semiconscious
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my prediction?: if this game doesn't feature either a 'witty banter' slider, or the ability to turn 'witty banter' off, future generations will wonder how anyone was ever able to get through it
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Final Fantasy XV is now just one month away. Place your bets: will it be good?
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my prediction?: if this game doesn't feature either a 'witty banter' slider, or the ability to turn 'witty banter' off, future generations will wonder how anyone was ever able to get through it
...I think this guy hit pretty much everything:
That's about what I gather from everything they have shown so far. I'll add in the boring looking environments (from what they've shown, not what could be laying underneath).
I think that skepticism regarding enemy design isn't a matter of being true to series aesthetics so much as whether the way they behave in battle and how the player can react to them will make for engaging combat in a real-time battle system.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Even if it's the worst game ever, I'll still play through the entire damn thing. It's been too long.
Everything else I can see, but the bolded I find very unlikely. When you even have flying enemies where the only way to keep dealing damage is to warp after them and use aerial combat, enemy design seems fine.
Right, even the most excellent Heavensward is sitting at an 86 average. Critics are a lot harsher these days on just about everything.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
Yes it will get good reviews
Yes it will please (most) fans
No it will not live up to the hype
It'll be lumped in with the "Good" FFs such as the SNES/PS1 era FF games
It absolutely cannot live up to the 'hype' that it has set up before it, it will be impossible. It will be a great game that the developers have worked hard on, and it will please a great number of fans.
Personally, I'm mostly excited that the game will turn out to be good considering the lengthy 'development' time and the changes it's faced. As long as it doesn't turn out to be a turd of a game it'll be a win.
Yes it will please (most) fans
No it will not live up to the hype
It'll be lumped in with the "Good" FFs such as the SNES/PS1 era FF games
It absolutely cannot live up to the 'hype' that it has set up before it, it will be impossible. It will be a great game that the developers have worked hard on, and it will please a great number of fans.
Personally, I'm mostly excited that the game will turn out to be good considering the lengthy 'development' time and the changes it's faced. As long as it doesn't turn out to be a turd of a game it'll be a win.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
I have a feeling it would be like XII. Good reviews, many fans of the series are thrown off by the radical departure from previous instalment but still liked the game for what it is, starts off divisive among fanbase in the first few years after its release but eventually gets recognized as one of the good FF.
Yes.
DriftingSpirit
Member
It will be in the upper 80s meta.
I think it'll be great, expecting reviews to be in the 80-85 range.
Mainly going off of what Gamespot reviewers were saying yesterday in The Lobby, the positives are the combat and world, and that they're just really excited to keep playing. The main criticisms are the story and side quests.
Mainly going off of what Gamespot reviewers were saying yesterday in The Lobby, the positives are the combat and world, and that they're just really excited to keep playing. The main criticisms are the story and side quests.
I think the lines have been pretty clearly drawn. And if that leaked story is 100% still true, I suspect many will be disappointed with that part of the game too.
I know the game has a big uphill battle to win me over and despite positive impressions from previews, I just don't really like action RPGS at all, and the world doesn't sound like it's filled out enough either, with many of the previews mentioning fetch quests. My expectations are at an all-time low.
I'm expecting some hilariously hyperbolic reviews too, if the previews are any indication.
I know the game has a big uphill battle to win me over and despite positive impressions from previews, I just don't really like action RPGS at all, and the world doesn't sound like it's filled out enough either, with many of the previews mentioning fetch quests. My expectations are at an all-time low.
I'm expecting some hilariously hyperbolic reviews too, if the previews are any indication.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
It will be better than average but praised as the greatest thing since fire, the wheel, sliced bread and the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ because it's fans are so emotionally invested in it. They will absolutely refuse to accept anything less than that.
Yes. In the European version there's also German and French VO in addition to English and Japanese.
Neff
Member
I've already bought it, but if it's genuinely good then it'll surpass my expectations. I wasn't keen on the demos, the combat feels way too simplistic, and the story doesn't look very interesting. I don't think it'll be a bad game, just... nice.
On the plus side, it's gorgeous, and it'll be worth a look just to see how a mega budget decade-in-the-making Square Enix title turns out.
On the plus side, it's gorgeous, and it'll be worth a look just to see how a mega budget decade-in-the-making Square Enix title turns out.
semiconscious
Member
okay, then, this'll seriously mitigate my 'witty banter' issue if i can simply go japanese (which i'd prefer anyway)
...HeisenbergWW62
Banned
It will be an 8/10 that everyone (including me) will say is a 9.5/10.
Soooooooooo excited
Soooooooooo excited
Damerman
Member
Aside from the wierd acting and drawn out final battle, i don't think there were any real glaring story issues with kingsglaive. It was shallow with the characters, but the world they built was clearly where they spent all of their resources.
I honestly like kingsglaive despite some of its serious issues.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
It'll be Star Wars Phantom Menace all over again with fans splooging all over themselves and then slowly realizing it's not great. I'd love to be wrong though.
Giriath_89
Member
I think it will be good, but not enough to avoid disappointing most fans.
Pharaoh 117
Member
It's gonna be great. Believe.
It might score lower than FF13, but that's mostly due to 13 having still lot of FF-goodwill on its reviews, and the reviews being much harsher now. The quality of the game will be most likely better than 13 at any case (and I liked 13 for the most part).
My biggest fear is indoors-combat and the pacing of the story. Neither have me confident right now.
My biggest fear is indoors-combat and the pacing of the story. Neither have me confident right now.
