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Your body and gaming as you age (40+ gamers opinions' solicited, all input welcome)

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Recently turned 40 but my career and gaming habits had started to develop some RSI like symptoms last year. I did some homework and ended up buying a Kinesis Gaming Key board with the lift kit and within two weeks the discomfort I was feeling was gone. Took about that long to get used to using the damn thing so it all worked out.

Don't have any issues when playing consoles but I primarily use my Xbox Elite controller and those rear paddles have spoiled me. Enough to pick up the Power A Fusion for the Switch for the same layout.
 

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For me, the biggest issue is lack of patience as I age.

I used to be able to replay a level over and over to get good when I was a kid. Now I rage quit after one death.

Fucking guilty af of this. Gaming time is precious and there is si much I want to do and play. EZ mode is a norm for BS levels/difficulty stuff now.
 

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Most of you guys can't keep up with this hobby when you start showing age marks and being sensitive to age topic , just be healthy, being healthy is not luxury, anyone can do it, what's wrong being healthier to do more while getting older ? you can't be satisfied if you're unhealthy.
 
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DS4 streches my left middle finger towards pinky while i'm playing tense FPS games, it hurts after sometime. NHL is a bitch for my left thumb, because of genius design of sprint button(L3). I've injured my right shoulder with a racing wheel while playing Dirt Rally, full force feedback(now i'm reducing FFB strenght to 0-30, after 2 months of brake from racing). My right wrist hurts after playing too much PC games with mouse. I've solved my back pain problem with a hard wood chair, and neck pain problem with 3 books under my monitor.

I think i deserve a digital veteran medal at least:messenger_smirking: I hate physical part of gaming because i fear that i can't play them when i'm old enough.
 

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The old Metroid games are unplayable without the rewind function. Frustration is baked into the design.
 
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Man I don't want to sound like an ass (I'm 40 myself) but if playing video games takes such a toll on your body there is something wrong. I strongly suggest you to start exercising.
 

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Most of you guys can't keep up with this hobby when you start showing age marks and being sensitive to age topic
There are things that naturally begin to happen as you age, such as your reactions slowing. This in turn makes games harder, as you can't respond as quickly as you once did. You'll therefore opt to lower the difficulty or lean towards games that don't require twitch reactions.
 

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I have no 'physical' issues (I am 33), but have got massive amount of floaters in my eyes. If you dont know what they are (you are lucky!), these bastards are strands in your vision that ruin your desire to see anything. I have 100s of these. Imagine looking at everything through a severely stained bathroom window, all the time! Yupe, thats my life.
It has affected my favorite hobby- gaming, for me immensely. I just cant enjoy it the same way. These beautiful vistas and immersive environments where I want to get lost in, and all I see are 100s of these motherfuckers in my eyes. It sucks- in general life and in gaming. Its 24x7 torture.
 

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As I’ve aged, any lack of ability or concessions I’d have to make due to physical limitations from years taking their toll on me have been generally mitigated by a shift in my gaming preferences.

When I was younger, I held more of an appetite for twitch-based, reflexive experiences. Now at 43, I more enjoy slow-paced gaming. Strategy, turn-based, simulation, etc. Software that requires some thought, planning, investment, and whose payoff in gameplay doesn’t come through incredible Daigo SF III-sequel counters, but more through stalking a convoy and lining up a perfect torpedo solution in Silent Hunter IV. These are much more fulfilling gaming experiences for me presently.

Not to say I don’t enjoy the Hollow Knights, Street Fighters, etc. If a game is well done, my skills can bring sufficient parity as age hasn’t affected them detrimentally enough (yet), but these are fewer and farther between. Fortunately for me, any physical decline in my gaming abilities at age are aligning quite nicely with a change in my tastes.
 

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Cleaning the map is tiring, wouldn't recommend 1 hr for each time to play , at least 150 minutes to 3 hrs if you wanna make it count.
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Jeff Goldblum What GIF by The Late Late Show with James Corden
 

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32 here.

