bananafactory
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Others in this thread had put it at around 1.15-1.2 million diff in the US.
If they gained 400k this month we now have a gap of about 700-800k remaining
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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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Others in this thread had put it at around 1.15-1.2 million diff in the US.
If they gained 400k this month we now have a gap of about 700-800k remaining
Pretty sure x1 will be even closer come january. The question is, will word of mouth and newfound mindshare be enough when Sony first parties start to drop?
With a continued price drop i expect it will.
Looks like ps4 and X1 might be neck in neck In the US for a long time, while PS4 continues to destroy X1 world wide. MS should be happy considering what happened the last year, Sony should be happy period. 13 months ago PS4 being on equal footing with the X1 in the US would have been considered a big win i think.
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With a continued price drop i expect it will.
Looks like ps4 and X1 might be neck in neck In the US for a long time, while PS4 continues to destroy X1 world wide. MS should be happy considering what happened the last year, Sony should be happy period. 13 months ago PS4 being on equal footing with the X1 in the US would have been considered a big win i think.
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KillerMan91
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Yeah. I really don't get the price drop argument. While Xbone sold more PS4 still did very well and about two times more than PS3 did back in 2007. Why should they drop the price and hurt their profit margins if PS4 is still selling just fine? You drop the price when your notice that your product is selling below expectations. Not just because competition sells more.
Has Don Mattrick still access to the NPD data?
So we can say that the gap is closing non-sarcastically now?
This is a landslide victory for Microsoft and it supports the opinion that I have been maintaining for the past few months. It's all about price. The X1 wasn't suffering because of the DRM fallout or the weaker specs or the resolution stuff. It was simply more expensive. As soon as the price dropped and the machine became equal or better value than the PS4 it stopped the Playstation's momentum dead in its tracks.
You really believe that?
Even when the price was at $400, Sony kept outselling Xbox One.
Around 1/9 of their Surface RT fuckup.
He's from the UK and says "Microsoft sold 1.2 million Xbox One units in November. That's a lot of consoles." How do we know that's not world wide?
EDIT: n/m had to unwind the trail to GeekWire
Beer Monkey
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What is the cost of a smaller install base that buys fewer games on a platform ($10 to MS for each disc sold)?
If you want to make money on a platform, you need people to own the platform.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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Whats the world wide sales numbers looking like regarding the X1 and PS4?
gaming_noob
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What are the estimates for:
Smash Bros
MCC
DriveClub
Sunset Overdrive
Forza Horizon 2?
Smash Bros
MCC
DriveClub
Sunset Overdrive
Forza Horizon 2?
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
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Y'all are silly if you truly think the Xbox One will be able to make up for a 4 million deficit.
Maybe Phil told them to shut up and let the NPD do the talking.
Steverulez
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He actually is, he doubted Cboats numbers and it seems he was right, haha.
I guess wait for creamsugar. Hopefully he will give us info on software sales
IAmRandom31
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800k or so seems to be what most people come out with.
MS brought it down about 1/3rd. Anyone expecting the same type of thing in December?
To use MS terms 2014 was pre-season for the PS4, 2015 is when it starts to get a ton of software from the beginning of the year and throughout the year. Whereas the MS lineup is pretty barren for atleast the first half of the year.
But this time around in 2015 the PS4 will have some huge titles for the holidays like Uncharted 4 and No Mans Sky.
So the question becomes, can MS hold the momentum or is this a one shot thing.
fluffydelusions
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R3TRODYCE
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Yep haha.
When did he ever say he had the NPD numbers? He just said those fake results matched what he saw at the Best Buys in his area.
Did he make up his info? I'm not sure. Any of you guys could be making this shit up. You included. Regional information for one store was never supposed to represent the whole picture.
Davey Cakes
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More proof that NA is pretty solid for Wii U. Much different than Japan.
Which means NINTENDO should ramp up their NA focus. Build some development teams here. Not only that but actually try to improve the Virtual Console and even things like Club Nintendo. Stop treating Japan so great when your console's success comes mostly from other regions like France and NA.
