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Official Arcana Heart thread of Loli-fighter goodness
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Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
LegatoB said:
Posts like this make me want to buy a copy, just to spite you.
Hcoregamer00 said:
He's right though, unlike Arcana Heart, Fatal Fury Battle Archives Volume 2 is not censored. The publisher did not remove content from the game knowingly, and ship it without informing fans knowing it would affect some people's decision in purchasing.
I say we support upright and honest publishers, and not those that pretend to be on the side of fans only to pee in their eyes!
The Take Out Bandit
Member
LegatoB said:
While I understand and respect your anti-moe sentiment; I view my purchases of more of a "MOAR GOD DAMN NEW 2D FIGHTING IP'S PLZ" vote, and less of the Chris Hansen vote.
It's a dead genre and every dollar vote counts.
SNK is just fucking rehashing the same decade old shit. GIVE ME A US RELEASE OF GAROU/MOTW YOU ASSHOLES!
Mefisutoferesu
Member
So... no more games from here on out?duckroll said:He's right though, unlike Arcana Heart, Fatal Fury Battle Archives Volume 2 is not censored. The publisher did not remove content from the game knowingly, and ship it without informing fans knowing it would affect some people's decision in purchasing.
I say we support upright and honest publishers, and not those that pretend to be on the side of fans only to pee in their eyes!
Why buy a new, subpar and moe game which has been hilariously and rather confusingly cut for US release when you could buy arcade-perfect versions of some of the finest fight-man games on a fight-man friendly console? Hell, you could hold your cash and put it toward The King of Fighters '98: ULTIMATE MATCH, the definitive version of the definitive installment of one of the finest 2D fighting game series out there! Fighting games are enjoying a renaissance lately - don't settle for poor quality releases of third-rate games, and fight the moe menace here and now!
LegatoB said:
I bought Fatal Fury BA Vol. 2 as well. What now?
Shame on you Atlus. There's no reason to cut out the voices when you left the opening theme IN JAPANESE. Just a mind boggling decision. I don't give a shit how unimportant it seems to people. There's no reason to do it. Period. It only serves to piss people off.
If I would have known from the start, I wouldn't have bought it this and just imported instead. Just pretty much just soured me on this for the night.
duckroll said:
Well, not like it matters, but fuck em. Cancelling my P3 FES preorder. I already bought P3 and still haven't gotten around to playing it. Not giving them any more money for a long time.
Yeah, whatever. Laugh it up. Nothing gets me more pissed off than stupid shit like this. "It's just a stupid moe fighting game!" Yeah? If it's just a stupid moe fighting game, why cut anything to begin with? Exactly.
Mefisutoferesu
Member
Do it. Gamers need to show more solidarity about things like this, and there's no better way to do it than by voting with your wallet.kiryogi said:
Hey guys, look!
http://www.atlus.com/new_forum/viewtopic.php?t=525&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90
While that's not TECHNICALLY untrue depending on how you define censorship, the fact that on the same thread people were wondering if they would keep the Japanese voices, just smacks me as REALLY dishonest. Thoughts?
http://www.atlus.com/new_forum/viewtopic.php?t=525&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90
While that's not TECHNICALLY untrue depending on how you define censorship, the fact that on the same thread people were wondering if they would keep the Japanese voices, just smacks me as REALLY dishonest. Thoughts?
I don't really feel as strongly as duckroll on this, but I would like to hear a valid reason from Atlus for cutting the voices even if that reason is just "it was cheaper".
It's still cool they brought it to the US and it's at a discount price, but not mentioning the voice thing does come across as a little messed up since the fanbase they are selling it to are the hardcore fighter & anime crowd.
It's still cool they brought it to the US and it's at a discount price, but not mentioning the voice thing does come across as a little messed up since the fanbase they are selling it to are the hardcore fighter & anime crowd.
If we're real vocal about thsi, I'm sure Atlus will throw in thier 2¢. But it does bug me the wrong way when they DID say it would be uncensored. The game is fun and it's got great depth which I love in a 2D fighter. But no voices for story mode? It's not game breaking, but probably wouldn't have brought the game if I knew they lied for no reason.
Guess I played right in their hands....now I feel like returning it, which I rarely do, especially since I research and get opinions before I buy. Figured this would be a no-brainer and have what I've come to expect it to have.
Guess I played right in their hands....now I feel like returning it, which I rarely do, especially since I research and get opinions before I buy. Figured this would be a no-brainer and have what I've come to expect it to have.
Himuro said:
Y'know. It 's more about standards and expectations than "Oh it's just a fighting game story". First they cut this, then they'll continue to keep cutting it as the standard is lower, and oh wait what do you know? They'll start to cut something that you'll care about too.
