ZackieChan
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Then why were they constantly saying how it was integral to the experience and it would never happen? The cognitive dissonance is apparent in their statements.
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MS: XB1 Kinect won't cost $100,400$ XB1 revealed early because E3 will focus on games
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Then why were they constantly saying how it was integral to the experience and it would never happen? The cognitive dissonance is apparent in their statements.
true. I still expect them to talk about how they are listening to the consumer, and point out that effective immediately the price is cut and you can access a great range of apps without needing Xbox live gold. The timing of the price cut and the whole 'listening' spiel is too good to leave hanging.
Still curious what they'll have to show. They dug deep last year, showing things further out than Sony - 2015 titles at e3 2013. So if they feel they need to show new things,are they going to need to tease with 2016 stuff? I think I'd rather hear things closer in
My thought on why they announced this so early is so by the time their E3 conference takes place, they can say something like "Get the Xbox One. Available now for $399." It's basically the Apple strategy, except they're being friendlier in announcing it to anyone who bothers reading websites and stuff a month in advance.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
I'm excited for their E3 conference.
Last year, they said the same thing and they delivered.
Last year, they said the same thing and they delivered.
Liabe Brave
Member
If you trust his leaks, ntkrnl said the new Crackdown is 2016, and that's something I could see being mentioned to build hype. The dev time for the new Gears points to a 2016 release as well, and just maybe they'd have a CG teaser. Apart from those, I think they'll stick with 2014 and 2105 games. There's plenty that's been leaked, hinted, is known, or makes sense. I'd envision something along these lines:
2014
Sunset Overdrive
Forza Horizon 2
Halo 2 Anniversary
Below
D4
Battlefield SWAT
COD:AW
unannounced Kinect title
several unannounced indies
2015
Quantum Break
Halo 5
Fable Legends
Star Wars Battlefront
Witcher 3
Platinum project
unannounced 3rd-party exclusive
several unannounced indies
2016
Crackdown
Gears teaser
That'd be a jam-packed show, and mostly coming in the next 18 months.
Droopaloop
Banned
I'm sure that Phil is going to try to make E3 all about games. Looking forward to it. I think the main reason they didn't announce this stuff at E3 though is because it's not the type of stuff that will garner applause. I mean, if they announced the price point, games with gold, and the gold wall stuff; they would just be announcing things already done by Sony.
Still, it's appreciated and a step in the right direction. I don't know who would applaud for a device becoming at par with it's competitor though. I'm sure the guys at Xbox want it to turn around, and word of mouth goes a long way. There's been enough exciting rumors going around, so here's to hoping that their E3 has some stellar surprises though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D0_Cj1xxDo[
Still, it's appreciated and a step in the right direction. I don't know who would applaud for a device becoming at par with it's competitor though. I'm sure the guys at Xbox want it to turn around, and word of mouth goes a long way. There's been enough exciting rumors going around, so here's to hoping that their E3 has some stellar surprises though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D0_Cj1xxDo[
Hahahaha! Thanks for that.
Now... the question is... if they drop the kinect bundle price down to 449, are going to move more units or will they just sell the stand alone
Otherwise, how would they sell the Xbox Ones they knew were going to be on the market come last Christmas?
From a production standpoint, it would be crazy for them to remove the Kinect before Christmas after last years E3. They had to release with the Kinect, so a Kinectless SKU would have to be released later.
It would have been impossible to sell any Xbox Ones if they said "Oh yeah, we'll make a Kinect-less package later at a lower price. But please, buy one before then!"
It's not a dissonance. It's called not revealing your 'Plan B' to the public because you don't want to damage 'Plan A'.
How many times have you heard Companies say 'We're not planning a pricedrop' right before it happens? Answer: every time
rokkerkory
Member
Yep all those ppl saying they'll jump as soon as there is no kinect better put their $ where their mouth is.
Fair enough.
Miles Quaritch
Member
They must have a cracking E3 line up if they getting this out of the way now.
Fingers crossed for Eden Falls, Crackdown: Skyline, Rugpuddle and Horizon 2.
Fingers crossed for Eden Falls, Crackdown: Skyline, Rugpuddle and Horizon 2.
If this is the case, ie a new HQ BK, PDZ, or anything core, I think MS pretty much has a console sold to me as opposed to me playing my girlfriends brothers. Seriously just fuck Kinect.