Which means NINTENDO should ramp up their NA focus. Build some development teams here. Not only that but actually try to improve the Virtual Console and even things like Club Nintendo. Stop treating Japan so great when your console's success comes mostly from other regions like France and NA.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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This comes across as rather rude and bitter. How do you go from not knowing about other stores and only speaking for your company, to practically aluding to others lying?
Demon Lizardman
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What the fuck is going on here, I just got here. Calm the fuck down and explain!
bananafactory
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Last we heard it was 13.5 million PS4 in September, and around 7 million XB1s
EmmaWatsonButt
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Wonder where Destiny placed
theprodigy
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Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;142924021 said:
it's like 700k in the US now....
nah I'm sure his observations are accurate for his district, but just for his district only; had people been paying close attention they would have noticed his reports generally didn't pick up Xbox One upswings (February, August, PS4 catching up in sales rate by the 7th day of the price cut)
FinalStageBoss
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Yea I'm expecting Sony to drop the WW hammer.
Definitely.
Price was the only thing holding the XB1 back.
If they can keep at the current price, then by E3 2015 they will be leading the NA market.
BlackBuzzard
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Glorious that Hindle is banned.
I agree but I'm not a fan of going near a year without some quality retail exclusive. They have done it before and still not a fan.
creamsugar
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DPE < 4.5M
360 ~ 29%
XB1 ~ 28%
PS4 ~ 26%
PS3 ~ 17%
360 ~ 29%
XB1 ~ 28%
PS4 ~ 26%
PS3 ~ 17%
Personally, I hate being trolled.
-tetsuo-
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GravityInsanity
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Mostly due to Black Friday.
bananafactory
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I think the December numbers will be a lot closer. There was probably a lot of people on the fence about XB1 that jumped in that first week when the price went down. Now that they got the people who were holding out for a good sale, they need to keep sustaining that momentum.
Live Free or Die
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That's not from MS though. If it was true MS would have included it in their PR because that is a big figure.
MrJonnyBigBoss
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Do you consider 400k to 500k to be trash?
The Shogun
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I'm not going after anyone. He shouldn't be banned. The thing is vett your shit. I believe Abdiel is a quality poster.
That said I thought he was off base all month with what he was saying.
EDIT: Let me be clear Im not stating GO AFTER Abdiel. I think my tone was completely lost by posting on the internet
Ambition
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Turns out the xbone outsold the PS4 by 400k+ units.
shinra-bansho
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EDIT: LTD gap is 730K roughly.
Actually with such a minor increase Y/Y, Wii U shipment forecast will be harder to hit, although December still remains to be seen.
System is actually down quite a bit in Japan Y/Y.
Actually with such a minor increase Y/Y, Wii U shipment forecast will be harder to hit, although December still remains to be seen.
System is actually down quite a bit in Japan Y/Y.
Is such a thing even possible?
jhmtehgamr20xx
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All of this has only coalesced for a single month since nearly a year ago though.
People seem to forget there were holiday months N64 crushed PS1 too, but that didn't mean much for sales at large.
There were even months OG Xbox outsold the PS2...still didn't mean much overall. We'll see how it all holds together six months from now.
loaf of bread
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They're not going to just start winning every month once these deals end, they succeeded in holding off the gap but the gap is inevitable, it shall return, and this time, with a vengeance
BeforeU
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Not that much but I am guessing comfortable 100-150k lead.
Probably a few million still. Microsoft is closing the gap in NA(US/Canada), UK and Australia which last generation were heavily weighted toward X360. But Sony has locked up Japan, and most of Europe still. But like last generation, Microsoft just needs to be competitive in Europe and North America to be successful.
Wow, that's close except for PS3.
GOOD! Gotta give credit where it's due! Microsoft listened to their gamer base and made a lot of positive changes! They lowered the price of the Xbox One, and put forth some amazing exclusives. Sony kept their price and put forth some very lackluster exclusives (DriveClub, Little Big Planet 3, InfamousSS, Killzone SF). This is the first time I ever took back the majority of Sony's exclusives back to gamestop after beating them once.The PS4's exclusives has been so pathetic that their best selling bundle was remaster of last year games (GTAV, The Last of Us Remaster). I'm a PS4 owner, but arrogant Sony reared it's ugly head again, so I'm glad this occurred to show them, things can turn around quite quickly.
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