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Seven Force · Jul 28, 2015

Wow, seems like they made everyone happy between both versions.

I'm only halfway through DQ1 on GBC. but this is motivation to pick it back up and afterwards try out the rest of the series, heh.

watershed · Jul 28, 2015

The animations and models on the 3ds version definitely reminded me of Smash 3ds. Very smooth movements.

LiK · Jul 28, 2015

wrowa said:
The PS4 version feels a bit weird to me. The areas are looking great, but it's a bit unusual these days to see environments being so clearly limited by huge cliffs and walls. I wonder if that's just because the game's still early or if the world will limited like this throughout the game. Just looks a bit weird and makes me feel slightly claustrophobic when watching the video.

If it's like DQVIII, I'd expect a bigger world in the final game. Probably still early.

Sir_Crocodile · Jul 28, 2015

Just thought, the 3DS now continues to be able to play every mainline dragon quest game from 4 onwards. Are 1-3 on the Japanese VC?

Kurosaki Ichigo · Jul 28, 2015

Welp, despicable Enix getting me to double dip. Hoping there's story differences between the two versions so you can grasp the world better playing both and it doesn't feel so same-y.

Bit concerned about the home console version being ready for next year if what they shown is the best they could put together. It looks amazing, but it has a prototype feel to it that one year seems little to shake off entirely. Wonder if battles have some surprises since they skipped them.

Really liked what we saw about the portable version as well, looks way ahead development-wise, old-school touches very appreciated. The 3D part is certainly reminiscent of DQVII remake, even if it wouldn't feel as fresh I still want to play that one.

To be honest, I kinda missed a grand trailer for the game, since we got gameplay of two really different looking versions that supposedly tell the same story, but got no world-view, characters, story.

JimPanzer · Jul 28, 2015

Jpop said:
I mean as in extra story scenarios exclusive to either the 3DS or PS4 version or exclusive features like multiplayer ect...

Just examples.

I'm sure (and hope!) the versions will differ in some aspects. The verticality of the PS4 version might not be able to reproduce with one of the screens being 2D on the 3DS version.

AmyS · Jul 28, 2015

SpacePirate Ridley said:
The PS4 and NX versions look absolutely beautiful, super unfinished with lots of work to be done yet (theres clearly not a battle system yet in place for example), but still beautiful.

But its the 3ds version the one that looks super cute and interesting. And it seems to be going along fast and nice.

A funny detail. The circle walled city with the market place below, of PS4/NX video reminded me to the Oxenfurt I read on the Witcher books more, than the Oxenfurt it appears in the final Witcher 3 game.

They only showed the PS4 and 3DS versions. We have no idea what the NX version will look like.

PancakeAlmighty · Jul 28, 2015

*Runs to freezer* "Wake me up when its here!"

wrowa · Jul 28, 2015

Aeana said:
I'll take it. I'm a bit tired of gigantic open environments that take a long time to traverse.

Oh, it's not that I want it to be open-world or anything like that. I just think that using huge cliffs and walls is not quite an elegant approach to hide the end of the game world. I don't need a huge game world, but I like to get the illusion that I'm traversing through a huge world that still has lots of life aside from what I'm able to play. Having a steep cliff next to me isn't quite doing that, it looks too obvious like "the world ends here".

But it's still too early to judge that, anyway.

Mithos · Jul 28, 2015

Ok, THAT came from nowhere...

Nintendo NX :O

Aeana · Jul 28, 2015

Jpop said:
I mean as in extra story scenarios exclusive to either the 3DS or PS4 version or exclusive features like multiplayer ect...

Just examples.

Are you talking about DQ11?
If so, I'd say you're being a bit presumptuous. Not that it has anything to do with what I wrote. The extra story in PS3 is irrelevant to the Ni no Kuni comparison, I just pointed it out because it does set it apart based on what we know

But we have absolutely no idea what's the same or different in DQ11 aside from the director saying that they do have the same main story.

autoduelist · Jul 28, 2015

Bishop89 said:
2 things.

1. 3DS having 3d and top/down sprites at the same time is AMAZING
2. Ps4 version looks fucking fantastic!

