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Nintendo files patent application for stationary game console without optical disk
vagabondarts
Member
New Nintendo system..... I'm ready GAF.
Thanks to the posters that are breaking down this obtuse patent language for us commoners.
Thanks to the posters that are breaking down this obtuse patent language for us commoners.
BRocknRolla
Member
That would be a dream machine... I could get all my Nintendo in one place.
They can depending on the flash they are based on. Even RAM prices greatly vary based on speed and features.
CrowdChant
Member
Ultra Nintendo with cartridges confirmed.
gamestop makes most of its money on used game sales. a primarily dd platform will get the pspgo treatment there.
it really would be
I play most of my handheld games right here on the couch. may as well put them on the TV.
valkillmore
Member
You know it. Nothing like it.
MikeE21286
Member
So this is the Apple TV/iPhone concept. Powerful handheld that can connect to your TV through a dongle of some sort? Probably Wii U level of power...
GAME CONSOLE NX
I simply "translated" the patent to the best of my ability, cutting out the fluff. There's a lot of fluff.
It's a game console! The example console has no disc drive. You connect it to a television and play video games.
The example is totally of a Digital-only console but this in no way restricts any other NX hardware to be exactly that, says patent. Digital-only can be made on the cheap tho, says patent.
Passage literally confirming NX device with disc drive (bolded is my notes):
Other hardware configs need not neccessarily include an HDD. (Like, say a portable device? Hmm?)
Has HDD, Internet, CPU, GPU, RAM, like a home console would
OS Kernel has it's own memory, and it's fast so the console can boot faster
Can check if the main OS has been tampered with by checking additional storage and restore corrupted high-security data
OS has full multitasking support
You can download games to the console
Games installed to HDD
Games have code for more than one hardware configuration and the hardware determines what code is the right one to run (NX is a platform like iOS, duh it has this)
External hard drives can be connected and you can install games to them
Can emulate different HDD read/write speeds primarily for games that have special code for external HDDs, can seemingly pretend that the HDD is an optical disc as well. SPEED CONTROL
Controller with rechargeable battery (Pro Controller?)
Interesting passages:
Can charge the GamePad equivalent by plugging it into the console.
Save files are stored on the HDD O_O OMG WOW
Can read/write SD cards. This allows for retail distribution or OS updates using SD cards. Really any data that you can think of putting on an SD card, can be used. No confirmation on anything.
I simply "translated" the patent to the best of my ability, cutting out the fluff. There's a lot of fluff.
It's a game console! The example console has no disc drive. You connect it to a television and play video games.
The example is totally of a Digital-only console but this in no way restricts any other NX hardware to be exactly that, says patent. Digital-only can be made on the cheap tho, says patent.
Passage literally confirming NX device with disc drive (bolded is my notes):
Other hardware configs need not neccessarily include an HDD. (Like, say a portable device? Hmm?)
Has HDD, Internet, CPU, GPU, RAM, like a home console would
OS Kernel has it's own memory, and it's fast so the console can boot faster
Can check if the main OS has been tampered with by checking additional storage and restore corrupted high-security data
OS has full multitasking support
You can download games to the console
Games installed to HDD
Games have code for more than one hardware configuration and the hardware determines what code is the right one to run (NX is a platform like iOS, duh it has this)
External hard drives can be connected and you can install games to them
Can emulate different HDD read/write speeds primarily for games that have special code for external HDDs, can seemingly pretend that the HDD is an optical disc as well. SPEED CONTROL
Controller with rechargeable battery (Pro Controller?)
Interesting passages:
Controller with screen. GamePad support? Could be new controller, too. Will probably have at LEAST the functionality of the GamePad.
Can charge the GamePad equivalent by plugging it into the console.
Save files are stored on the HDD O_O OMG WOW
Bolded could be interpreted as being the oft-touted "high texture download" option.
Can read/write SD cards. This allows for retail distribution or OS updates using SD cards. Really any data that you can think of putting on an SD card, can be used. No confirmation on anything.
ArchedThunder
Banned
No, this is a home console.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Is he? Then why are consoles dominated by physical media?
Sorry Salva, PS4 has proven BC isn't as important as people think it is and Nintendo needs the money!
Interceptor
Banned
The gamepad returns and a console with no optical drive?..
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Told you so. ^^
Nice post. Thanks.
Especially the bolded.
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Told you so. ^^
Nice post. Thanks.
Especially the bolded.
Well, if they change the architecture from PPC (something they should have done already), BC is not going to happen
As much as I love Playstation, with Sony and Microsoft you just know what you'll get with the next console - more power, mostly same controller. With Nintendo you NEVER know what they'll come up with
This was my exact impression.
Jonneh3003
Banned
That is only true for the PC platform, physical still dominates consoles and a vast amount of people only buy used games, the average consumer doesnt buy every game for $60.
I honestly think its fine, I expect something similar to the Wii games you can download on the Wii U now so everyone who gets NX can play Wonderful 101
Has this been answered?
SPEED CONTROL
is my guess as for the general thing in a games console getting patented here
the patent goes into sick details bro about that feature
ArchedThunder
Banned
Mysterious, find out on the next episode.
cheers.
levyjl1988
Banned
Digital is inevitable.
+ Save on shipping costs.