My gaming is purely on sofa in front of the TV with PS5 hooked up, so have no physical problems related to sitting in front of the monitor all day despite the fact my work is using PC 7.5hrs per day, have gaming chair for my work no problems with backpain etc at all

Also I’m really good swimmer (grew up 2 miles from the beach and still swimming 2-3 times per week)and decent runner, when you connect those 2 things your fitness level will be top notch. With certain health history in my family I’m doing checks every 2 years including blood tests and have results of healthy teenager.

Unfortunately my eye sight is a mess, but you can’t avoid it when you are a nerd all life to some degree 🤣

Still have a lot of patience for difficult games, don’t mind repeating the same section in Cuphead for 50th time etc
But can’t handle multiplayer at all, because everything is now so fucking serious.
Enjoyed Overwatch on the release, all it’s casual approach but at some point Blizzard decided to make it esport wanna be and started to hate it with all those idiots in every session. (Also balance patches killing all the fun as usual)
I really missed the times when we players had all the control over dedicated servers so they could create their own communities.
I swear to god, if I had chance I would break face of every little cunt shouting at everyone in multiplayer lobby.
 
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40 here, from a gaming perspective I'm not holding up that badly. Mostly mouse and keyboard. Been on a Herman Miller work from home for over a decade now, and been using a decent wrist wrest and keeping my wrists nice and straight for a while. Though I spend so much time in front of the computer that I do get tired. I only use a controller in Rocket League right now and that can get uncomfortable after very long sessions but otherwise it's fine.

I am feeling the effects of the largely sedentary computer life for sure though. Really starting to feel it in my legs more than anything. Part of it is every time I step too far away from the computer something pops up that I absolutely have to deal with for work. I really should take 3-6 months to focus on my health (yeah yeah, I know it's a lifetime commitment, but at this point it's got to be kickstarted).
 
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I'm 40. Almost zero patience and back issues. That's why I tend to stick with shooters and simpler games. Don't know about reaction times though, since I still manage to frag the crap out of salty, immature slur-throwing idiots. And boy does it feel good!

If anything, competitive games don't piss me off like they used to when I was younger. Now I don't care. It's just a stupid game.

Still looking for a good chair though, for my back pain. To hell with all those atrocious "gaming chairs". And I should probably stretch more.
 
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That's why they made Stardew Valley. It's like a retirement home for old people like me. Bloodborne would give me heart palpitations if I tried playing it now!

My dog is called Crackers and I always remember to refill his bowl every morning before watering my crops. He's a good boy.
 
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I don't really believe in age, I couldn't do mouse and keyboard gaming when I was in my 20s. Sometimes I feel great and sometimes things don't work right, it comes and goes.

I have a moderately physical job and that provides most of my wrist and elbow problems, for gaming I play RPGs more than anything. Mashing a button is a no no though, I hate kingdom hearts for that reason
 

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I'm 40. Almost zero patience and back issues. That's why I tend to stick with shooters and simpler games. Don't know about reaction times though, since I still manage to frag the crap out of salty, immature slur-throwing idiots. And boy does it feel good!

If anything, competitive games don't piss me off like they used to when I was younger. Now I don't care. It's just a stupid game.

Still looking for a good chair though, for my back pain. To hell with all those atrocious "gaming chairs". And I should probably stretch more.
I used to play a lot of CoD on pc but eventually got tired of facing cheaters game after game, year after year. Like 1 in 5 killcams was some loser with aimbot or wallhack, I miss it a lot but on pc it's a waste of time.
 

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39 and i don't think my skills are any better or worse.

But i do have less patience, even though i can handle games like Dark Souls and the like.

Playing older games i used to play as a kid on the 8bit/16bit machines is only doable for me with save states. The "lose and start over" gameloop is not for me anymore.
 
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I have suffered from carpal tunnel issues since I was 18. I have always addressed it with naprosyn, as I'm currently doing now after more significant gaming sessions then I'm used to because of poor air quality.
I've never had permanent issues from it, but it's harder to recover because I'm always on the computer at work too. Previously I would just step away from it entirely.

My rules are don't use a pc resting your wrist/elbow on anything. Cut back on gaming time when the wrist starts to get irritated. Ergonomics matter. I also force myself to type more slowly than I can, at both work and at home.

I have noticed no significant decrease in reaction time.