I like everything about it: the world, the combat, the difficulty, the music (so good), the characters' dumb banter, the fact that you can drive around listening to the Red Wings theme. It'll be interesting to see how it holds up.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Literally saying the same things here. If people like it why can't it just be because it's good or even more simpler than that they just like it
There is a LOT wrong with Heavensward, an 86 is generous. We've discussed where the game went wrong and I distinctly remember you admitting bizarre and backward design choices from the developers.
Critics aren't harsh, they just have perspective - I also remember you saying this was your only MMO (or you haven't played WoW) so these critics do have perspective on the genre you may not have. FFXIV is still in its infancy.
As for FFXV I think it will disappoint a lot of people. So much of the narrative lies within media outside of the game, so non-fans are missing out by default.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I don't think that much of the narrative lies outside the game. It's just that we have only a small picture of the in-game narrative. When all is said and done, less than half a dozen short anime episodes and a 2-hour prequel cutscene will be far less than the 40-50 hours of main story.
But the Omen trailer was all just a CG production. It had no gameplay in it.
I hope so too.
No matter what, though, XV will be divisive among the fanbase due its development history and all.
rayman1900
Member
Yeah, for me it feels like the first 15 hours of the game is still a setup to the real story, and I'm guessing that the real story will be really starting after meeting with Luna at Altissia.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
It'll be an ambitious game with many promising elements but it will suffer from a lack of polish, jank, and half-cooked systems.
Overall it won't be a bad game but it won't be great either. It won't be good enough to stand up to the series best but people will praise it for being better than FFXIII.
Overall it won't be a bad game but it won't be great either. It won't be good enough to stand up to the series best but people will praise it for being better than FFXIII.
LordKasual
Banned
From what i've seen and heard constantly since people have been able to touch the game, it's going to be great.
Honestly, anytime a developer allows people so much time to play their game (AND post the footage online), they're confident enough that the game is going to be good. Especially for something like an RPG.
I'm hoping this is a big turning point for Square Enix.
Honestly, anytime a developer allows people so much time to play their game (AND post the footage online), they're confident enough that the game is going to be good. Especially for something like an RPG.
I'm hoping this is a big turning point for Square Enix.
brandonh83
Banned
It's my first MMO as well, but I don't think I need to have played WOW to consider it good. I'm enjoying it very much so far.
Also, I disagree with Kagari on critics being harsh on Heavensward-- an 86 is very very good. So yeah, critics do have perspective!
Ugh. I wish people would evaluate media on its own terms. How it was made shouldn't be relevant.
When you market a game for a decade before release, you set certain expectations. SE did it to themselves. If the game was only known about by consumers for the last year but went through the same development cycle, it'd be completely different.
YankeeDonB
Member
Sweet, this and J. Parish's take have made me more confident than anything else I've seen. You all have a similar perspective and history with the series to mine.
I realize things could still go off the rails in the back half, but a solid start is great news.
brandonh83
Banned
Also Final Fantasy has been decisive since 8. That's when the series really stopped playing it safe, for better or worse. Of course 15 isn't going to please everyone.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
I'm going to go against my instinct and wager that the game will turn out to not only be good, but great! I think the game had a rough development cycle, but maybe managed to overcome it in the final months leading up to release. I think a lot of people are judging it based on the demos Square Enix released earlier which is contributing to their negative impressions of the game. I am more than likely going to be wrong, but I am going to go out on a limb and give this game the benefit of the doubt.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
It's going to review well with the outlets I think. But it's going to be interesting if people will backpedal on it like with 13 or if reviewers were unable to understand the game well enough like with D3.
manzoman96
Member
Yeah that's the one thing to be concerned about. I'd really like for the story to be amazing. Hopefully on par with some of the great FF stories.
I'm really hoping this isn't a MGSV scenario were the game is fun but story is trash. That was a big disappointment.
My guess, based on what I've played and seen:
It will be better than the FF13 series but won't come close to the top of the series.
It will be a bloated Frankenstein of a game filled with half-baked ideas, a million verticle slices of sequences stitched together. A big, empty open-ish world with repetitive monster battles. It will have a bunch of ideas and themes it never fully explores. The characters will be cliche as hell, with atrocious english voice acting. The plot will be contrived and over-wrought, like the game itself.
It will have a massive hype launch before the inevitable backlash. The honey-moon period will wane and people will be faced with the game's numerous flaws. The die-hard fans, many of which decided it was the greatest game ever before it even released, will continue to sing its praises and argue loudly on the internet, taking any criticism way too personally.
It will be forgotten after Persona 5 releases but SE will continue to force the FF15 brand down our throats through-out the remainder of the gen, regardless of reception.
It will be better than the FF13 series but won't come close to the top of the series.
It will be a bloated Frankenstein of a game filled with half-baked ideas, a million verticle slices of sequences stitched together. A big, empty open-ish world with repetitive monster battles. It will have a bunch of ideas and themes it never fully explores. The characters will be cliche as hell, with atrocious english voice acting. The plot will be contrived and over-wrought, like the game itself.
It will have a massive hype launch before the inevitable backlash. The honey-moon period will wane and people will be faced with the game's numerous flaws. The die-hard fans, many of which decided it was the greatest game ever before it even released, will continue to sing its praises and argue loudly on the internet, taking any criticism way too personally.
It will be forgotten after Persona 5 releases but SE will continue to force the FF15 brand down our throats through-out the remainder of the gen, regardless of reception.
Haha nice, can't wait to experience it for myself.
Same. Tabata has shown a concerning lack of foresight in how he's split up the events, and i'm not just saying that either.
In general i hate game story and lore that heavily depends on outside material to make sense of the world. Halo and Gears have both started doing it to the detriment of the campaigns, and now FF15 dived head first into having entire major catastophes only mentioned in newspapers, where you have to watch entire prequel movies and anime specials to even have context for a lot of things.
