Is ZombiU over 100k in NA?
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Yves Guillemot: ZombiU Wasn't Profitable, not even close, no sequel planned
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Is ZombiU over 100k in NA?
This is bad news, but I don't know that it's all Nintendo's fault.
Ubisoft could have made things easier on themselves by not calling the game ZombiU. I realize why they named it that, and to the informed gamer it probably doesn't make a difference, but to your average Joe-Walmart it probably sounds like a crappy piece of shovelware.
Also, despite this game having a very focal fan base and good word of mouth among gamers, it didn't really review all that great.
Still, this is bad news.
Ubisoft could have made things easier on themselves by not calling the game ZombiU. I realize why they named it that, and to the informed gamer it probably doesn't make a difference, but to your average Joe-Walmart it probably sounds like a crappy piece of shovelware.
Also, despite this game having a very focal fan base and good word of mouth among gamers, it didn't really review all that great.
Still, this is bad news.
Seems like Ubi is setting the stage for saying goodbye to WiiU after this holydays. That would be the finishing blow for a console that would only recieve games based on just Nintendo games (if Warner follows the Ubi lead).
If that ends up happening I really don't think Nintendo can put out games every single month... or that it's worth it.
It's sad, because I'm sure Nintendo will release some fantastic games that will be esentially lost on a console that neither the public or the publishers want to support.
I really hope Nintendo snaps out of it soon and creates a truely atractive console for everyone both public and developers and port their WiiU games to that...
If that ends up happening I really don't think Nintendo can put out games every single month... or that it's worth it.
It's sad, because I'm sure Nintendo will release some fantastic games that will be esentially lost on a console that neither the public or the publishers want to support.
I really hope Nintendo snaps out of it soon and creates a truely atractive console for everyone both public and developers and port their WiiU games to that...
or to consoles that have a bigger intalled base even if they are not Nintendo's. Yeah, you'll jump over me for saying this, I know. Sorry.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
In a perfect world, things like The Evil Within will support Vita as a second screen in an interesting way.
The fact that there is a shit ton of zombies related games isn't helping Zombi U at all.
There are so much a title like "Zombi U" isn't going to be noticed unless there's a mass campaign for it, what differentiates this "Zombi" games from others?
akidnamededdy
Banned
Yeah, because Ubi had any way of knowing how the Wii U would end up before launch...
I gotta agree with some of the points already brought up. The game had a super generic title, shovelware-calibre box art, and I wouldn't be surprised if you told me it had literally zero marketing done in the US. On top of that, it wasn't exactly a visual stunner.
It was fun though, and scary. Bummer.
As for what EA said...whatever. I have a hard time taking anything they say about Wii U seriously ever since they released Mass Effect 3 at full price weeks after the complete trilogy was released on 360.
well duh but you didn't specify that either
though 1.3+ million outside of the US does seem odd, especially since wii u is doing even worse in EuropeThe only thing I'd miss in a multiplat version would be the voice coming through the pad. That can be solved with a headset though. I'd buy a PS3/4/V version in a heartbeat.
Stick a fork in it, it's done.
Stick a fork in it, it's done.
ZedIndyLil
Member
Ooof. I assume Red Steel did NOT have this problem. Interesting to find out this directly led to the Rayman decision.
Really a bummer how Nintendo cocked things up with the Wii U's launch year. Hope they can turn it around.
Really a bummer how Nintendo cocked things up with the Wii U's launch year. Hope they can turn it around.
i guess so
however, in my normal mode playthrough i never once was ambushed while going through my bag
not once
i dont even recall SEEING a zombie while ever rummaging through my bag
and i died like 14 times on that playthrough
although 5 were for that FUCKING STUPID GAME SHOW STYLE SURVIVAL SECTION
Synth_floyd
Banned
What 3rd parties does the WiiU even have left? I wonder how much longer Nintendo will support the WiiU at this rate and what kind of followup system they will release.
Shit. No wonder why no one wants to support it.
Because it was down to $40 new here in Australia and i KNOW im picking up a WiiU eventually so why not.
I watched a few reviews and Lets Plays and decided this would be to good to pass up.
With ZombiU it was creating a not particularly great title for a platform that does not only sell badly but which also does not have an audience interested in this type of games. It also wasn't helpful that they didn't make it a light-hearted Rabbids game, even Iwata and Miyamoto know that you need a well-established family-appealing franchise to sell high numbers on a Nintendo platform.
Ninja Scooter
Member
it doesn't "sound like", it IS. Gamecube actually had a good first few months and then tailed off. Wii U is selling like dog shit in that same period. It's barely neck and neck with the fucking VITA in that same time period. The system is a disaster and Nintendo are delusional if they think throwing more Mario and Zelda at the problem will fix it. It didn't help Gamecube.
