Is it that bad? Retail is only down 1%.
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Is it that bad? Retail is only down 1%.
jiminycracken
Banned
I'd buy a reasonably priced gaming Surface.
That's only standard ed. LP sold almost 409k
anexanhume
Member
No game on that list was new in December either. It's just a drought right now.
Yeah, that's what I was saying in the "did wii win" thread. Last gen sales were never going to keep going at the same rate. As for passing the Wii, 40 new million consoles sold starting now that aren't the PS4 or X1? Yeah right....
But on topic:
3DS is dying...help, Rusty.
I'd agree with almost all of this, but I think the Xbox project will survive due to inertia.
They aren't going to sell Xbox to anyone as there's hardly anyone capable of buying it and running it bar Samsung and one or two other tech firms, and there's no reason that any of those firms would want a loss-making business in an area (under-TV box) no longer seen as mission-critical.
At the same time, I really feel like Xbox is too big to kill outright. Too many employees, and too much bad publicity among young men if you kill it.
So while it won't be any kind of priority, I think it'll limp along for the rest of the gen as best they can. When it comes to next gen, that will entirely depend on where we stand, and we can't see that yet. Xbox might become a service streamed to TVs from Surface tablets or something like that. I agree that we may never see a proper successor to Xbox, but far too much is left to play out to make any kind of prediction there.
I think the biggest point, though, is that Xbox was Microsoft's trojan into the living room, and the battle ended up shifting to people's pockets and personal screens. There's not much point in fielding an army to a battlefield you no longer believe is important.
pieatorium
Member
I'm sure cod sold more than 330k including digital too. It's all kind of moot anyway since the biggest game of Jan 07 wasn't even mentioned by NPD
Aquamarine
Member
Nintendo's retail sales are down 83% from December and down 34% from last January.
reptilescorpio
Member
HigherLevel
Member
So much overreaction. Gaming is fine. Console sales may go down slightly but not enough to worry. There is just a lack of software to drive people to spend a lot of money on new consoles. If sales are like this in the fall(which they won't be), then you can actually worry.
pieatorium
Member
Exactly. NPD game sales are rather meaningless in the DD age. I buy a lot of games and although I'm not 100% digital, I'm heading that way. If people are spending 30% of their gaming dollars on DD, it will make NPD look depressing.
I didn't know this, good to know.
njean777
Member
Or maybe everybody spent their christmas load and not everybody can go out and buy games right now? Still a little early to be crystal balling.
i wonder if amazon would just eat up all the xbox stuff up if it came down to it.
It's the social media. When MS decided to screw over the customers, everyone in the know went to social media and blasted the Hell out of MS. No amount of PR can salvage awful word-of-mouth. MS thought they can treat the customers like dirt and they'll just come back and eat up what they offer. They're wrong. Everyone in the know informs their family and friends about MS' fuck-ups and their attempt at coverup and deceptions. Their family/friends told other family/friends and so on and so forth.
A long time ago a company's bad deed is filtered between traditional media (which will censored things based on their self-interest as shown by various gaming media's pro MS slant before MS' turnaround) and the mass audience. But with social media in play, information is no longer dripped from one channel but from various sources, most of which have far more influence over the general mass because those sources are their trusted family and friends.
This post... So parts in the PS4 are cheap?
pieatorium
Member
Titanfall shuldnt be looked at as the big indicator either. If destiny doesn't do gangbusters with the full might of ACTI behind it that will be the real alarm bell
HigherLevel
Member
I'm sure this has been brought up in regards to the "consoles are dead" stuff, but have we forgotten GTAV and it's like 32+ million copies sold in the last 6 months?
That's possible. We'll need to wait for more data to see.
Also, I think it's weird to suggest that kids playing iOS games aren't "picking up the hobby." They are, they just aren't necessarily playing games like their parents did. Times change; it happens.
rokkerkory
Member
i loved this game *kaching* when you got a head shot in MP
unexpected but lovely MP
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
What was the budget for UC3 and TLoU? I'm just finding it hard to believe that cost of making UC3 is much higher than UC2 since it's only been released 2 years later.
Pristine_Condition
Member
LOL. I'd say it's pretty good when you are supply constrained because you are kicking ass all over the UK and Europe and stockpiling hundreds if thousands of units for the Japan launch.
pretty done
Member
I don't see how that equates to "CONSOLE GAMING IS DEAD." like most people in here seem to think
Maybe Nintendo console gaming is dead, but PS4 seems to be pretty healthy and is getting a bunch of games this year from basically every third party that matters. People just like to spread doom when their favorite company is getting boned to make it seem like everyone is doomed. Gaming will be fine as long as platforms like PS4 and PC exist and continue to thrive. Nintendo ain't that important.
pieatorium
Member
I don't know if anyone would want the whole shibang but there would likely be serious competition for the individual parts
outunderthestars
Banned
I hope digital makes up a decent portion of that
Didn't they say their digital sales were less than 10%? Nintendo is failing badly at this point in the generation.
Probably very minor, but yes. Brilliant. The industry is up slightly over the disasterous 2013 with 2 new consoles in the mix.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
True. I still see a $149 PS3 selling several millions in emerging markets.
Aquamarine
Member
Lower-than-usual NPD sales are bad for brick-and-mortar retailers like Amazon or GameStop.
Not necessarily, Xbox one and PS4 are both much more expensive than older systems. So less total units sold can still mean more revenue.
1% Year over year, mind you. I'm not sure how much better revenue should be in the-PS4-Xbone-just-launched 2014 January vs. PS3-360-are-slowly-dying 2013 january, but probably it should be higher even with retail declining overall. Probably. Maybe not.
It's not that this month is particularly bad for PS4 or even Xbone, in my opinion. But theoretically they should be picking up the slack left by the bomb that is the Wii U, and at least in this month, they certainly didn't do that. We'll need more data to see if that's a long term trend.
demosthenes
Member
I think you made a mistake in this statement.
Was 2013 really that disastrous though? Weren't multiple records set? For COD, for GTA and even for exclusive new IP's like Last of Us?
I mean, sure hardware was down, but that happens at the end of a generation, and these new consoles at these high prices, and smaller games catalogues were never going to appeal to anything more than the hardcore market, and least not for a while anyway. Till later price drops or major releases.
I think the Xbox One and PS4 (namely the latter, despite being supply constrained) setting records already shows even in hardcore gaming, the market is still healthy.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
yes, very impressive.
SwiftDeath
Member
Cranky Kong is sure to sell gangbusters with that install base
Guaranteed to outsell Titanfall, just you wait
freefornow
Gold Member
End of March?
Which, by the way, also sold 2:1, apparently.
outunderthestars
Banned
How can the PS4 pick up any more slack? They sold every console they could get onto a shelf....
njean777
Member
Consoles are dead though, those sales mean nothing. /rolls eyes. I seem to remember these arguments for PC back in 2005-2007. Was a hilarious time to watch people try to forecast and then be proven completely wrong.
If only more people like you were to understand of what's going on. Y2Kev said it as well. Not everyone is going to be big or successful every time at everything.
Companies involved in making products must make their products successful & must make people want to buy them.
All the people worried because individual games aren't selling a lot. A greater diversity of games means a spread of more sales. Also digital is not counted in NPD right? If YTY sales of software has dropped at the same rate as the increased adoption of digital sales, then a measurement of physical sales is going to reflect a lower total.
pieatorium
Member
all of that was second half of the year, before GTA even including Last if US being strong it was in pretty big declines