Cant wait

I'm surprised so many people seem to like #1. Just looking at a gif of it gave me a headache; my eyes don't know which to look at and try to look at both.

It seems so... unnecessary.

But hey, if people love it, glad they're doing it.

Novel Mike · Jul 28, 2015

When I saw NX my first thought was 'Oh... Wow already!?' That's a damn fine show of support for Nintendo's next console but oddly it still doesn't at all confirm exactly what the NX is, is it a tech heavy system like the PS4 (or at least capable of running UE4?) or is it a low quality system that is both a console and portable like many people have been guessing for awhile now.

With a game being released on both 3DS and PS4 it really could go either way. I'm happy either way but man I really didn't see that coming.

rhandino · Jul 28, 2015

Looking at the footage of the 3DS version and i am in love about how you can choose between 3D or 2D battles.

Now let me dream about this coming to this side of the ocean along the other 3DS games T-T

Sheroking · Jul 28, 2015

hongcha said:
No "NX version" was shown and we have no idea what it will look like.

The logical assumption is that it's a port of some kind based on the PS4 version. Doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be made ground up, although I guess it could be.

Interesting implications anyway. Didn't think the first game announced for NX would be a major third party game.

efyu_lemonardo · Jul 28, 2015

cripterion said:
I'm glad we're finally seeing more games using it. Feels like it's been a long time coming.

thankfully it looks like a good engine for a change.

Lafiel · Jul 28, 2015

I'm buying both versions day-one.

Gotta say I'm seriously hyped. I need more DQ in my life. It's been too long since I last played one.

jRPG · Jul 28, 2015

I genuinely don't think they could have satisfied me more. Two versions! I had hoped for a home console release, but I didn't even consider two differently developed versions. And the inclusion of the retro screen is genius, and will surely be a joy. I'll almost certainly be picking up both.

CrisKre · Jul 28, 2015

Great day for SE and DQ fans. Plus, out of nowhere, NX got a lot more interesting. That's a bigger 3rd party game than Wii u ever had. (assuming its a home console, and no, dq X doesn't cut it because: online)

I will speculate that since there is no dq X vita coming, and it was announced for ps4/NX alongside XI, I'm inclined to believe we are talking about a home console here. Just my 2 cents.

Tabris · Jul 28, 2015

Aeana said:
Are you seriously complaining about too many games?
Tabris. Come on.

Yeah, when they split up development and/or creative resources.

I rather have one focused game then two split games. It worked for Ni No Kuni though, but it was different release dates and more like NDS was 1.0 and PS3 was 2.0 of that game.

While these look radically different. May as well been 2 separate games.

Caronte · Jul 28, 2015

Sheroking said:
The logical assumption is that it's a port of some kind based on the PS4 version. Doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be made ground up, although I guess it could be.

Interesting implications anyway. Didn't think the first game announced for NX would be a major third party game.

Or it could be the 3DS version slightly improved (if it's a handheld). We know nothing of the NX, and this is not the thread to talk about it.

WillyFive · Jul 28, 2015

autoduelist said:
I'm surprised so many people seem to like #1. Just looking at a gif of it gave me a headache; my eyes don't know which to look at and try to look at both.

It seems so... unnecessary.

But hey, if people love it, glad they're doing it.

It's extreme fan service, and a really interesting way of using dual screens. Love it, makes it look more interesting than the empty looking PS4 version (which I wonder if it will be finished in time to release alongside it).

Eternal Flame · Jul 28, 2015

Wow the combo of 2d on the bottom and 3d on top is really amazing to me. Like what a great idea. I mean Just imagine a game like suikoden 5 in 3-d on top, and a 2d version of it like suikoden 2 on the bottom. Thats like one of the first things that popped in my mind. That would be so cool to me.

But that aside I'm a console guy so I'm more looking forward to the ps4 version. Its looking good so far but, I wish there was a bit of battle gameplay, but its looking a bit early. Main character reminds me of an even more generic trunks though..

NX doesn't even matter. Don't even know what that system will be like, and ps4 already got me covered. Dunno why that's even exciting news.

