Jonneh3003
Banned
Thanks for the effort OP but these don't look good to me. Games like this were made for their native resolution.
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Sega Saturn games in 4K resolution.
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sammyCYBORG
Member
By far the generation which has aged worse visually. I still kinda like it due to nostalgia, but deep down I know it looks like fucking shitttt.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Mah scanlines
AM2 decided to traded resolution for lightning effects.
Which certainly made sense for Fighting Vipers, which Fighter's Megamix uses as a base. It wasn't just lighting either... there was the added geometry of the 3d caged arenas that were destructible, along with the breakable armor that the characters wore.
MrCunningham
Member
Sonic Jam's Sonic World using Yabause in OpenGL:
Yup, wrong aspect ratio again. But there is no real way to enforce a proper aspect ratio in fullscreen using Yabause it seems. Also, Sonic World is a little messed up as it is missing the floor and sky textures. Also I can't display this in 4K on my PC. So 1440p is all you get. The Sonic model doesn't look too bad as he is made out of flat shaded polygons with gouraud shading.
Yabause is such a rough emulator. Really prefer the no-frills SSF.
Yup, wrong aspect ratio again. But there is no real way to enforce a proper aspect ratio in fullscreen using Yabause it seems. Also, Sonic World is a little messed up as it is missing the floor and sky textures. Also I can't display this in 4K on my PC. So 1440p is all you get. The Sonic model doesn't look too bad as he is made out of flat shaded polygons with gouraud shading.
Yabause is such a rough emulator. Really prefer the no-frills SSF.
Can't you set your resolution to 1920x1440 before launching the emulator?
celsowmbr
Banned
It is Fighters Megamix
MrCunningham
Member
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
People always complain about this but I'll never understand why. I'd rather have my game fill the screen than have any black bars.
My RetroArch is set to always be 16:9 with Easymode CRT across the board. Looks incredible.
Because the assets were made to be displayed at 4:3, not to be crushed like that and look unnatural. I forget about black bars after a while, I never get used to characters looking horribly deformed.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Doesn't look crushed to me. Personal preference I guess. The black bars kill it for me!
Because everything looks much fatter due to it being vertically squished. For example, things that should look like circles become ovals. You really don't see anything wrong with the Virtua Fighter 2 shots?
What I don't understand is why anyone would be happy with an image that is clearly distorted just so they don't have some unused space on their screen.
2.1 is just a balance update. You can choose between 2.0 and 2.1 modes in the options in the Saturn port.
That's a Fighters Megamix shot anyway, it didn't look as good as VF2.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Nothing wrong whatsoever. I prefer it.
I understand what you are saying and I am fully aware that the original image was 4:3. However the distortion you mention really doesn't bother me at all and in fact after a while you don't even notice that "circles become ovals" (and in fact they still more or less look like circles, really).
My preference is glorious full screen action over shitty unused black space.
MrCunningham
Member
New screenshot images in 4:3 at 1920x1440:
These look awesome.
At least they don't turn into a wobbly surrealist painting like PS1 3D does.
Thaedolus
Member
...I think I'll take the original resolutions on a CRT. Sometimes 3D games look better when you crank the resolution up, but those early era games...woof. The lack of fidelity on the original hardware actually helps the presentation, because your mind sort of makes up for the gaps.
Honestly besides Sonic Jam and Sega Rally (which I agree looked better at original res), I feel like the other games posted here don't scale up too badly.
nkarafo
Member
Yeah, PS1 games are pretty bad with their unstable polygons and all, but aren't the plugins that improve graphics and resolution also add perspective correction as well?
All 3 consoles look bad at very high resolutions but i think PS1 and N64 look a bit better because they look less "boxy" than Saturn games do and use less 2D/cardboard assets.
For my money, VF2 is an OK looking game in screenshots, given its age, but one of the strongest aspects of its visuals is the animation.
Also the 4:3 images look far better than the unnecessarily distorted images.
Interesting thread. Even if the games don't actually look 'better' at this resolution, it is neat to see all the assets in more detail.
Also the 4:3 images look far better than the unnecessarily distorted images.
Interesting thread. Even if the games don't actually look 'better' at this resolution, it is neat to see all the assets in more detail.
It's not out of any love for 4:3, friend. I'd be 100% OK with widescreen shots provided that the aspect ratio is adjusted accordingly.
MrCunningham
Member
Some screen grabs from Virtua Cop:
Shame that the visuals are very buggy when OpenGL is enabled, because the Saturn version of Virtua Cop looks pretty good at a higher resolution. Here's what the game looks like without OpenGL enabled on the same emulator:
A lot of things are missing.
Few more screenshots:
Virtua Fighter 1:
Virtua Fighter 2:
Shame that the visuals are very buggy when OpenGL is enabled, because the Saturn version of Virtua Cop looks pretty good at a higher resolution. Here's what the game looks like without OpenGL enabled on the same emulator:
A lot of things are missing.
Few more screenshots:
Virtua Fighter 1:
Virtua Fighter 2:
Xbudz
Member
Sonic Jam's Sonic World using Yabause in OpenGL:
Yup, wrong aspect ratio again. But there is no real way to enforce a proper aspect ratio in fullscreen using Yabause it seems.
Ahh, I forgot to try Sonic Jam. Such a great compilation. That's too bad about the ground texture. Emulation is so weird.
Thanks man, I'm adding this quote to the OP.
PdotMichael
Banned
The use of texture filters is the worse crime anyway,
I don't mind seeing these up rendered shots. But preferring 4:3 to stretched is hardly being a "purist."
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
Awesome thread OP, they look incredible at higher resolution.
If anyone has Duke Nukem 3d could they please post how that fares?
If anyone has Duke Nukem 3d could they please post how that fares?
flaviusconstantius
Member
Panzer Dragon Saga actually looks great on Android at higher resolution, though the text in menus does not display properly outside of software mode. Same issue with Dragon Force where the units are invisible with hardware mode.(using the GPD XD)
Some screen grabs from Virtua Cop:
Shame that the visuals are very buggy when OpenGL is enabled, because the Saturn version of Virtua Cop looks pretty good at a higher resolution. Here's what the game looks like without OpenGL enabled on the same emulator:
A lot of things are missing.
Few more screenshots:
Virtua Fighter 1:
Virtua Fighter 2:
There you go. These look incredible. Some more please.
Some screen grabs from Virtua Cop:
Shame that the visuals are very buggy when OpenGL is enabled, because the Saturn version of Virtua Cop looks pretty good at a higher resolution. Here's what the game looks like without OpenGL enabled on the same emulator:
If I didn't see the first screenshot you could easily convince me that second screenshot is just 2D pixel art.
That's pretty rad.
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
Banned
Damn, that is tight OP.
Concrete Charlie
Member
Some nice shots there! Long live Saturn.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Those look tastefully up-res'd! Aside feom the poor aspect ratio.
Saturn Memories
Neo Member
That's fine for games that display at 640x480 but still doesn't do you a lot of good for any other resolution like 352x224.
Edit: Clockwork Knight image was used because it's easy to verify the logo is a perfect circle if you blow it up and count the pixels.