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Too Human Stand and be counted
- Thread starter Denis Dyack
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godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
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I love Too Human, but I could care less about who gets owned or not.
I love Too Human, but I could care less about who gets owned or not.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
ED was one of my favourite games last-gen, but Twin Snakes was disappointing as with the departure the current version of Too Human has taken from the original concept. From what I've seen, I truly doubt this game will be AAA quality or reach a level of acclaim that is on the level as being one of the best of this year. I'd love to be surprised, but I seriously doubt it and the feeling I've got from everything I've seen or read about the game backs this up.
In some ways this thread is ridiculous and uneeded, and in others this takes cajones and is something similar to what I do with friends when they make what I see as stupid, baseless or ignorant comments. Example: (Friend
"Russia will be destroyed by Holland in the Euro Quarter-Finals." (Me "Have you seen Russia play?" (Friend "It doesn't matter - they haven't faced Holland yet." (Me "Wanna make a bet on it?"
Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and make my stand:
AGAINST.
In some ways this thread is ridiculous and uneeded, and in others this takes cajones and is something similar to what I do with friends when they make what I see as stupid, baseless or ignorant comments. Example: (Friend
"Russia will be destroyed by Holland in the Euro Quarter-Finals." (Me "Have you seen Russia play?" (Friend "It doesn't matter - they haven't faced Holland yet." (Me "Wanna make a bet on it?"Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and make my stand:
AGAINST.
snack said:
You're another one who didn't get the point of the thread. You are not forced to participate or to voice your opinion. Only if you are biased towards either side (seeing as how no one can no for sure before playing the game) should you vote. And even then only if you want to.
In answer to the OP:
Co-op dropping from 4 to 2 players was a very big deal. The lack of co-op on the same box is an even bigger deal. The last MP game I bought was Halo 3, and it's bursting with options for play, including on the same box.
So, right now I'm "against". The new videos look okay, but I wanted to play the game with my kid, and I wanted to roll through it with my Halo 3 crew as a team. I'll play the demo, and keep my mind open, but I'm not excited.
Co-op dropping from 4 to 2 players was a very big deal. The lack of co-op on the same box is an even bigger deal. The last MP game I bought was Halo 3, and it's bursting with options for play, including on the same box.
So, right now I'm "against". The new videos look okay, but I wanted to play the game with my kid, and I wanted to roll through it with my Halo 3 crew as a team. I'll play the demo, and keep my mind open, but I'm not excited.
SlasherJPC
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Diablos said:
Well at the rate the posts and views are going on this page, I wouldnt say it bad PR persay.:lol
sionyboy said:If it gets over 500k sales and 80 on metacritic, I think we can say its a good game. 1 million sales and over 90%, then a lot of people in this thread shouldn't post here again
:lol
I think 80% Metacritic score and 750k August/September NPD combined sales is a reasonable line, hopefully Dyack and the GAF mods should mutually agree on something along those lines.
SaggyMonkey
Member
Well, he's convinced me. This guy almost never recommends games, and for him to come out and say such things.. this one must really be special.
Spirit of Jazz
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Evlar said:
It is given the one negative press showing it's had is the only one people focuses on. Further still the fact that it's the people moaning in every topic who mostly never wanted the title or don't even own a 360 doesn't help their case.
Skellig Gra
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For...until proven otherwise.
gregor7777
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Nolan. said:
Because it is definitely true.
GarthVaderUK
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Speevy said:
How is that at all relevant?
scissorfight
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AGAINST
pr0cs
Member
I'm not really a fan of this, even if the game got 99% and sold 4 million copies there would still be GAF members who said the game was overrated or Microsoft money-hatted the reviews, etc etc (even if they never played the game or... "played it at a friends house" (tm).
I will give props for the big hairy cojones it takes to try and call people out, I find it quite humorous that the usual suspects arent' willing to put up a FOR or AGAINST.
I'm FOR the game, there really isn't anything like it on XBL yet, I think the lack of same-box coop will *really* hurt the end score but I'm hoping that the single player portion is good enough to make up for some of that huge negative.
I will give props for the big hairy cojones it takes to try and call people out, I find it quite humorous that the usual suspects arent' willing to put up a FOR or AGAINST.
I'm FOR the game, there really isn't anything like it on XBL yet, I think the lack of same-box coop will *really* hurt the end score but I'm hoping that the single player portion is good enough to make up for some of that huge negative.
Mato
Member
Against.
Dude it's $100 million. No? I don't see where the money went and I don't give a rat about lawsuits and excuses. I mean you have games like Dead Space coming out and effortlessly looking SO much better. Too Human doesn't look bad, it just looks totally mediocre.
Btw what's with the Mark Ecko attitude.
Dude it's $100 million. No? I don't see where the money went and I don't give a rat about lawsuits and excuses. I mean you have games like Dead Space coming out and effortlessly looking SO much better. Too Human doesn't look bad, it just looks totally mediocre.
Btw what's with the Mark Ecko attitude.
Stantron
Member
For fuck's sake. am i doin it rite?
I think the majority of gaf will shit on this game (same with CoD5) even if it's good, there's been so much negative hype and hate that it's almost inevitable. I'm, however, looking forward to enjoying the game for what it is. I think it has potential.