Jpop · Jul 28, 2015

Aeana said:
Are you talking about DQ11?
If so, I'd say you're being a bit presumptuous. Not that it has anything to do with what I wrote. The extra story in PS3 is irrelevant to the Ni no Kuni comparison, I just pointed it out because it does set it apart based on what we know

But we have absolutely no idea what's the same or different in DQ11 aside from the director saying that they do have the same main story.

Yeah I was.

Though you're right.

I guess I need to wait to see more of the two games.

AmyS · Jul 28, 2015

Novel Mike said:
When I saw NX my first thought was 'Oh... Wow already!?' That's a damn fine show of support for Nintendo's next console but oddly it still doesn't at all confirm exactly what the NX is, is it a tech heavy system like the PS4 (or at least capable of running UE4?) or is it a low quality system that is both a console and portable like many people have been guessing for awhile now.

That's not some SE would disclose, of course. What NX is, and what it consists of is 100% upto Nintendo to reveal.

dark_inferno · Jul 28, 2015

NX is a surprise.

But those screenshots are a real beauty.

Open world with mountains to climb etc is great. Not interested in the 3DS version (Vita with better Resolution/no second screen would have been better).

Also support for a console we know nothing about. Well i hope NX is cheaper than WiiU.

Sir_Crocodile · Jul 28, 2015

Tabris said:
Yeah, when they split up development and/or creative resources.

I rather have one focused game then two split games. It worked for Ni No Kuni though, but it was different release dates and more like NDS was 1.0 and PS3 was 2.0 of that game.

While these look radically different. May as well been 2 separate games.

Aren't they farming out loads of these to external studios though? I don't think any one dev is being spread thin here.

Not like there's a vast amount of talent internal to Square anymore.

Aostia · Jul 28, 2015

autoduelist said:
I'm surprised so many people seem to like #1. Just looking at a gif of it gave me a headache; my eyes don't know which to look at and try to look at both.

It seems so... unnecessary.

But hey, if people love it, glad they're doing it.

I think it's a great way of having some sort of map on the bottom screen, plus I really like that you can instantly have also the 2D view for battles (with menu in the bottom screen).

Sheroking said:
The logical assumption is that it's a port of some kind based on the PS4 version. Doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be made ground up, although I guess it could be.

Interesting implications anyway. Didn't think the first game announced for NX would be a major third party game.

There is no logical assumption right now, because we don't know if NX will be a handheld, an home console, a hybrid, if it will run UE4 or not, how much powerful it will be and so on.

KiTA · Jul 28, 2015

A few screencaps from /u/olitod on reddit:

2D combat mode:

3D combat mdoe:

Aeana · Jul 28, 2015

Tabris said:
Yeah, when they split up development and/or creative resources.

I rather have one focused game then two split games. It worked for Ni No Kuni though, but it was different release dates and more like NDS was 1.0 and PS3 was 2.0 of that game.

But they're not doing that. Each game has its own team and developer. The only games I feel like this could possibly apply is FF15/KH3, and definitely not to a single one of these DQ projects, which are all directed by different people, produced by different people, and developed by different companies. And outsourcing is the norm for the series. Only one DQ game has ever had internal development in the series's history, and that's 10.

Hibiki Kurosawa · Jul 28, 2015

Oh wow cool. PS4 version looks like it's really going to be something.

The Dutch Slayer · Jul 28, 2015

Pfff now that its not f2p mobile confirmed.
I don't care what platform it is.
Awesome

Arzehn · Jul 28, 2015

The question now is - when will we see more?

Maybe something at TGS?

zeox · Jul 28, 2015

Both versions look great! now to hold my breath until they announce when it comes out in europe

oh btw, has there been any word on the 3ds version of DQ8 coming out in the west?

Tabris · Jul 28, 2015

Aeana said:
But they're not doing that. Each game has its own team and developer. The only games I feel like this could possibly apply is FF15/KH3, and definitely not to a single one of these DQ projects, which are all directed by different people, produced by different people, and developed by different companies. And outsourcing is the norm for the series. Only one DQ game has ever had internal development in the series's history, and that's 10.

