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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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Exactly. And that's been their main strategy since the Original Xbox & Xbox 360: Throw a lot of money around to buy out the competition & to win their way out of it, rather than working hard to win it.
Is it bad if this is actually higher than I thought it'd be?
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
Should really be for the Wii and 360.
1st Course
Member
3rd party software accounts for 38.9% of Wii U total software revenue? Am I reading this right? Seems really high considering Wii U 3rd party games never charts.
Yes. They are published by the manufacturer
Aquamarine
Member
To supplement Creamsugar:
Wii U total software:
November 2013 was +40% YOY from November 2012
November 2014 was +108% YOY from November 2013
Nintendo publisher revenues:
2013 = 17% Wii U
2014 YTD = 38% Wii U (+190% YOY)
Wii U total software:
November 2013 was +40% YOY from November 2012
November 2014 was +108% YOY from November 2013
Nintendo publisher revenues:
2013 = 17% Wii U
2014 YTD = 38% Wii U (+190% YOY)
Aquamarine
Member
And just for fun...(Sorry SmokyDave)
Sony publisher revenues:
2012 = 76% PS3
2013 = 92% PS3 + PS4
2014 YTD = 94% PS3 + PS4
This just shows how much SCEA has abandoned Vita.
Sony publisher revenues:
2012 = 76% PS3
2013 = 92% PS3 + PS4
2014 YTD = 94% PS3 + PS4
This just shows how much SCEA has abandoned Vita.
Of games not for 13-35 year old males, LEGO games, as well as Skylanders and Disney Infinity also chart and they've generally sold best on Xbox 360 in recent years. We also should not discount the fact that PS3 and Xbox 360 have not yet hit the $100 price point and may never hit it as well as both PS4 and XB1 being $100 outside the norm for consoles at launch prices.
I believe there to be an inherent difference between mobile devices and a device meant for the television. A mobile device is one that everyone in the family is going to buy, especially one with the major purpose of communicating with other people like a smartphone does and especially when they can get one every few years for cheap with a two-year contract. Conversely a device meant for the television is something a family buys once every few years. I believe part of the reason why things like the Ouya and the Fire TV are not successful is because people can see that PS4 and XB1 are quality hardware and worth the $400 much as people see the iPhone and iPad as quality hardware worth its asking price.
I am however willing to entertain the possibility that people want mobile devices now and don't want a device that would be stuck in a single place, but that is a much larger issue that would affect entire segments of media industries.
hodayathink
Member
The missing part
IIRC, the "missing" ones were 360, 3DS, Vita, Wii, and PS3. But I think we already have the 3DS and 360 numbers, so the other three should be relatively easy.
I guess it does show that to some extent, but it also shows Sony had a brand new $399 console on the market that made up most of its sales in the US in 2013 and 2014?
Or is this software only?
Sorry, I'm probably reading this wrong.
hodayathink
Member
It's software only. It basically shows that Sony isn't really releasing anything at retail for the Vita software wise, and we should all know that retail software is, for the most part, the biggest driver of console sales outside of launch.
Ok, thanks, makes more sense in that perspective.
Not good for the Vita. Still on the fence about buying one (time issue), and no support doesn't help.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Yeh I'm actually surprised by this too... Exactly what titles are contributing to this? Just Dance, Skylanders, Lego and Disney?
The missing part
XBO 18.7% 81.3%
PS4 14.1% 85.9%
NWU 61.1% 38.9%
And people say Nintendo users don't buy third party games. Ah!
Seriously, though, how?
I been seeing some good PS4 deals that people being posting on this from, way better then November. Wallmart and target I think?
I know this isnt related to this thread but for any Aussies here, check out the deals they have on the white and black PS4s, also xbox one lol.
https://ebgames.com.au/featured/xmas-2014-top-gifts
I know this isnt related to this thread but for any Aussies here, check out the deals they have on the white and black PS4s, also xbox one lol.
https://ebgames.com.au/featured/xmas-2014-top-gifts
Aquamarine
Member
Never mind.
shinra-bansho
Member
If the largest segment corresponds to the 3DS, using JH's approx as base, then the three smallest segments would be around 89K, 33K and 25K.
That seems a terrible showing relative to the 360 for the PS3, so I don't know if that's the appropriate assignment.
Miles Quaritch
Member
SensibleSucker
Member
Blimey. A Bone, kinect and 7 games for the equivalent of 315 pounds. That's a steal.
i will assume it's the ps vita that sold 25k, just off the basis of using warm colors = handhelds, cool colors = consoles. that's less than half of what it did last year.
either way, that puts the vita at around 225k-233k for the year. i'm seeing systems in stock at retailers for the first time in months, so maybe the system can crack 300k for the year if it actually sold 33k in november.
either way, that puts the vita at around 225k-233k for the year. i'm seeing systems in stock at retailers for the first time in months, so maybe the system can crack 300k for the year if it actually sold 33k in november.
Word on the street is that SCEA took a leaf from SCEE and is doing a push* again for the Vita.
*Not ignoring it but not giving it more than the just-starting-to-rot meat.
Poor Vita...at least let it die with a bang, not a whimper.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
I'm really not here do defend MS but ...Come on now. Sony bought Naughty Dog, Zipper, Evolution, Bigbig, Media Molecule, Guerrilla.
