Yakuza 4 so i figured she died in 3 which is what i hoped for, but no, they just forgot about her after Yakuza 2 which is a great decision
outside of Ryuji, the entire cast (outside the heroes) is forgetable, even the boss fights are terrible and forgetable, the story is boring and it's all thanks to Sayama
and there is barely any plot twists, most of them are pretty obvious except for THAT one, Yakuza 0 had lots and lots of amazing plot twists that kept you on the edge of your seat
i was pretty disappointed when i found out that Majima's chapters are not part of the main story and are side content you access them from the main menu, i remember asking here on GAF if Majima's story is short or not, and someone told me that it's like Yakuza 0, every 2 chapters you switch characters, why would people do this ? what are you gaining from lying ?
i played 5 mainline Yakuza games and this is how i'd rank them best to worst
Yakuza 0 > Yakuza 4 > Yakuza 6 > Yakuza 1 > Yakuza 2
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Shouta
Member
It's been a little bit since I've played 0 but 2 is the game with the thickest crime drama element, IMO. There's so many characters and things going in that it stays engaging without being unwieldy. It really keeps that atmosphere and story throughout the title without taking the peddle off the gas. It's pretty noticeable as well as I just played 4, 5, and 6 after finishing Kiwami 2 I really liked Sayama myself but I do agree she is kind of abrasive early on.
Humdinger
Member
Some of what you posted seem like story spoilers to me. Please don't post unmarked spoilers. Not everyone in the thread has finished the game (or even started it, for that matter).
Mista
Banned
E N J O Y! The Dragon engine is amazing
The release shouldn't be too far off now.
I'm interested to see how much they can optimise the dragon engine for PC. Those folks used to playing Zero/Kiwami 1 at 4k/120 fps may be in for a nasty surprise at the system requirements.
Kazza
Member
It certainly looks pretty amazing. Should look even better on PC (not that I even have a system capable of running it right now
). Will buy anyway, to show support for Yakuza on PC.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
30 euros. May 9th, indeed.
Kazza
Member
Just saw it, a lucky guess! I think that's a pretty fair price.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
I would pay 10 euros for model 2 ports of VF2 and Virtual On each.
For 10, Sega gives me a Enhanced, 4K, uncapped PS4 Dragin Engine game. This is porn.
Dragon engine PS4= Wushu/Mulan
Dragon Engine PC = Shenron/DBZ
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Kazza
Member
Although the arcades are a great feature for PS4 owners too, most of the featured games have already been released at some point or another on PS2/PS3. For PC only gamers however, it represents a first ever release on the platform. Amazing value!
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
There
(I also think Sega Rally 2 was a dreancast port at the time). Indeed, it's a pleasure having model 2 ports now and i'm pretty confident we'll have Daytona or After Burner Climax ports sooner or later. (there was Motor Raid in Judment)
Virtua Fighter 2 or Virtual On were on PC but it's saturn ports, if i'm not mistaken.
(I also think Sega Rally 2 was a dreancast port at the time). Indeed, it's a pleasure having model 2 ports now and i'm pretty confident we'll have Daytona or After Burner Climax ports sooner or later. (there was Motor Raid in Judment)
Kazza
Member
The reviews for the PC version are starting to drop. Everyone already knows how good the game is from playing the PS4 version, so I'll try to pick out the most important parts for the PC version (i.e. performance for the first dragon engine PC game):
PC World
jeuxonline
I checked a few other reviews but, surprisingly for a PC game review, they don't seem to contain any info regarding performance. Thank god for Digital Foundry, I guess (speaking of which, hopefully we'll get a DF episode, like we did with Yakuza 0)
PC World
jeuxonline
I checked a few other reviews but, surprisingly for a PC game review, they don't seem to contain any info regarding performance. Thank god for Digital Foundry, I guess (speaking of which, hopefully we'll get a DF episode, like we did with Yakuza 0)
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I've heard Kiwami is pretty lackluster and I'm just coming off the highs of Like a Dragon and 0, can I go straight to Kiwami 2? I'm pretty sure I finished the original Yakuza on PS2 so I wouldn't be missing the story completely. Is Kiwami 2 as good as 0 or better/the best of the most recent titles?
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Lionel Richie
Member
Kiwami 2 is excellent and has quite possibly the most insanely awesome final boss ever. Not sure if it's going to feel like a letdown after playing 0, I suppose it's possible. But it's a safer bet than the first Kiwami, although I greatly enjoyed that one as well.
Laconian Sword
Member
Probably the most epic ending in the whole series too. I found this installment to be pretty gripping throughout.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
ok heres what we gonna do boiz
when cyberpunk releases we gonna bump the OT to the 2nd page with yakuza threads
1st page will be all yakuza threads
lets do dis thang
when cyberpunk releases we gonna bump the OT to the 2nd page with yakuza threads
1st page will be all yakuza threads
lets do dis thang
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Finished Kiwami 2. Good game. Overall as good as 0 I suppose so around 8/10.