Denis: I hope you're planning a 3 or 4player co-op patch. Too chaotic? So what, give the people what they want. Allow us the option of choosing how we want to play. Two player co-op may be ideal, but a lot of us were looking forward to the synergy of 3-4 man teams. Do it.
I think the majority of gaf will shit on this game (same with CoD5) even if it's good, there's been so much negative hype and hate that it's almost inevitable. I'm, however, looking forward to enjoying the game for what it is. I think it has potential.
Denis: I hope you're planning a 3 or 4player co-op patch. Too chaotic? So what, give the people what they want. Allow us the option of choosing how we want to play. Two player co-op may be ideal, but a lot of us were looking forward to the synergy of 3-4 man teams. Do it.
tinfoilhatman
all of my posts are my avatar
Just the fact that you took the time to show up on gaf means I'll take the time to try it out as soon as I finish GTA4 and MGS4.
best of luck, cheers
best of luck, cheers
Diablos said:
You must have missed the Too Human threads where even a couple of mods were essentially promoting the trolling of this game. I think it is a friendly challenge all in good fun, and to have people take it so seriously to the point of direct personal attacks is a little sad considering all of this makes for some great entertainment.
inertiatic
Member
For (fingers crossed, definitely).
Denis Dyack said:
Wow. For a guy who can't even set any hard definitions for the bet, you're talking tough. Good show.
Not falling for it though. Not until the guidelines for the bet is laid out. The way you've set it up, it's actually up to Duckroll and Evilore to set up the guidelines.
Epsilon-delta
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Spirit of Jazz said:
QFT
goldenpp72
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too human is an 80 million dollar project for all 3 games if I recall.
Francias Castiglione
Banned
Speevy said:
Didn't he already do one of the recent screens and confirmed 720p 2xAA?
Francias Castiglione
Banned
Unison said:
You have a link to that? I've never seen the article where that was discussed. I assumed $90m was for the trilogy, which would make sense as the first game will be the largest cost getting the engine and gameplay systems in place.
After what I saw and played at E3, I was against.
Then I saw some of the newer media, and I was impartial, willing to try it if I saw it nearby, definitely not buy it though.
Then I saw your post, Denis, and now I'm against it again.
If you're that preoccupied with whether or not a large gaming forum are FOR or AGAINST your game before they have a chance to play it, well, then something must be amiss in the first place.
How bout instead of asking us if we hate it or love it before we get a chance to try it, wait and see what we think of it on our own account?
With that said, I have no interest in this game further than that of playing it at E3 this year, that will be my compass for how I feel its progressed or not.
In short; Against, until further notice.
Then I saw some of the newer media, and I was impartial, willing to try it if I saw it nearby, definitely not buy it though.
Then I saw your post, Denis, and now I'm against it again.
If you're that preoccupied with whether or not a large gaming forum are FOR or AGAINST your game before they have a chance to play it, well, then something must be amiss in the first place.
How bout instead of asking us if we hate it or love it before we get a chance to try it, wait and see what we think of it on our own account?
With that said, I have no interest in this game further than that of playing it at E3 this year, that will be my compass for how I feel its progressed or not.
In short; Against, until further notice.
FOR!
I've got to admit, for a dev to come on a hardcore forum and make such a bold claim, it has to be good. Right? Whatever. I've always liked SK's games and will hopefully like this one to. For some reason though, if it turns out just as good as Mr. Dyack says it is, no one will admit it. Be prepared for the Averege vs. GOTY warz. You know its going to happen.
I've got to admit, for a dev to come on a hardcore forum and make such a bold claim, it has to be good. Right? Whatever. I've always liked SK's games and will hopefully like this one to. For some reason though, if it turns out just as good as Mr. Dyack says it is, no one will admit it. Be prepared for the Averege vs. GOTY warz. You know its going to happen.
-"Too Human is a very different game from an aspect of combat because it combines action elements with RPG elements."
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35078.html
Action elements with RPG elements. Action with RPG. Action RPG. I do believe you've just created a genre, Denis!
-Co-op skills for "helping your whole group," when this sort of emphasis is puzzling with a maximum of two players. Healer classes also tend to make little sense in this context. The game seems to be retaining gameplay elements suited for 4 player co-op after dropping the feature.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35401.html
Most people supporting Too Human at GAF seem to be focusing on the "It has LOOTS, people, LOOTS!" aspect. Maybe console-only gamers really *are* eagerly anticipating a game like Too Human to come along and let them sate the desire for action-oriented loot and levels. There's a reason, however, that people in touch with PC gaming laughed at the notion of Too Human being of the same caliber as what we'd expect from Diablo 3.
I'm not impressed by anything I've seen of Too Human, from the floaty zero-feedback combat to the gimped featureset to the eye-melting art to the awkward cutscene direction and painfully amateur philosophy. I'm not going to wage a fanboy war with you, though. I get that people are responding positively to the bravado, but Duckroll did present his points fairly and the "put up or shut up" post made this whole affair out to be even more silly.
It did take balls to make this thread, so props for that.
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