And BTW I hope they don't just cram Halo and Gears at e3, I want new core IP and plenty of it. MS you have my attention.
You've got to understand that statements like that were made when old management was in-place at the company. You obviously can tell how much it must of been an internal cluster-fuck last year with the reveal they had. It's very obvious why Don has left and I like the things they're doing to try and rectify it.
Just makes me wonder what the console would of been like if Phil was in-charge since the start.
Oh btw:
https://xbox.steampowered.com/
Try any other subdomain. 2 days ago, the above domain redirected me to the support page now it's just invalid but still existent. Might be an old subdomain, but why change it's behavior within 2 days?
https://xbox.steampowered.com/
Try any other subdomain. 2 days ago, the above domain redirected me to the support page now it's just invalid but still existent. Might be an old subdomain, but why change it's behavior within 2 days?
FleckSplat
Member
I like how the OP "forgot" the space in the title, so it looks like $100,400 (one-hundred thousand, four-hundred US dollars)...lol
GoofsterStud
Member
Or a horrible month in sales.
Can't wait to see the numbers.
Miles Quaritch
Member
True. I'm hoping it's because of how jam packed their presser will be.
SSO reveal now also leads me believe there are some epic announcements/reveals in store.
Devilgunman
Member
Because MS was full of shit and wanted people to buy their product at $500? First they said the always online and now this. Xbone has been rolled back so much that it barely resembles to what MS envisioned in the first place. What a mess.
Miles Quaritch
Member
D4 tho...
Burger
Member
I haven't seen a single game I want to play that involves either talking out loud or waving my arms about like a total idiot.
Elitist like you are what are destroying innovation in new interaction methods!
D4 supports the controller as well.
The kinect controls might be good, but it's not going to convince someone that they need a kinect.
nelsonroyale
Member
Quite possible, though yesterday likely being a week or two ago. Anyway, I think is kind of makes sense, because it may even be ready for E3 and they probably expect to get some impetus when they reveal stuff like Halo 5.
Burger
Member
Hey I typed all that shit out on my Powerglove.
God, I really hope so. It seems like every year since 2010 has had an overly long block devoted to media stuff to make sure everyone knows that Xbox now supports ESPNFacebookNFLSeasonPassNASCARNetflixpleasekillmeHBOGoDVRSnapSkypeInternetExplorerZuneMusic.
I'm not against those apps and features in any way, but Microsoft has horrible priorities when it comes to making the announcements.
MS conferences have always been boring to me so we'll see.
They still want the living room so I doubt it.
They still want the living room so I doubt it.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Yeah. I hated the TV TV TV SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS announcements at E3 last year.
Canis lupus
Member
Surely they could've announced it at E3, it only takes like half a minute in a 90 minute conference. It was a bad idea, people will wait now and May is not even halfway done.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Hydrargyrus
Member
If they won't announce that during the E3 is for:
1) The April NPD numbers are going to be disastrous for XO
2) This is not a price decrease. Is removing something in order to be able to sold it cheaper.
3) That is nothing to be proud of. Is a necessity measure. One more in a pretty short lapse of time.
And, as someone said before, with a good E3 and the new sku they could win June NPD and use that as PR.
They would need less than 2 minutes to announce that. That's not for time...
1) The April NPD numbers are going to be disastrous for XO
2) This is not a price decrease. Is removing something in order to be able to sold it cheaper.
3) That is nothing to be proud of. Is a necessity measure. One more in a pretty short lapse of time.
And, as someone said before, with a good E3 and the new sku they could win June NPD and use that as PR.
They would need less than 2 minutes to announce that. That's not for time...
IsntChrisL
Member
I don't think they want to deal with a crowd cheering over the fact that they don't have to buy their camera to get their system anymore.
RyanPierre
Member
I think they'd be fine with a crowd cheering at that, considering the angle they're using with this announcement is pro-choice/pro-consumer and listening to feedback.
IsntChrisL
Member
That was the only possible direction they could take it.
Wishmaster92
Member
I think it's only natural that the new revision will feature an interchangeable hdd compartment like the ps4.
Only just realised that without the kinect, they lose the IR blasting abilities, so no more of the cable stuff either
mangochutney
Member
That was the reveal, not E3.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
This is how it's typically done though. Nintendo, when they lowered the price of the Wii U, it was not immediate. They announced it a month early. It's common.