The Last Wizard
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should i play the first 2 games?
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Tamanon said:
Or you could look for one of those 'undub' versions floating around the internet (buy it first though
). From what I've heard the english localization was absolutely miserable, and everyone's seen that "life extending agent" scene from AT1. :| Everyone goes on about how juvenile and overtly perverted the series is, but I've barely noticed. At least in the Japanese script it seems (relatively) subdued and those 'moments' are few and far between...unless you're just talking about the cutesy-wacky-animu nature of the series in general, then carry on.
Apparently the english AT2 also cut out a fuckton of dialogue from the opening and ending of the game, which blows my mind because those are some pretty important scenes. I'd probably recommend finding an undub version even if you can stand the horrendous dubbing. :lol
Lain said:
The voice acting. In the Japanese version almost every major scene had full VA, but from what I've been reading during the localization NIS America didn't bother recording english dialogue for many scenes, opening and ending included and actually removed the japanese VA from those scenes as well so neither of the voice tracks are complete.
Hours Left
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I still can't believe they did that, so incredibly ridiculous.luka said:
AtomskEater
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but it's a 9+ minute preview of the hymmnos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UiwsJn0lfA
rykomatsu
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luka said:Holy crap! I demand original stream stat. Quality! WE NEED MORE QUALITY!
EDIT: Found the nico nico link but looks like it's been removed for copyright violation
EDIT 2: The song at 6:44 is absolutely wonderful. T_T
aw...you changed your avatar...and to the wrong ending too
I ended up going Jakuri ending during my first play through lol
Track @ 3min reminds me a lot of Kaze to Rashinban from Shikata Akiko's most recent album...listening to other tracks, it sounds like she's been given a lot of freedom in the songs...very reminiscent of her recent works in general.
Track @ 6:44 is indeed quite amazing and rather harrowing (in a very good way)
rykomatsu said:aw...you changed your avatar...and to the wrong ending tooI ended up going Jakuri ending during my first play through lol
Better?
I got Cocona end the first time and felt really bad about it. No loli-teil for Croix.
Jakuri seems to me the best choice. Luca and Cloche have each other anyway and they seem perfectly happy with that arrangement. *cough*
that long sample is sooooo good, especially kokia's parts. too beautiful for words.
just noticed tonight that they're releasing a couple special edition sets for the two hymmnos CDs, if anyone else is interested: http://ar-tonelico.jp/at3/at3_cd/h_case.htm
i'm weak vs. special editions, so the order for the normal ones got cancelled and i grabbed the silver set from amazon japan. purple one looks like it's only sold at gust's shop or animate.
just noticed tonight that they're releasing a couple special edition sets for the two hymmnos CDs, if anyone else is interested: http://ar-tonelico.jp/at3/at3_cd/h_case.htm
i'm weak vs. special editions, so the order for the normal ones got cancelled and i grabbed the silver set from amazon japan. purple one looks like it's only sold at gust's shop or animate.
rykomatsu
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zurra said:
Purple one is Animate and Gamers. Animate will have a limited number of cases only for 500yen sometime after the Hymnos tracks are released. They will be for order online only.
If you order any music related album from the gust store, you'll get a Pom towel. If you had ordered early enough, I believe it would have come with an Atelier artbook as well
The first press run of the OST (not Hymnos Concert) comes with Hymnote 3...basically some AT3 sheetmusic. If I'm not mistaken, Hymnote1 and 2 are considered to be some of the rarest collectibles aside from some doujin publication by Nagi and SEC, so if you like collecting stuff, you might want to look into that as well.
rykomatsu
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Website Updated
Some new info on crafting, talk matters, and characters
Equipment crafting takes place at camps and inns, not unlike the Grathmelking used in AT1. Gone is the necessity to walk back and forth between various shops to craft items required for more advanced synthesis. (However, I worry that the small shop talk events that were present in AT2 will be missing...I hope not, since those were pretty fun and helped develop the NPCs quite a bit).
a. Find recipe
b. Craft at an inn or camp w/ heroine of your choice
c. After synthesis, naming event occurs
There's also Artes crafting now.
a. Find recipe
b. Party brainstorms at an inn or camp (unclear whether heroine affects outcome or not)
c. After synthesis, use atleast once in battle
d. Goto camp or inn, and a naming event occurs (there's one that's named カニさん大魔王 for Aoto lol)
Talk matter stays the same as before with a set of 81 for each heroine and occur at inns and camps. They're clearly color coded into types, so if you're trying to find a pesky little one that you've been unsuccessful with, it makes things a bit easier.
a. Magenta = scenario based talk matter
b. Green = dependent on heroine's mental state
c. Blue = found while meandering around the field map or related to item (artes as well?) synthesis
New to AT3 is party talk matter Party matters occur spontaneously, sometimes when you talk to an NPC, sometimes when you find one of those glowing talk matter orbs. Basically it's your party members shooting the breeze about something they see. If you've played FFXIII, think back to the small bits of converations that your party had while traversing the field...conceptually similar, except there are specific triggers at specific locations/NPCs for the conversation to start and it's not in real-time on the map.