Just think about this whole uninformed issue as well. See how many of us, went from buyers to maybe and not even? This is a big deal. And them not informing the crowd they'd be mainly selling to is an absolute low.
Himuro said:
How about the fact that it's fucking stupid to cut anything voiced out of the game that has Japanese spit out all over the place in the rest of it. It's a pointless cut that only serves to piss off what people will buy this game.
You can't be this dense.
Bebpo said:
It does kind of suck that people weren't told about this in advance, and I'm sorry to people who are aggrieved on that count. But Atlus never makes cuts like this without a reason, and in this case it was because if you leave cutscene voices or voices deemed important to understanding of a game in a foreign language with no English-language option, you stand a very good chance of having your game rejected. Of course there are one or two exceptions (Yakuza 2 springs to mind... assuming it's even still coming out) but they're very difficult to get. Facing the choice between bringing it with no voices or not bringing it, we made the hard choice. It's not going down well with fans, and I understand why, but there was a reason.
(I'm not even sure I should be posting this, but it's Friday evening and I'd hate to see the hate fester all weekend.)
Durante said:
Or both. I'm so interested to hear what the reason could possibly be. The intro? Japanese. The character voices while fighting? Japanese. Names? Japanese. The whole damned game is Japanese and yet you can't keep in simple voice overs during story mode (and something else now? vs. mode screens and winning quotes)?
Well, there you go. Regardless, it's your company's fault for not relaying this information to it's fans ahead of time. Of course, Atlus probably knew it would mean lost sales. It still makes zero sense to me though. Whatever.
Cancelling my remaining Atlus pre-orders. =/
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
SCEA can be inconsistent at times with its TRCs regarding non-English languages.Kintaro said:
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I want this. For the articles.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It's not consistent across the board. It might be consistent within a company's personal submission history, but not across different companies. There are external factors that are sometimes considered as well, including intended release window and other titles being released in the same window.LegatoB said:
So in the end, this is all a SCEA issue. That I can understand. The game came over anyway and I'm sure Atlus did what it could and if it meant axing voices in some parts to not get it rejected, make sense. Besides, ironically while following this thread, I was trying to kick Mildred's arse this whole time. Still, I'd appreciate it if something like this was mentioned ahead of time. This is the age of blogs and what not. It shouldn't take until the release date to finally touch on details like this.
Was there no way to include the voices in as an easter egg or something? Default them to off, enter a code and they're on? Did Atlus even ask for an exemption? "Hey, we would like to release this game on your aging old system. Can we just release it as is this once?"
Exactly why wasn't this exclusion told to the fans beforehand anyways? I mean, only a core group of fans were going to buy this game in the first place. You have to have known that keeping quiet on this and making the cut would only serve to piss people off. If it was "out of your hands" then come clean and say so. Get fans on your side before putting out the game. This way only serves to get a rapid set of fans fired up. Instead, you're got a bunch of people pissed, returning their games or worse.
For a small company that lives and dies on it's tight knit loyal group of fans, this was a definite fuck up.
Exactly why wasn't this exclusion told to the fans beforehand anyways? I mean, only a core group of fans were going to buy this game in the first place. You have to have known that keeping quiet on this and making the cut would only serve to piss people off. If it was "out of your hands" then come clean and say so. Get fans on your side before putting out the game. This way only serves to get a rapid set of fans fired up. Instead, you're got a bunch of people pissed, returning their games or worse.
For a small company that lives and dies on it's tight knit loyal group of fans, this was a definite fuck up.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
This approach may not get a good reaction from SCEA either though, and could affect future submissions for approval. It shouldn't, but politics are politics.Kintaro said:
It's a lose-lose situation really.
I ordered my copy through Amazon (Hubbagames?) so it's in the mail system now.
Voices getting the axe is disappointing, but I'm going to hold on to my copy. Atlus hasn't fucked up enough in my eyes to turn down a potentially good game.
Odin Sphere had a japanese language option and Atlus rarely tamper with games unless they're fixing bugs. Overall they've done a lot more good with very few blemishes on their record (some that are very old).
Voices getting the axe is disappointing, but I'm going to hold on to my copy. Atlus hasn't fucked up enough in my eyes to turn down a potentially good game.
Odin Sphere had a japanese language option and Atlus rarely tamper with games unless they're fixing bugs. Overall they've done a lot more good with very few blemishes on their record (some that are very old).
XiaNaphryz said:
The real lose-lose situation here is that Atlus has just pissed off their fanbase by removing voices from one of the few (if not the only) fighting games where the only people that are buying it will actually give a shit that voices in the story mode are gone.
Bebpo said:
This was going to be something to mention in my previous post, but I cut it out. Get some female employees, a mic, and record it in the shower or something. Bammo. You have a cheesy dub to match the cheesy lines in the story mode and you can include the Japanese.