I think Xan Kriegor was talking about the gameplay, not the graphics. As far as I'm aware Ryse doesn't do anything that couldn't have been done on last-gen hardware except for its (admittedly rather impressive) visuals.
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Rise of the Tomb Raider - Xbox 360 Gameplay (woah, Nixxes)
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I think Xan Kriegor was talking about the gameplay, not the graphics. As far as I'm aware Ryse doesn't do anything that couldn't have been done on last-gen hardware except for its (admittedly rather impressive) visuals.
Dictator93
Member
That could be said of quite a lot of games. Just toss out all the secondary physicalization, complex animation, and expensive shading/draw distance and manyy current gen games could run on the old machines.
AC Unity and AC Syndicate. I have an extremely hard time believing those games could be made to run on the last gen systems, the scale is simply too big. It would be like trying to make GTA5 work on the original Xbox.
Yes, that's the point they were trying to make. The only reason I singled out Ryse was because Kezen used it as an example.
Maybe, but the fact remains that there are games which could not be downscaled to the old consoles because of the visual bar they set.
PROJECTZERO
Banned
Looks very good. 
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
How what works?
ROTTR on 360 is basically running on an updated version of 2013's Tomb Raider.
ROTTR on X1 is just running on Tomb Raiders Remastered engine that they did for DE, same engine just a different version of it.
As for That's not how things work, I didn't mean the currentgen version was downgraded for 360, but
Yes they do, Beyond Two Soul's was made as a PS4 engine and then transferred to PS3.
It gave them better results l.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
We can't know for sure that the game was made with 360 in mind and that it should be able to run on it smoothly, but it does look like it. And i wouldn't be surprised,certain parts really look last gen to me, like the snowy hub area. I definitely believe if they had went full current gen with this, it would have looked even better.
I am just glad as hell that other exclusives like QB, Crackdown and Gears are at least only for Xbox One. This whole cross gen shit should stop now anyway.
I am just glad as hell that other exclusives like QB, Crackdown and Gears are at least only for Xbox One. This whole cross gen shit should stop now anyway.
Nameless
Member
Is the 360 version content complete? If so, sold. I always get super nostalgic for Tomb Raider during the holidays.
DE on PS4 is absolutely gorgeous. With luck Nixxes will be working on the Rise port too.
DE on PS4 is absolutely gorgeous. With luck Nixxes will be working on the Rise port too.
Nixxes is amazing. There is also a 300mb day one patch (according to a player on TR forums) that improves the visuals even further compared to the leaked videos. Sorry about the black crush in the screens but these give an idea.
(missing sun effect)
(missing plants)
(missing plant shadows)
(missing wet efect and shadows)
spazchicken
Member
Thank you. My point exactly. I'm not saying the game doesn't look great though.
That's a weird choice, since Ryse was a 360 game first
this worries me a bit. if they're still putting this much effort into porting games to an old console (which i'm sure a lot of people are happy that still haven't jumped to current gen)
how long are we going to be in this generation for? i feel like this gen is so underpowered, i really do not want to be in it for more than 7 years.
how long are we going to be in this generation for? i feel like this gen is so underpowered, i really do not want to be in it for more than 7 years.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nixxes is amazing. There is also a 300mb day one patch (according to a player on TR forums) that improves the visuals even further compared to the leaked videos. Sorry about the black crush in the screens but these give an idea.
(missing sun effect)
(missing plants)
(missing plant shadows)
(missing wet efect and shadows)
Are these before/after the patch ? or 360 vs XB1 ?
because if they're before and after the day 1 patch, that's a pretty notable update. Damn Nixxess. This seems like a fantastic port.
Curious... Wonder if they fixed the colour banding with the glow stick.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Yeah, I want this to be over too. Good thing most upcoming X1 exclusives are exactly that, not also coming for 360. Actually are there any coming?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
This. They would have to completely change the layout of the 1:1 buildings. Use different crowd tech, have way less animations, etc.
Imagine the 360 or ps3 trying to render this scene.
^ And that's only half the full crowd. Which you immediately drop then into and explore.