Why can't MS buy studios too?
Buy the competition? Are you serious?
I know you don't like MS but damn, buying studios is buying your competition?
cartoon_soldier
Member
What...
Conclusions from numbers leaked / read in the thread so far for 2014:
- PS4 will likely sell the most in US for full year by a relatively small margin assuming XB1 takes December with a similar or lower margin
- To sell the most in US for full year XB1 needs to outperform the PS4 by more in December than November
- PS4 took Jan through October
- XB1 took November and will likely take December
- So far it's actually very close in US now we have more of a full year to view
- will PS4 resume outselling XB1 from January as seasonal profiles change to its favour?
- will MS be able to keep XB1 selling this well from Janurary onwards?
- will MS raise price or keep it lower (I'm guessing keep it lower)?
- will Sony react if sales are closer from January onwards?
I say still provide all the useful unique features for each hardware while providing the unified software; so still use touch screen and 3D features etc but remove them from the hardware that doesn't match. Something like cross buy. Still provide unique experiences too...
Of course not, he is talking about needing to purchase in game currency using real world currency in order to speed up the time it takes for actions to complete in game.
Why would parents buy their kids expensive consoles with $60 games, when they already own a ton of smartphones, tablets, and old computers/laptops with free/cheap games? They also have free online.
From what I have seen from my young cousins, they are having plenty of fun playing clash of clans, minecraft, etc on these devices.
From what I have seen from my young cousins, they are having plenty of fun playing clash of clans, minecraft, etc on these devices.
What were the 360 numbers?
Seems like infoscout were fairly close with their forecast ?
http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/29/x...ack-friday-according-to-market-research-firm/
http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/29/x...ack-friday-according-to-market-research-firm/
Well I'll be.
Well, the year before was pretty spot on too, right?
Could creme or aqua give the percentages of 2014 software sales of family titles (esrb rated early-childhood, everyone, and eveeryone 10+) vs mature titles (teen, mature, adults only) on x1, ps4, and wiiu? I'd buy you a dry aged steak & a snifter of cognac if you're ever in Calgary.
DarthWalden
Banned
It was impossible to tell. They said XBO sold more then PS4 but then PS4 sold more then XBO for the whole month. Due to it being launch month and thanks supply strains it's difficult to say if it's accurate or not.
Simply because MS is the Standard Oil chaebol in this tale and the number of quality studios capable of making AAA retail games is tiny in 2014. Although, my reading of The Race for A New Game Machine and being alive during MS' predatory heyday has colored my view of that company. They might be a bunch of nice guys now.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Does anyone actually think XBO will sell less in December than in November?
I think people are more worried they're gonna Rare/343 'em. There's a slight stigma there.
Papacheeks
Banned
Yes, it will be drastically lower. They may still take December but by a smaller number.
Yes. Still more than ps4 I guess, but less than in November.
I definitely do. Wasn't expecting 1.2 Million from November at all. I'm thinking it will be about a 400K drop.
It's possible because the price cut started in November so most people who wanted an XB1 could have purchased one in that month, but I doubt it. I think the bigger question is will the XB1 outsell the PS4 again in December? If so, will the gap be bigger or smaller than in November?
343 em? MS created them from scratch, they didn't buy them.
Insomniac left Sony because of Sony wanting to force then to give up their own IP.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Interesting. I actually didn't expect Wii U do be that high.
Do we have estimated sales figures for FH2, Halo:MCC by any chance?
I don't know why people keep putting up this idea of Microsoft buying all their studios.
Turn 10 - built by Microsoft.
343 Studios - built by Microsoft
Black Tusk Studios - built by Microsoft.
Mojang - bought by Microsoft.
Rare - bought by Microsoft.
Lion head Studios - bought by Microsoft.
Insomniac - not owned by Microsoft.
Crystal Dynamics - not owned by Microsoft.
Crytek - not owned by Microsoft.
Iron Galaxy - not owned by Microsoft.
Double Helix Studios - not owned by Microsoft.
Playground Games - not owned by Microsoft.
Capcom Vancouver - not owned by Microsoft.
Cloudgine - not owned by Microsoft.
Remedy Entertainment - not owned by Microsoft.
These are all studios that have released exclusives or announced them for Xbox One.
The studios that were bought by Microsoft happened way back except for Mojang which currently has a supported game on every platform except for Nintendo.
Turn 10 - built by Microsoft.
343 Studios - built by Microsoft
Black Tusk Studios - built by Microsoft.
Mojang - bought by Microsoft.
Rare - bought by Microsoft.
Lion head Studios - bought by Microsoft.
Insomniac - not owned by Microsoft.
Crystal Dynamics - not owned by Microsoft.
Crytek - not owned by Microsoft.
Iron Galaxy - not owned by Microsoft.
Double Helix Studios - not owned by Microsoft.
Playground Games - not owned by Microsoft.
Capcom Vancouver - not owned by Microsoft.
Cloudgine - not owned by Microsoft.
Remedy Entertainment - not owned by Microsoft.
These are all studios that have released exclusives or announced them for Xbox One.
The studios that were bought by Microsoft happened way back except for Mojang which currently has a supported game on every platform except for Nintendo.
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