Posture wise I do a lot of lumbar exercises, and I do a lot of hiking, mtbing, skiing so I get a lot of core/back work from those.
 
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I used to play a lot of CoD on pc but eventually got tired of facing cheaters game after game, year after year. Like 1 in 5 killcams was some loser with aimbot or wallhack, I miss it a lot but on pc it's a waste of time.

There are the occasional cheaters, but I don't see them all too often. At least not in CoD:WWII where the player base is already kinda small. But I don't care too much about it. I just report them (pointless since Sledgehammer doesn't give a shit, but still) and move on to another lobby.

In Fortnite, however, I'm not sure I've ever faced a cheater. At least not any obvious ones.

But yeah, they suck. Made me stop playing H1Z1 some years ago.
 

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I saw this article last week and it got me thinking about gaming as you age and your physical limitations. The article is focused on reaction times, but I'm more interested in addressing your body breaking down and continuing to play.

I thought maybe we could share some information about coping with different issues and our favorite hobby as we age.

I'm 44 and my first memories of video games were arcades in the early 80s with Q-Bert, PacMan, Mario Bros, BurgerTime, etc. I suspect that if you're around my age (or older) you have probably experienced pain in your hands/arms/forearms as a result of gaming. I get muscle tension in my shoulders and in my forearms and I have tried different stretches over the years to help.

How do you cope? Stretches, ibuprofen, relaxation techniques? This guy has a pretty good channel with some stretches. I tend to grip the controller really tightly, especially with my right (dominant) hand. I would like to change that but I'm finding it difficult to focus on a challenging game and relax your body at the same time. Lately, my old ass has put a pillow under my arm as I game for support lol.

Have you been able to make changes to how you sit, grip, etc that have been beneficial?

I have never discussed this stuff with a doctor, have any of you?

I would love to get GAF's input on these things, I never see this topic discussed on the board and it feels a little more productive than bitching about Switch specs for 5 years (lol)

Like I said in the title, everyone's opinion is welcome, but people with direct experience or some sort of medical knowledge are probably in the best position to provide helpful input.
I'm 49 and have played all my life and don't get any aches or pains from gaming, my job being physical is the reason i'm fit and healthy at my age, although i don't see 49 as old as i feel stronger than when i was 25. Age is just a number as far as i'm concerned.
 

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I would say it depends on your health and your habits. If you drink alcohol, smoke, etc you're forcing your body to degrade faster than what intended, with the lack of activity and good food as well.

To me at 35 I'm at my prime in gaming, and getting better.

All due respect but this sounds exactly like a 35 year old haha. I remember this stage.

Let's see you feel in 6 years!
 
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Yeah I had that for a long time. For me, planning things out helped. Like, if I'm awful at something, I try to turn off the part of my brain saying, "this should be easy" or "this is unfair" and try to turn on the part that asks "how does this WORK?"



I'm fortunate because I'm divorced (lol) and I have all the time I need to play games. It doesn't hurt that my gear is a lot better than it was in the 90s lol that keeps me engaged.



Yes, I relate to all of this. I have tried to NARROW my gaming interests the past few years because there are so many cool toys to try lol. But focusing on a few games for me facilitates learning games and enjoying them. I started thinking about playing games vs surfing forums or watching videos about games, and then trying to convert that time to actually playing.


This is an interesting idea because for me, playing with the Switch JoyCons split is very comfortable. I still grip too hard with my right hand but holding my arms in position creates muscle tension for me after a while

Thats my issue. I spend so much time on the internet, namely here or other on forums, instead of actually playing games. I have admitted to myself doing so is okay when I'm on the toilet, but it isn't just limited to that as I find myself spending hours a day on forums... Which I know isn't good.
 

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Closing in on 40. I play as much as ever, if not more, but my body needs rest from longer sessions. I try to play shorter sessions (up to an hour), then I try to move around. Go out for a walk, do chores, or use dumbbells. There are also other exercises that you can do. Stretching, and so on. After that, I can play again. Make sure to also have a good chair for your computer gaming. I can't stress that enough.
 

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I'm almost 40 and controllers haven't been to bad to my hands except for the switch. What aggravates my thumb especially is using my smartphone too much. I've been more mindful of that the last few years.
 