+ Cut out the middle man.
+ Save on plastic and paper
There's barely any instruction manuals anyway for current gen games.
Plastic cases are the cheap plastic kind these days that easily break.
This is evidence of that.
They need more of that retail shelf space anyways for consoles and selling amiibos.
+ Save on shipping costs.
+ Cut out the middle man.
+ Save on plastic and paper
There's barely any instruction manuals anyway for current gen games.
Plastic cases are the cheap plastic kind these days that easily break.
This is evidence of that.
They need more of that retail shelf space anyways for consoles and selling amiibos.
Bacon_Boss
Member
Display on the controller doesn't necessarily mean something as big as the game pad. Could very well be as small as the bottom half of the 3ds with pro controller form factor and better triggers.
Cartridges would be great, and I'm sure, and being rewritable sounds like faster saves to me. We shall see.
Cartridges would be great, and I'm sure, and being rewritable sounds like faster saves to me. We shall see.
Obliterator
Member
Ah nice catch sinxtanx! It does seem to mention a possible disc based NX.
This has gotta be NX by the way. The detail here is hella intricate. Its not a one off patented "idea" its the full breakdown of a new console
This has gotta be NX by the way. The detail here is hella intricate. Its not a one off patented "idea" its the full breakdown of a new console
But there's also the following issues...
- Pissing off retailers
- People with limited access to the internet
- People with data caps
- Possible DRM issues (are you games truly your games?)
Basically Dualshock 4 with a screen instead of a touchpad^^
This, except with Nintendo quality parts.
Interceptor
Banned
Yep but with one exception.
They will keep retail to some degree. Small amounts of physical catridges/SD cards as standalone or with an amiibo.
Actually we could see the return of download kiosks. No internet at home or on a quota?
Bring you blank cartridge/handheld and just download it via the Nintendo Download Kiosk over local Wifi. The gamecode will then run on all your compatible NX devices.
We all know how Nintendo just loves to revisit old ideas.. And they actually did something like this with the Nintendo Disk Writer Kiosk.
http://kotaku.com/digital-distribution-could-learn-from-nintendo-s-disk-w-1542718404
Bonus? Keep customers happy. Keep retail happy.
(Without the stupid deletion part of course...)
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Hopefully not, I hope they drop the old architecture and do the best system they can.
Obliterator
Member
I really wonder if they are launching the new handheld and home console at the same time. That OS description straight up describes how its going to run on different hardware, iOS and Android style.
Muppet of a Man
Member
Even high speed 32 gb SD cards are cheap B2C online at major outlets like Office Depot:
32 gb SD Card
You figure Nintendo could procure these same SD Cards or better in bulk for a fraction of that price ($12.99).
32 gb SD Card
You figure Nintendo could procure these same SD Cards or better in bulk for a fraction of that price ($12.99).
Maintenance
Member
Actually we could see the return of download kiosks. No internet at home or on a quota?
Bring you blank cartridge/handheld and just download it via the Nintendo Download Kiosk over local Wifi. The gamecode will then run on all your compatible NX devices.
We all know how Nintendo just loves to revisit old ideas.. And they actually did something like this with the Nintendo Disk Writer Kiosk.
http://kotaku.com/digital-distribution-could-learn-from-nintendo-s-disk-w-1542718404
This seems such a bad/obtuse idea (since most places outside US/Canada/Europe/Japan won't have this thing, the places where you would actually need it, with bad internet support and the like) that I don't doubt Nintendo would actually do this.
It fits them like a glove.
This would be the tricky part. You could release both at the same time. But if Nintendo were to stagger the release of each version of the NX, the console would have to come first. If the handheld comes out first, you'd run the risk of the NX Console being seen as the Vita TV to the NX Handheld's Vita.
Sammy Samusu
Member
If anything, this patent implies that the NX is instead an NX platform with multiple versions. Think of it this way, the NX Console & the NX Handheld would have the same architecture, the same OS, & most of the same games.
Interceptor
Banned
You need it if you just don´t want to download 20+GB on your handheld. And maybe special shop discounts. I like the idea. The kiosk could double as an actual demo station as well, doesn´t need much space, the hardware would be cheap and can be updated via the net and retailers are happy to still get a share. win win.
TheXfactor
Member
still dont know to be honest but it is looking likely that its going to be a console
Obliterator
Member
NX is both a handheld and a dedicated home console judging by the patent. Now its not a hybrid system, they are both dedicated stand alone hardware. But the OS is universal and made to function on different pieces of hardware. Similar to a mobile OS
Sammy Samusu
Member
That would be great. I want the handheld version.
Actually, this part...
...implies that the NX will be as we speculated, a platform with multiple form factors (EX: an NX Console & an NX Handheld).Summarization of the Patent by sinxtanx said:
Obliterator
Member
This. Think of NX how you think of Android. Not that this is a mobile phone but in that NX is more of a platform for multiple pieces of hardware more than it is a single device.
Essentially Nintendo is unifying their ecosystem by the looks of it
Maintenance
Member
Mind you, I don't think your idea is bad, not that, and it certainly looks like something Nintendo would do, but it reminds me of stuff like doing a promo in the Nintendo World Store instead of something global like Amazon (yes, I know Amazon and Nintendo had a feud, I'm just using it as an example).