Sasha's set up shop in Arkia and sells otherworldly goods...it appaars she may have picked up some habits/traits from Spica. Cocona's makes a return and 2 new characters, Catena and Mute. I think Mute's supposed to be a female based on what Tsuchiya Akira said on the latest AT3 blurb posting he did (basically, supposed to be a counterpart to the typical weak/skinny girls you see as reyvateils in AT).
Also, a hot springs locale in Arkia it appears, so I'm sure some of you know what that means
Some new info on crafting, talk matters, and characters
Equipment crafting takes place at camps and inns, not unlike the Grathmelking used in AT1. Gone is the necessity to walk back and forth between various shops to craft items required for more advanced synthesis. (However, I worry that the small shop talk events that were present in AT2 will be missing...I hope not, since those were pretty fun and helped develop the NPCs quite a bit).
a. Find recipe
b. Craft at an inn or camp w/ heroine of your choice
c. After synthesis, naming event occurs
There's also Artes crafting now.
a. Find recipe
b. Party brainstorms at an inn or camp (unclear whether heroine affects outcome or not)
c. After synthesis, use atleast once in battle
d. Goto camp or inn, and a naming event occurs (there's one that's named カニさん大魔王 for Aoto lol)
Talk matter stays the same as before with a set of 81 for each heroine and occur at inns and camps. They're clearly color coded into types, so if you're trying to find a pesky little one that you've been unsuccessful with, it makes things a bit easier.
a. Magenta = scenario based talk matter
b. Green = dependent on heroine's mental state
c. Blue = found while meandering around the field map or related to item (artes as well?) synthesis
New to AT3 is party talk matter
Party matters occur spontaneously, sometimes when you talk to an NPC, sometimes when you find one of those glowing talk matter orbs. Basically it's your party members shooting the breeze about something they see. If you've played FFXIII, think back to the small bits of converations that your party had while traversing the field...conceptually similar, except there are specific triggers at specific locations/NPCs for the conversation to start and it's not in real-time on the map.Sasha's set up shop in Arkia and sells otherworldly goods...it appaars she may have picked up some habits/traits from Spica. Cocona's makes a return and 2 new characters, Catena and Mute. I think Mute's supposed to be a female based on what Tsuchiya Akira said on the latest AT3 blurb posting he did (basically, supposed to be a counterpart to the typical weak/skinny girls you see as reyvateils in AT).
Also, a hot springs locale in Arkia it appears, so I'm sure some of you know what that means
Awesome stuff. Looks like they're fixing every problem I had with the old system. I loved how each heroine produced something different from recipes, but it was indeed a pain in the ass once your recipes started calling for items from different shops. It was amusing how the 4 main characters had very...personal relationships with the different shopkeepers. It's interesting how square is eliminating shopkeepers altogether in FF while Gust takes the exact opposite approach and places a much greater emphasis on their interactions. Soraneko's recipes were ridiculous.
I don't even want to venture a guess.
rykomatsu said:
I don't even want to venture a guess.
I'm not sure how I feel about the crafting changes. It's clearly more convenient, but I also liked the shop events in AT2. The color coding for the talk topics is a huge improvement though, particularly for OCD types like me.
Anyway, I love party banter so this is a good thing.
I think it's funny that you compare this to FFXIII (which I haven't played yet), since it sounds exactly like party banter, which I first saw in Baldur's Gate 12 years ago :lolrykomatsu said:New to AT3 is party talk matter
Anyway, I love party banter so this is a good thing.
AtomskEater
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I like the idea of party-based talk topics. Although hopefully they won't get rid of shop events either, but I much prefer doing everything from camp rather than having to go between towns.
rykomatsu
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AtomskEater said:
We'll see what happens but obtaining recipes from shop keeper events w/ crafting at inns/camps I think would have been a good balance. Sasha has a store in Arkia, so maybe there will be a little bit of that. I particularly liked Spica's talk events, particularly after Jakuri came into the fray in AT2, but imho, it gave a lot more "life" to some of the NPCs than you would typically expect from most games.
rykomatsu
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New Famitsu's out with some more new info
3rd reyvateil:
AT3 is the conclusion to the series (god fucking dammit...)
The male cast can be purged
3rd reyvateil:
Tilia is indeed the 3rd reyvateil and will be sung by KOKIA and voiced by Sakamoto Maaya...no face shown, only wearing something similar to Shurelia's linkage outfit
AT3 is the conclusion to the series (god fucking dammit...)
The male cast can be purged
RurouniZel
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rykomatsu said:
I knew it! I wish I had been wrong, but I knew it had to be this way. 3 towers, 3 goddesses, 3 games, it made too much sense.
rykomatsu
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RurouniZel said:I knew it! I wish I had been wrong, but I knew it had to be this way. 3 towers, 3 goddesses, 3 games, it made too much sense.