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Do pilates or yoga at home, put YouTube on and do a session each day in the morning. It will change your life in that amount of time e.g. months. Also look up walking routines and "superman pose", it helps to get your posture and no soreness back. Once that's in check start some basic weight or body weight exercises targeting your core and back. Your gaming comfort will thank you too.
Thanks for the advice, I'll give this a try.
 

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39 and i don't think my skills are any better or worse.

But i do have less patience, even though i can handle games like Dark Souls and the like.

Playing older games i used to play as a kid on the 8bit/16bit machines is only doable for me with save states. The "lose and start over" gameloop is not for me anymore.
I think it relates to different time line more than ageism , I don't believe every issue is tied with ageism.
 
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I have no 'physical' issues (I am 33), but have got massive amount of floaters in my eyes. If you dont know what they are (you are lucky!), these bastards are strands in your vision that ruin your desire to see anything. I have 100s of these. Imagine looking at everything through a severely stained bathroom window, all the time! Yupe, thats my life.
It has affected my favorite hobby- gaming, for me immensely. I just cant enjoy it the same way. These beautiful vistas and immersive environments where I want to get lost in, and all I see are 100s of these motherfuckers in my eyes. It sucks- in general life and in gaming. Its 24x7 torture.

Mate I feel your post. I hope you can talk with a specialist and perhaps some laser surgery or similar with your extreme case to improve things for you. Nothing but best wishes, we take our eyesight for granted.
 

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I'm 40 now and I certainly seem to be a touch slower. I also get a bit of discomfort in my hands but as I rarely have as much time as I would like I can't say it is the games fault. Typically when I game, I sit down with a whisky and play for a bit till the kids or wife need something.

Best advice I can give is to buy a good chair! Don't cheap out. Really focus on posture.
 

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Mate I feel your post. I hope you can talk with a specialist and perhaps some laser surgery or similar with your extreme case to improve things for you. Nothing but best wishes, we take our eyesight for granted.

There are treatments to fix this, one is surgical the other uses lasers. Laser is the most common nowadays:


Thank you bros for your wishes and post. Yes I am aware of the surgeries (have done immense research on this :p). Laser doesnt work much. It mostly breaks down the big floaters into small ones and may cause even more in rare cases.
The other one, vitrectomy, is a reasonably major surgery that doctors often try not to do just for floaters. Apart from the fact that its an eye surgery, its guaranteed that after the surgery cataracts will develop in the eyes pretty soon, which will require their own (minor) surgery again. And of course there is the usual 1% chance of something going wrong and losing eye completely.
But I have been researching on it past few years and there have been advances and there are many testimonies on youtube where things went pretty good and people are floater free.
I cant even describe how I would feel if I ever became floater free. A new world and life for me. I would be able to go out again, look at the sky, at the sea, at the snow and nature again. And of course, enjoy video games too.
 

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My reflexes and reaction time actually got better in videogames the more i aged.
Maybe it has to do with the fact i rarely played action games, as a teen, i was more in strategy, point and click, simulators kind of games.
Since the original Demon's Souls came out on PS3 it awaken my self competitive side to surpass challenges, and practice makes perfect and i just feel games that use parry systems and dodge mechanics that need to be timed precisely, im pretty got at those now, much more than ever before.

I lost alot of patience to dealing with certain stuff. PVP just dosent interest me anymore, only co-op is the only multiplayer i can still deal with.

My back is showing its age, there was a few years that i had massive back pains but managed to correct the way i seated and pains went away. Crossing my legs and leaning to a side was a bad habit i had, now i just sit straight if i play on computer or lay back with cushion support for my back to play on TV and can play like this for many hours.
 

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I will turn 51 in September. I still try and exercise 30 minutes a day, so I honestly haven't ever noticed anything physically challenging about playing video games. In fact, I have relied on video games like Wii Fit and (most recently) Ring Fit Adventure to help me do my 30 minutes of exercise a day during the winter months. I was just reading about exercise game options, as I would like to play something new this winter to give me something to look forward to on the days when exercising in my living room is my only real option.
 