Speaking of, they did a great job with this port. Best looking 360 game?
Ryse was developed specifically for the Xbox One. There was not 360 version.
Not the Ryse that ended up shipping, no.
The Ryse that was meant to be a showcase for Kinect was not anywhere near as impressive graphically.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
It was originally a kinect game. Obviously it went through some massive changes before it became the one that was released.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Jesus, with these added effects it looks even more close to the Xbox One. Absolutely crazy.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Probably still Halo 4 or Forza Horizon, but this is definitely a great send-off. One last show of the console's capabilities. Thank god BLOPS III is not it.
This is all I ask (I trust Nixxes to deliver as they have done a phenomenal job on TR 2013 PC).
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Maybe it's just me, but it's just fucked up that the Xbox One is still coping with AA issues when the freaking last gen version looks this good. Not to mention non full HD cutscenes. But again, we haven't seen both games on a big screen yet. At the end of the day the resolution differences should be really noticeable.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Wasn't it a 360 Kinect project to start with, called Codename Kingdoms?
Uh, let's not get crazy here. A comparison has already been made. The 360 looks great for what it is, but the XB1 version looks way better.
That version was dropped. The Ryse that ended up releasing was completely developed specifically for the Xbox One hardware.
Garrett Hawke
Member
That comparison was apparently pre patch. A lot of the missing effects in the comparison appear to have been added. I imagine the XB1 will still look noticeably better, though. Hope my copy arrives soon!
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
Beat the game in 10 hours.
Overall, it's great but I still prefer the last one.
Pros:
- Solid graphics, same great gameplay
- So. Many. Collectibles. Holy shit.
- A lot of good puzzles, challenge tombs
Cons:
- Not a ton of variety in environments
- Frame-rate drops in combat
- Game is way too easy even on hard
Overall, it's great but I still prefer the last one.
Pros:
- Solid graphics, same great gameplay
- So. Many. Collectibles. Holy shit.
- A lot of good puzzles, challenge tombs
Cons:
- Not a ton of variety in environments
- Frame-rate drops in combat
- Game is way too easy even on hard
Wowfunhappy
Member
How is the story in comparison?
I mean, I know the story in TR1 wasn't exactly groundbreaking, but I thought that it was really well told, and easy to get emotionally invested in while playing.
Edit: Also, how easy is it to ignore the collectibles? Does the game make a big deal about them?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
How's that part of pros?
N7Commander95
Member
Tomb Raider collectibles are awesome. Every object has a back story, or a bit of archaeological knowledge. And plus, the collectables tie into the experience system, so they have a point.
chronic_archaic
Member
Very easy. You can go through the game without bothering with them if you want, but a bunch you'll just stumble upon and they give you XP and can occasionally make you understand languages more.
Y'all act like the 360/PS3 era had hideous graphics or something.
Great job Nixxes but this game looks like more TR 2013 but with way more scale with tweaks to the gameplay...not graphics.
This is a day one for me but we got to five more credit to the 10 year hardware that is 360, why you think it lasted as long as it did.
Great job Nixxes but this game looks like more TR 2013 but with way more scale with tweaks to the gameplay...not graphics.
This is a day one for me but we got to five more credit to the 10 year hardware that is 360, why you think it lasted as long as it did.
I doubt that. I expect a great PC port that will scale as low as the 360. This won't be from the ground up.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
Similiar to TR1, its okay.
Easy to ignore.
Genuinely impressed they've apparently followed through with puzzles.
So on environment variety, is TR '13 more varied by comparison? The larger areas don't make an impact in the new game?
Gameplay? Aren't essentially just using the same controllers from last gen anyway? Gameplay isn't taxing, ask Nintendo. This is about graphics and scale.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
The only thing that matters is if they are fun to collect, if level design allows for fun creative exploration that makes collect/get things fun at all.
That wasn't the case with TR2013, and the fact they decided to deseminate just a ton of stuff instead of making each collectible worth, tells me that they kept that nuissance in the sequel.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Impressive as hell. Maybe they should have got these folks on Blops 3.