But they share the same creative team and they are working on both I thought, thus splitting their focus.

RPGamer92 · Jul 28, 2015

Did they say whether the party members were set or customizable?

DNAbro · Jul 28, 2015

Anybody know how Japan is reacting?

TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared · Jul 28, 2015

First NX game eh, kinda exciting.

MatrixMan.EXE · Jul 28, 2015

toddhunter said:
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't know anything.

"We want DQ11 on the NX! Start developing!"
"Cool...so what is the NX going to be like?"
"Umm.. Make a PS4 and 3ds version, that should cover it"

Seems like a square approach.

NX is launching next year. Of course they know.

Newtype-001 · Jul 28, 2015

The Dutch Slayer said:
Pfff now that its not f2p mobile confirmed.
I don't care what platform it is.
Awesome

It was confirmed not to be a mobile for ages.

Opus Angelorum · Jul 28, 2015

Interesting they announced a version for the NX, considering we probably won't know anything about it until this time next year.

Aeana · Jul 28, 2015

RPGamer92 said:
Did they say whether the party members were set or customizable?

The hero they showed is set, not customizable. That's all we know.

Orakio Rob · Jul 28, 2015

EDIT: I guess I shouldn't speculate about the NX here, sorry.

Kenzodielocke · Jul 28, 2015

People shouldn't be too concerned about DQXI looking a bit empty on PS4. UE4 is a great engine and as KH3 shows, development is great with this engine so we'll see more the next time, maybe TGS.

bomma_man · Jul 28, 2015

AniHawk said:
i'm not sure nintendo let them do that. i would think horii just fucking said it because he's 61 and doesn't give a shit.

Only 61? I thought he was older than that. Or am I thinking of the racist probable Unit 571 supporter guy?

Aeana · Jul 28, 2015

bomma_man said:
Only 61? I thought he was older than that. Or am I thinking of the racist probable Unit 571 supporter guy?

Sugiyama is 84.

Man God · Jul 28, 2015

Tabris said:
Yeah, when they split up development and/or creative resources.

I rather have one focused game then two split games. It worked for Ni No Kuni though, but it was different release dates and more like NDS was 1.0 and PS3 was 2.0 of that game.

While these look radically different. May as well been 2 separate games.

One important note here.

Every numbered DQ game has been done by an outside studio. Even X, which we originally thought was an internal project, was done mainly by Orca. That means outside of funding and a bit of coordination these games don't effect SE development one bit. They're doing the 3DS game to make money in Japan. They're doing the PS4 version to hopefully goose the numbers for Japanese sales of games they are marketing as global titles. This is a total win/win scenario assuming the development is smooth. SE isn't in any immediate financial danger like they were a few years ago.

Magicpaint · Jul 28, 2015

I'm not a big fan of how the PS4 version looks

I love the scale and all but the visual style is a step back from DQVIII imo. It looks more like Heroes than DQVIII/Ni No Kuni toon shading style that I was hoping for more. 3DS version is very interesting though and looks much further in development. Will get both.

bomma_man · Jul 28, 2015

Orakio Rob said:
Oh yeaaaaaah! NX, baby!!!!

Also, DQX on NX makes me hopeful that the NX will run Wii U games. If SE is re-releasing the game on the NX, maybe the architectures are at least similar enough to make porting games easier. If this is true, Nintendo can launch the NX with a huge line-up of great games.

It's also coming to PS4... And is already on PC

Tabris · Jul 28, 2015

Orakio Rob said:
Oh yeaaaaaah! NX, baby!!!!

Also, DQX on NX makes me hopeful that the NX will run Wii U games. If SE is re-releasing the game on the NX, maybe the architectures are at least similar enough to make porting games easier. If this is true, Nintendo can launch the NX with a huge line-up of great games.

I have a feeling it's the other way around. DQX on PS4 and NX may be more similar / share similar code base from Windows PC, as it can't be a coincidence they announce both here.

I know we can't really do NX guesses here though so I'll just leave it at that.

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