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Apart from the fact that its an eye surgery, its guaranteed that after the surgery cataracts will develop in the eyes pretty soon, which will require their own (minor) surgery again.
In that case I'd get the floaters removed and acrylic lenses installed during the same surgery, two fixes one procedure. I wish you luck in however you approach this issue. I have some annoying floaters of my own, though they are not as debilitating as yours, I do understand why these are such annoying little bastards.
 

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For me, the biggest issue is lack of patience as I age.

I used to be able to replay a level over and over to get good when I was a kid. Now I rage quit after one death.
I used to rage after one death then too. Cheap shot gameplay from NES games.

As for the OPs's question, I now got arthritis so button-smashing games are out for me now. I loved NieR's auto-battle and would like to see more QoL options, in this case for real life.
 

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Yeah I’m 42 and I find now that whenever I really get into a game and play it daily I end up with hand/wrist/forearm pain before too long. It tends to go when I take a break but it’s definitely something I have to consider now and it makes me stop playing before I’d ideally like to at times. I find that games that expect you to hold in a button down for a long time for a particular action (like the accelerator in a racing game or to click the left stick down to run etc) are the worst for it.
 

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I hear a lot of people through the years try stretching or training for there wrist to not fuck up playing for years, but the reality is it isn't helping for the simple fact that muscles don't work this way.

I got a lot of experience with muscle training through my decade + of triathlon and frankly even sitting behind a PC is the same thing. Its a endurance sport for your wrists most of all and people don't realize this which results iin them fucking there wrist even further up.

Think about, running for a few hours and your muscles are completely sore, then u think well maybe i need to power train those muscles with heavy lifting because that will relax them. Uh no aint happening u will just injure yourself more and harder.

I had friends of mine that had issue's playing games for long periods of time because of wrist pain. And frankly the solution to this isn't training its adjusting the way u play it.

Some games are brutal on the wrists. For example dragonballz kakarot with a keyboard and mouse = relocate buttons. Shift pressing 1234 and press F or something like that will stretch your muscles in your wrist excessively and make it itch after a while. What u need to do is relocate keys to make sure your pinky isn't getting stretched and your hand is in a resting state again always with easy to press buttons with barely any movement. This is why i hate games that require 90% of the time pressing a button to run. running should just be default it and heavy combinations of shift + 1234 and then FRG buttons need to be banned already from ever being a thing.

BDO is a good example of this, absolute a pain to play on a keyboard and mouse and kills wrists because your left hand is in constant tension.

But now lets talk about the wrist on the mouse which is probably people's biggest problem.

I put a few pictures together to showcase why muscles get fucked, and if you see it like this it makes total sense if you actually understand what the muscles are doing and performing.

Here are good examples.



Why is this bad? your wrist wasn't made to be holded in a stressed bend state for hours.all the muscles around the wrist will be in a tension state. U are basically doing heavy endurance on your wrist. And if you do this without proper recovery time your muscles will get fucked to the point your whole arm will be resting on your bursas which will also get fucked and yea gg then.



Also bad, mouse is way to big, hand can't fit around it propperly or over it which result in tension on the wrist even while support is good.



Again bad, all the weight of your arm rests on your wrist.



Also bad, your wrist gets pulled down and stretched by having to support your entirely arm.



Bad why?, get rid of those things under his wrist, it puts pressure on them from below which u shouldn't want to have at any moment specially when muscles need to run free.

What''s a good way for your wrist to function well? Right support for your arm.




This is actaully really good how she supports her arm. her arm is basically resting on her elbow area and the weight of her arm isn't pressuring on her wrist at all. If she would put her arm more forwards instead of sharp bend like that, and have a better mouse position her wrists will never tire. as there is no pressure on it its in a rest state.




Another good example, good support for the arm sadly absolute dog shit mouse position which is still going to slam his wrist into the pain game. But arm is propperly supported, no pressure on the wrist and that's what u want ( pure arm here everything else is bad ) even that support thingy under his wrist.

Then we get to the mouse part where your wrist also gets taxed like hell.

How do you not hold a mouse examples:








Why not? insane tension on your fingers that burn your muslces to the ground. Your arm and wrist needs to feel they are in a relaxed state and this is stressing the muscles on the wrist out like nothing else.