Well, once GUST has an engine in place, they usually beat it to death for a lot of titles...and AT is an extremely rich IP with a pretty detailed fictional timeline. I could see a prequel or series of prequels coming of this. And considering Tsuchiya Akira's been working on the IP for about 13 years now, I don't know if he'd call it an end now. It sounds like he's having way too much fun with the series based on interviews and posts he's made in regards to the series on their website
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
rykomatsu said:Well, once GUST has an engine in place, they usually beat it to death for a lot of titles...and AT is an extremely rich IP with a pretty detailed fictional timeline. I could see a prequel or series of prequels coming of this. And considering Tsuchiya Akira's been working on the IP for about 13 years now, I don't know if he'd call it an end now. It sounds like he's having way too much fun with the series based on interviews and posts he's made in regards to the series on their website
And that's also not counting the obvious "remake 1 and 2 to 3's standard" tactic as well. Little bonus scenarios added on as well.
LOVE & TRUTH
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I'd buy that!RurouniZel said:
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Bebpo said:
The experience is richer if you've played 1 and 2, but you can technically play them seperately. Hell, I played AT2 before 1, and loved them both. Hell, I played 2, then 1, which made me want to play 2 again. XD
rykomatsu
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RurouniZel said:
Ditto...on your first playthrough, you're oblivious to the references of the prior game and when you're playing the first game, you think to yourself "oh yeah that's what that was". Going back to the second after that, it gives the second a bit of a new light and is rather refreshing.
rykomatsu
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Website updated with new Hymnos Preview video.
Really hammered at the moment, but direct link here:
http://ar-tonelico.jp/at3/flv/Special Movie_large.f4v
***warning, borderline NSFW***
Youtube link here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3w_SJ3F7q8
***warning, borderline NSFW***
Really hammered at the moment, but direct link here:
http://ar-tonelico.jp/at3/flv/Special Movie_large.f4v
***warning, borderline NSFW***
Youtube link here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3w_SJ3F7q8
***warning, borderline NSFW***
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I am going to have to prepare myself to drop the $75 or so for the hymmnos tracks.
EDIT: Can anybody tell what's up with the two SKUs for the hymmnos box sets? The sets for the previous games weren't available outside Gust's shop, but this time one of them seems to be available on Amazon.jp?
EDIT: Can anybody tell what's up with the two SKUs for the hymmnos box sets? The sets for the previous games weren't available outside Gust's shop, but this time one of them seems to be available on Amazon.jp?
First thing I noticed: Saki's happy winky dance thing was hilarious and creepy.
Second thing: Backgrounds are facking gorgeous.
Third: I'm sorry I can't get dancing Saki out of my head.
Fourth: I want this game so bad.
Fifth: DANCING SAKI WILL HAUNT MY DREAMS OH GODDDDD
Second thing: Backgrounds are facking gorgeous.
Third: I'm sorry I can't get dancing Saki out of my head.
Fourth: I want this game so bad.
Fifth: DANCING SAKI WILL HAUNT MY DREAMS OH GODDDDD
rykomatsu
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Cosmo Clock 21 said:
There's a the GUST shop/Amazon.co.jp version of the　Hymnocase (CD case) and another for Animate/Gamer's version of the Hymnocase....
Assuming you're talking about the ones shown here:
http://ar-tonelico.jp/at3/at3_cd/h_case.htm
DR2K said:
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Yep. So no difference between the two SKUs other than packaging?
rykomatsu
Member
zurra said:i can accept that their shell would have a b option to enter the chmod in binary, but the newline makes no sense... unless it terminates the command.
how long before someone creates an AT shell with EXEC and METHOD functionality??
You mean AT being able to act as a proxy into Infel Pira? or an AT shell that can be used with both the common dialect and Pastalie dialect?
12 more days
been listening to the short snippets of cosmoflips and rebirthia=protocol (as well as ep=nova) over and over...get goosebumps almost every time. Extremely tempted to get a duplicate copy of the hymnos concert CDs to get the animate/gamer's hymnocase....
rykomatsu
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Website Updated
AT3 Countdown Festa
Will feature VA and dev staff interviews, various gameplay videos, and what not, and will be updated daily until the release of AT3.
AT3 PV#2 is also now available on PSN_Japan
Direct Link Here, approx 315mb
And, as per Sugiyama Noriaki's schpeel today, AT3 will feature "many routes"
Nothing too new if you've been scouring around for famitsu scans. Here's a small selection of new images:
^----looks like Sasha's been dabbling with Hymnos
AT3 Countdown Festa
Will feature VA and dev staff interviews, various gameplay videos, and what not, and will be updated daily until the release of AT3.
AT3 PV#2 is also now available on PSN_Japan
Direct Link Here, approx 315mb
And, as per Sugiyama Noriaki's schpeel today, AT3 will feature "many routes"
Nothing too new if you've been scouring around for famitsu scans. Here's a small selection of new images:
^----looks like Sasha's been dabbling with Hymnos
AtomskEater
Member
Mute's a party member? I must have missed an update.