So the only good launch title and game on the system (outside MonHun) was a failure. Can't blame third parties for ignoring the thing when the userbase is ignoring great games because they don't feature a Nintendo logo on the box. Absolutely disgusting.
At this rate I doubt both PG titles will cross 1m combined. Poor Kamiya.
At this rate I doubt both PG titles will cross 1m combined. Poor Kamiya.
Father_Brain
Banned
Truly an amazingly pathetic failure. AUDIENCE CULTIVATION MATTERS.
dragonflys545
Member
Ouch... Saw this coming, next up I think Splinter Cell, AC black flag bomba for the Wii U.
He's also implying that the console tanked during its first holiday, which is debatable to say the least.
MikeE21286
Member
...and give it a better online component
well duh but you didn't specify that either
Nintendo just reports shipments, not sales to customers. If NSMBU is at 700k in the US, and 500k in Japan, there are clearly a bunch of unsold copies floating around since EU is not going to make up the 1 million unit difference to get us to the number in Nintendo's last fiscal report.
illmatic19
Member
"Don't cry for me, I'm already dead..."
diffusionx
Gold Member
No, choice of platform doomed the game.
Marketing isn't a panacea. I thought ZombiU looked awesome, not gonna buy a Wii U for it though. I'll buy it if they put it on a platform I own, though, which is everything but Wii U. Literally.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
GTAV is not launching on the Wii U and AFAIK multi home console owners are a small minority so it doesn't even matter.
Ninja Scooter
Member
or just put Mario in your game, since that is all the tiny Wii U audience seems to want to buy.
It's astounding to me that people will find every excuse under the sun to blame everyone else for the Wii U's struggles except Nintendo.
That is sad news, but I'm surprised Ubisoft decided to commit all of its upcoming titles to Wii U when it knows in the back of its mind, that its games more than likely sell poorly on it. Then come 2014, Ubisoft will reduce its software support for the platform considerably. Nintendo will basically be butt naked in the cold without that amount of software support from any one third party company. Nintendo's got an uphill battle to keep on climbing. It won't look good if there's another big software drought next year.
I'm not sure how much better you can really make the online components it already has, to be honest. The player zombies and leaderboards work just fine, and the messaging system works and is only hindered by the fact that it's too obtuse to read with the decision to strictly use symbols, many of which look very similar to one another. A co-op component wouldn't gel well with the game as is, I think.
IdreamofHIME
Member
It's PEGI 18, that would quite illegal.
Synth_floyd
Banned
Nintendo released expensive, last gen hardware with few 3rd party games, bad marketing and few quality 1st party titles. Thus it is failing.
I think the main reason for its failure so far is that Nintendo took the playbook from the Wii and just copied and pasted it to the WiiU. The Wii was a one-off, lightning in a bottle, zeitgeist of a success. They are trying and failed to recreate that success with WiiU and are facing the unfortunate consequences.
I think the main reason for its failure so far is that Nintendo took the playbook from the Wii and just copied and pasted it to the WiiU. The Wii was a one-off, lightning in a bottle, zeitgeist of a success. They are trying and failed to recreate that success with WiiU and are facing the unfortunate consequences.
Felix Lighter
Member
The game looked like it had some interesting concepts. From gameplay videos I've seen it looked like it could use a little iterating on those concepts while not under the pressure of trying to make a console launch. Very unfortunate.
:Motorbass
Member
Craaaap. I bought it and was looking to online Multiplayer in the sequel. Oh man.
DragonSworne
Banned
The fact that it was the only playable demo at Wii U kiosks is baffling. How ever managed the instore demo units needs to be fired. -_-
Gross exaggeration? No. Most of the first wave of big U.S reviews were bad, Gamespot 4.5 out of 10, Game Informer 5.00, EGM 5.5, Gamesradar 3 out of 5, Machinima 6/10, IGN 6.3, Gametrailers 6.5, Edge mag 7/10. Most other reviews are in the 8s, with only a couple of 9/10s from Official Nintendo mag, Eurogamer and Joystiq. The game has a 77 sub-80/100 rating on meta which EA claims is essential for healthy sales. Gamespot, Game Informer, EGM, Gamesradar, IGN and Gametrailers are the big US sites that trashed it. You would not expect any game that reviewed like that to sell well in the U.S at least. It's nice when they do but you can't expect it to.
fart town usa
Gold Member
No.
ZombiU may have had an erratic development cycle but it's a damn good game and should be praised that against all odds, they created something unique, scary and FUN.
The websites that gave it mediocre reviews didn't understand how the game is meant to be played. It's a very deliberate game and isn't like L4D or Dead Island, games that many people compared it to. The game is essentially the original Resident Evil in first person. It's brilliant and anyone who can't figure this out is missing out on one hell of a game.