How to hold a mouse right:



Now look at the fingers and wrist, what do you see? its almost like they are sleeping. There is no stress on your fingers, there is no stres on your arm, there is no stress on your wrist. Your wirst doesn't even know its been used. put your entire fingers over the mouse keys and press with the entire finger not just the top of your finger. If you got big hands on a small mouse this is also fine.

I am talking here about the opening from mouse away from the palm, the fingers here aren't propperly supported by the mouse but its a example of just that, his actual position is bad because his fingers should be over the mouse or ontop of the mouse buttons.



Basically stop ramming the mouse into your palm, let only your fingers rest on it. .

Then about support stuff like this.





Absolute garbage, even the green picture, just look at the insane stress on he wrist as the entire arm + hand is now resting on it. this is a good way to get wrist problems.

In short everything together this is the best position by far and it will result in absolute zero stress on your wrist or any of your fingers or your arm, it feels like for your muscles that they are sleeping.



The arm not in a straight line downwards which put a lot of pressure on the arm if you do its in a bend state forwards like this. which means the majority of weight is going on the table and the muscles are in a optimal relax state + blood flow is by far the best. Her hand is in a pure relaxed state and basically just resting on a mouse with movements once in a while and honestly that arm will never tire. And she will never get injury's.

Now obvously her sitting position is utter trash but that's a chair thing. This is purely arm.

Now lets move to chair position.

This is almost perfect. ( screen needs to be higher up so he doesn't have to look down or a bigger screen entirely would be better )



total back support, head support, arms are well located. table which gives the best arm support u can get for a mouse. In short this guy will sit there for 4 hours stand up and walk straight out of the building without any problems. And can do this forever because no muscles in his body are getting stressed.

Yes a propper chair ( don't buy those gamer chairs they are horrible ) costs you money. Mine that i currently got costed me 2-3 grand. However u look at it this way. if you spend more time on a chair then anywhere else then why would you not spend money on it.

I bike 15k km's a year, i don't buy a shitty as bike, i buy a bike that has everything specially designed and costed me 8 grand. But that's insane for a bike ? not when u spend more time on it then in your car. it becomes a whole different ball game.




in short from what i notice, a lot of people get injuries or pains or feel like they are getting older and that's probably the case. well yes it is the case because your recovery is far slower. When i was 18, i could basically run and be recovered the next day, now i am 35 i need my rest or i need suppliments to push my body in to a faster recovery state. However with the propper position and tools u will never tire or get injured.

Invest some time and money and your life will improve massively.
One of the best posts in this forum ever! Really nice.
 
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Least I'm not alone lol....the major impacts

1. Time - Makes Easy Mode a friendlier option as sometimes you just want to progress

2. Energy - Just don't have it in me to play for several hours straight... maybe 2 hours max but too much other stuff to do

3. Genres - I grew up playing competitive Online FPS shooters, it's the one game I no longer have any interest in, I'm convinced there isn't a competitive Online FPS that's not rampant with cheating to the point where I don't have (see 1 and 2) the time and energy to commit to git gud at a game that's bogged down with fake losers to begin with

4. Youtube - I admit this.....there's more content than time and most of it isn't really that fun. I've reached a point where I make a decision if I'm not 100% down for a play through, I'll likely watch it played on youtube. Is there that much difference between watching a story streamlined versus having to press 'a' through dialogue for a sub par action game?

5. Consoles - I'm an adult with money and as such can buy any piece of gaming equipment I want. Consoles have never been anything more than a glorified PC with a custom OS but that is becoming less and less as you're seeing the shift for almost all games coming to PC. As we age we also need to come to terms with the reality of our hardware. Consoles are for kids and limited minded folk. If you're into games and you don't play gaming on a PC, you're still just a kid.
 

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37 here, and I typically make time to play anywhere between 1-4+ hours a day. I haven't noticed anything too much when it comes to my body. I was REALLY good about working out M-F for the longest time, now it's like 3 days a week, but I plan on shaking that up to just feel better as I know that will certainly help. Quarantine really didn't help with that too much. Just got to get a new solid schedule in place.

When quarantine started I was working from home and got a little peddling device to use so that I can at least be moving in SOME way majority of the day. It's been nice to say the least. Also got more gym equipment at home to make up for not being able to hit up a gym. So, up and up!