The fighting engine is better but it has a few really cheap bosses (but then you just go cheap yourself and use some OP weapon you saved up or have unlocked some ultimate Kiryu skill on top of too many health items to care, it's still not fun but at least it's not annoying to keep dying on them), it has a bit more open feel to the city exploration, much closer to Like a Dragon than 0, but a worse story imo. The character relationships don't really work in the time frame it spans so they feel forced and the way characters survive or die just to advance the plot struck me harder in this than others. Like, how can you fight a damn army, guns included, then have everyone at a standstill because the culript behind the whole thing appears alone, with a pistol, and they act like he has the upper hand and they can't do anything and he offs anyone and everyone as he sees fit? They just didn't make the circumstances believable. The overall story is not bad, the mysteries, the twists and turns, but the way it's presented and unfolds is. Perhaps on the PS2 original it was more understandable to fill in blanks by yourself and for cut scenes to differ much more to gameplay like this.
If Kiryu's story keeps getting worse like this maybe it's best we didn't get 3, 4, 5 and 6, we'll see. But hopefully they keep making action games like this, like Judgement or Fist of the North Star, instead of only continue with the JRPG stuff as in Like a Dragon (which is my GOTY but variety is the spice of life). They definitely need to find a way to keep interest in the action without cheap tactics that make it shallow with enemies that don't follow the rules your character adheres to in terms of how and when shit can be blocked and when you cause flinching or can use specials. They also shouldn't be scared of imposing limits in terms of food and weapons and items you can have at a time. You can hoard way too much to the point you only get any difficulty if you play while hoarding items and not even using them for the majority of the game (which is basically what I did without thinking it, then when encountering the cheap bosses I was miffed at first then I was like oh well, I got this OP shit to use, whatever). The Majima mini story, which I didn't like to play as much because his fighting style doesn't work for me, does restrict you in some ways and it's more properly challenging, like with how you can't overeat unlike with Kiryu so if you wanna heal you'll use up your healing items or deliberately go cheap yourself and wait way too long for the hunger gauge to empty again so you can eat normal food, which is you knowingly breaking the system at that point. You could still hoard actual healing items but I sent all my money to the sub story stuff it has so couldn't buy too many or anything and you only find a few scattered around. But it's a short story so.
Also, Love Virtual On with twin stick controls, though I still fail at like stage 5 or 6 on Normal, lol. Trying to 1cc it to know I'm doing better. These shots are from when Haruka wanted me to play, thankfully she was impressed with my efforts, because in Karaoke and Black Jack I totally failed, hah. More side quests and side objectives should use the arcade games, why can't Kiryu enter a Virtua Fighter 2 tournament or something, with actual "player" challengers? That'd be so rad, instead in 0 there's just that old fuck asking you to just get past stage 3 or whatever, like Haruka in this game.
The fighting engine is better but it has a few really cheap bosses (but then you just go cheap yourself and use some OP weapon you saved up or have unlocked some ultimate Kiryu skill on top of too many health items to care, it's still not fun but at least it's not annoying to keep dying on them), it has a bit more open feel to the city exploration, much closer to Like a Dragon than 0, but a worse story imo. The character relationships don't really work in the time frame it spans so they feel forced and the way characters survive or die just to advance the plot struck me harder in this than others. Like, how can you fight a damn army, guns included, then have everyone at a standstill because the culript behind the whole thing appears alone, with a pistol, and they act like he has the upper hand and they can't do anything and he offs anyone and everyone as he sees fit? They just didn't make the circumstances believable. The overall story is not bad, the mysteries, the twists and turns, but the way it's presented and unfolds is. Perhaps on the PS2 original it was more understandable to fill in blanks by yourself and for cut scenes to differ much more to gameplay like this.
If Kiryu's story keeps getting worse like this maybe it's best we didn't get 3, 4, 5 and 6, we'll see. But hopefully they keep making action games like this, like Judgement or Fist of the North Star, instead of only continue with the JRPG stuff as in Like a Dragon (which is my GOTY but variety is the spice of life). They definitely need to find a way to keep interest in the action without cheap tactics that make it shallow with enemies that don't follow the rules your character adheres to in terms of how and when shit can be blocked and when you cause flinching or can use specials. They also shouldn't be scared of imposing limits in terms of food and weapons and items you can have at a time. You can hoard way too much to the point you only get any difficulty if you play while hoarding items and not even using them for the majority of the game (which is basically what I did without thinking it, then when encountering the cheap bosses I was miffed at first then I was like oh well, I got this OP shit to use, whatever). The Majima mini story, which I didn't like to play as much because his fighting style doesn't work for me, does restrict you in some ways and it's more properly challenging, like with how you can't overeat unlike with Kiryu so if you wanna heal you'll use up your healing items or deliberately go cheap yourself and wait way too long for the hunger gauge to empty again so you can eat normal food, which is you knowingly breaking the system at that point. You could still hoard actual healing items but I sent all my money to the sub story stuff it has so couldn't buy too many or anything and you only find a few scattered around. But it's a short story so.
Also, Love Virtual On with twin stick controls, though I still fail at like stage 5 or 6 on Normal, lol. Trying to 1cc it to know I'm doing better. These shots are from when Haruka wanted me to play, thankfully she was impressed with my efforts, because in Karaoke and Black Jack I totally failed, hah. More side quests and side objectives should use the arcade games, why can't Kiryu enter a Virtua Fighter 2 tournament or something, with actual "player" challengers? That'd be so rad, instead in 0 there's just that old fuck asking you to just get past stage 3 or whatever, like Haruka in this game.
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