The only real "issue" I've experienced over the last 5+ years has been this off and on feeling of, "I don't know what to play". Which, at this point I've just accepted. It's happened a lot over the years. It's less of a "I don't know", and more of a "everything just kind of looks the same" kind of feeling. I still get SUPER excited about some releases, and I love that. I just don't think it happens nearly as often as it used to, but that's not necessarily a ME thing per se, at least one I can control or change. It's just I haven't been genuinely interested in a lot of the titles releasing.

Just kind of amusing to me to be 37 and feel like I'm already repeating, "Man, games were so much better back in _________."
 

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I'm 46, and although I used to really enjoy fighting games and the occasional first-person shooter...my reaction times aren't what they used to be. I just don't really enjoy competitive games in general much anymore these days (although Knockout City has been really fun.)

Getting old isn't great, but I'm thankful I can still enjoy games in general without much pain. :)
 
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I hear a lot of people through the years try stretching or training for there wrist to not fuck up playing for years, but the reality is it isn't helping for the simple fact that muscles don't work this way.

I got a lot of experience with muscle training through my decade + of triathlon and frankly even sitting behind a PC is the same thing. Its a endurance sport for your wrists most of all and people don't realize this which results iin them fucking there wrist even further up.

Think about, running for a few hours and your muscles are completely sore, then u think well maybe i need to power train those muscles with heavy lifting because that will relax them. Uh no aint happening u will just injure yourself more and harder.

I had friends of mine that had issue's playing games for long periods of time because of wrist pain. And frankly the solution to this isn't training its adjusting the way u play it.

Some games are brutal on the wrists. For example dragonballz kakarot with a keyboard and mouse = relocate buttons. Shift pressing 1234 and press F or something like that will stretch your muscles in your wrist excessively and make it itch after a while. What u need to do is relocate keys to make sure your pinky isn't getting stretched and your hand is in a resting state again always with easy to press buttons with barely any movement. This is why i hate games that require 90% of the time pressing a button to run. running should just be default it and heavy combinations of shift + 1234 and then FRG buttons need to be banned already from ever being a thing.

BDO is a good example of this, absolute a pain to play on a keyboard and mouse and kills wrists because your left hand is in constant tension.

But now lets talk about the wrist on the mouse which is probably people's biggest problem.

I put a few pictures together to showcase why muscles get fucked, and if you see it like this it makes total sense if you actually understand what the muscles are doing and performing.

Here are good examples.



Why is this bad? your wrist wasn't made to be holded in a stressed bend state for hours.all the muscles around the wrist will be in a tension state. U are basically doing heavy endurance on your wrist. And if you do this without proper recovery time your muscles will get fucked to the point your whole arm will be resting on your bursas which will also get fucked and yea gg then.



Also bad, mouse is way to big, hand can't fit around it propperly or over it which result in tension on the wrist even while support is good.



Again bad, all the weight of your arm rests on your wrist.



Also bad, your wrist gets pulled down and stretched by having to support your entirely arm.



Bad why?, get rid of those things under his wrist, it puts pressure on them from below which u shouldn't want to have at any moment specially when muscles need to run free.

What''s a good way for your wrist to function well? Right support for your arm.




This is actaully really good how she supports her arm. her arm is basically resting on her elbow area and the weight of her arm isn't pressuring on her wrist at all. If she would put her arm more forwards instead of sharp bend like that, and have a better mouse position her wrists will never tire. as there is no pressure on it its in a rest state.




Another good example, good support for the arm sadly absolute dog shit mouse position which is still going to slam his wrist into the pain game. But arm is propperly supported, no pressure on the wrist and that's what u want ( pure arm here everything else is bad ) even that support thingy under his wrist.

Then we get to the mouse part where your wrist also gets taxed like hell.

How do you not hold a mouse examples:








Why not? insane tension on your fingers that burn your muslces to the ground. Your arm and wrist needs to feel they are in a relaxed state and this is stressing the muscles on the wrist out like nothing else.

How to hold a mouse right:



Now look at the fingers and wrist, what do you see? its almost like they are sleeping. There is no stress on your fingers, there is no stres on your arm, there is no stress on your wrist. Your wirst doesn't even know its been used. put your entire fingers over the mouse keys and press with the entire finger not just the top of your finger. If you got big hands on a small mouse this is also fine.

I am talking here about the opening from mouse away from the palm, the fingers here aren't propperly supported by the mouse but its a example of just that, his actual position is bad because his fingers should be over the mouse or ontop of the mouse buttons.



Basically stop ramming the mouse into your palm, let only your fingers rest on it. .

Then about support stuff like this.





Absolute garbage, even the green picture, just look at the insane stress on he wrist as the entire arm + hand is now resting on it. this is a good way to get wrist problems.

In short everything together this is the best position by far and it will result in absolute zero stress on your wrist or any of your fingers or your arm, it feels like for your muscles that they are sleeping.



The arm not in a straight line downwards which put a lot of pressure on the arm if you do its in a bend state forwards like this. which means the majority of weight is going on the table and the muscles are in a optimal relax state + blood flow is by far the best. Her hand is in a pure relaxed state and basically just resting on a mouse with movements once in a while and honestly that arm will never tire. And she will never get injury's.

Now obvously her sitting position is utter trash but that's a chair thing. This is purely arm.

Now lets move to chair position.

This is almost perfect. ( screen needs to be higher up so he doesn't have to look down or a bigger screen entirely would be better )



total back support, head support, arms are well located. table which gives the best arm support u can get for a mouse. In short this guy will sit there for 4 hours stand up and walk straight out of the building without any problems. And can do this forever because no muscles in his body are getting stressed.

Yes a propper chair ( don't buy those gamer chairs they are horrible ) costs you money. Mine that i currently got costed me 2-3 grand. However u look at it this way. if you spend more time on a chair then anywhere else then why would you not spend money on it.

I bike 15k km's a year, i don't buy a shitty as bike, i buy a bike that has everything specially designed and costed me 8 grand. But that's insane for a bike ? not when u spend more time on it then in your car. it becomes a whole different ball game.




in short from what i notice, a lot of people get injuries or pains or feel like they are getting older and that's probably the case. well yes it is the case because your recovery is far slower. When i was 18, i could basically run and be recovered the next day, now i am 35 i need my rest or i need suppliments to push my body in to a faster recovery state. However with the propper position and tools u will never tire or get injured.

Invest some time and money and your life will improve massively.
I can’t argue with any of this ergonomics advice, lots of great ideas.

I have to disagree with you sonmewhat on the strength training. I’ve found, without a doubt, that strength training with proper form absolutely improves joint health and helps with general body aches. If you over-do it or use bad form, sure you may get injured. But done the right way it makes a huge difference.

I used to have iffy knees along with lower back pain, and doing barbell squats and deadlifts has eliminated this from my life. My grip, wrists, and forearms naturally get strong through deadlifts, bench, and overhead press. It’s not a magic bullet but I think proper strength training is essential along with ergonomics.
 

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All I do nowadays is play jrpgs in comparison to any others because at least it'll allow me to just sit back and think and strategize how I want to attack an enemy instead of just randomly pushing button and having to have Precision with my jumping abilities. Most JRPGs are not like platformer where you have to be precise with your jumping ability. Although I am strictly a jrpg gamer I'm considering abandoning JRPG'S all together because I feel like I'm outgrowing them and I am getting bored with them. If anything I'm a considering jumping into the visual novel genre that has games like Famicom Detective Club, Trace Memory, Hotel Dust, and life is strange. Games where it does not take any skill whatsoever to get through the game. As I get older games are becoming way too difficult for me to be sitting there losing my life over and over again, playing the same levels or battling the same bosses over and over again just to progress. Psychologically I'm a old man at this point in my life and I just don't have the patience for the vast majority of games in the industry anymore.
 
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I am an older gamer, but my body is in pretty good shape. No physical complaints.

My issue is that as I age I just start losing the desire to play games. After a long stressful day often I just want to veg out on my phone or watching TV. I still enjoy it when I actually do play, it just takes more to get me in the mood.
 

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The funniest comment in this thread is the one who constantly falling asleep during loading screen