He has probably already reported it. The japanese branch just wont listen.
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Atelier Sophie and Nights of Azure coming to Steam
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Snakethesniper
Member
It seems to be 100% in the map and in the house/city, during combat or exploration nope
cleveridea
Member
Atelier let's you select resolutions up to 4k from the launcher.
Nights of Azure only shows resolutions up to 1080p in the launcher, but you can choose whatever resolution you want by changing a registry entry (yes, it's incredibly stupid that it's not in the launcher, but at least it's possible and only takes like 10 seconds)
It's under HKEY_USERS -> SOFTWARE -> KoeiTecmo -> Nights of Azure -> Settings
Change the first 2 values in device to whatever resolution you want.
oh thats cool
I'll get it - thanks Ascheroth for GMG pretty good price with the 15% off
AndyMoogle
Member
Atelier let's you select resolutions up to 4k from the launcher.
Nights of Azure only shows resolutions up to 1080p in the launcher, but you can choose whatever resolution you want by changing a registry entry (yes, it's incredibly stupid that it's not in the launcher, but at least it's possible and only takes like 10 seconds)
It's under HKEY_USERS -> SOFTWARE -> KoeiTecmo -> Nights of Azure -> Settings
Change the first 2 values in device to whatever resolution you want.
Will it support other aspect ratios as well?
Battlechili
Banned
Could you elaborate? I don't entirely understand; is the CPU showing 90-100% false data? I noticed some people pointing that out have stuttering problems.
Dream_Journey
Member
Damn, Atelier looks so god in 4K and using very low GPU power but very big CPU power.
Snakethesniper
Member
Someone on steam posted a "fix" for the CPU problem, I don't know the technical details (that are explained) http://steamcommunity.com/app/527270/discussions/0/133256240744042389/
It's correct data in principle, it's just a matter of people not being good at interpreting it.
What's happening is that the game apparently uses OpenMP for some parallelization, which by default spawns as many threads as there are CPU cores (or rather hardware threads on a hyperthreading system) and most of the threads spawned by it wind up busy waiting. This means they are using CPU but not really doing anything.
The reason I say it's not a real issue is that they are waiting because there is nothing for them to do. So that CPU utilization only comes into play when there is nothing to do for them, which means that it doesn't really affect performance. I guess it's not a complete non-issue since it will affect energy consumption.
Dream_Journey
Member
Thanks for details. So is this easy to fix or need lot of work?
Edit for below: Thanks again!
It should be easy to fix. You just need to sleep instead of busy waiting.
But as I said, unless you are doing something else which is CPU-intensive at the same time as the game or running on a battery it shouldn't really affect you even in its current state.
Durante, in case you missed my post in the Steam thread - is there anything special needed for the SGSSAA in Atelier? Compatibily bits?
Could you post screenshot of your NVIDIA Inspector profile? Just want to make sure I set up mine correctly.
Lunarwhale
Member
Blah, going to guess this isn't easily fixable?
I've only played some of Atelier Ayesha, which I really enjoyed as a chill-out game on my Vita (despite the Vita version's performance being miserable). Thinking of picking up Sophie, but I've heard mixed things about it and the 2D assets on the PC version being inferior is pretty disappointing.
Nights of Azure is tempting as well - I was interested pre-release, but then the impressions were all fairly negative.
That's neat. I guess I should grab it.
Elaugaufein
Member
The problem seems to be that people don't necessarily have perfectly clean fans, or really good heat dispersal setups or are overclocking without appropriate additional cooling so the high consumption from busy waiting is causing the CPU to overheat (which will cause throttling or shutdown to avoid damage).
I'm using the "1 core" dll from that fix, seems to work perfectly - CPU usage is at 5-7%, no stuttering, constant 60fps. I guess this will do until the official fix arrives (if it ever arrives
).GoldenDarkness
Banned
Just got both of these tonight, Atelier runs amazingly but even at just 1080 Azure is having tons of fps problems and the controls on the 360 controller seem really messed up
You need to reassign all the buttons in the launcher once. They're completely broken by default. You can just press the buttons one after the other and the launcher will detect it.
It run fine for me at 1440p.
KainXVIII
Member
It can be (if devs bother)
You can still get it at a discount at Retroism for $48
http://retroism.com/gust-bundle-atelier-sophie-nights-azure/
BONKERS
Member
Man, how is it tk cannot get this shit right after years and like a dozen releases of practice? I don't know how anyone can justify downsizing and applying even more compression to the UI assets. And how is it they support arbitrary resolutions in game for one but not the other?I just cannot wrap my head around this.
CertifiedFP
Member
???
He's talking about the time limit in the Atelier games.
The deal on Nights and Atelier bundled is permanent.
Probably an alloted ramshackle and disordered development environment for their (small) crew that makes the PC versions.
Pejo
Gold Member
Whoah whoah whoah. Atelier doesn't have time limits anymore? Since when?
Might actually buy now.
Basileus777
Member
Since Shallie, though really Ayesha was the last Atelier game where time was a real limiting factor.
YOOOOSHI
:3
BONKERS
Member
You'd think someone would have the balls to stand up for a change. Oh wait, these are Japanese corporate structure we are talking about. Fall in line and do what you are told.
Probably not far from the truth.
Someone needs to give them a wake up call.
Elaugaufein
Member
Yeah, put me down as missing the time limits while also being glad they're gone.
I wish they'd kept a time limit on the main plot but let you screw around in a timeless post game kinda thing to work out recipes/locations and perfect equipment, think that would have been the best of both worlds.
I wish they'd kept a time limit on the main plot but let you screw around in a timeless post game kinda thing to work out recipes/locations and perfect equipment, think that would have been the best of both worlds.
TheSpoiler
Member
Fuck how does anyone have time for AS? This game seems like it has so much going on.
KojiKnight
Member
Imagine if it still had a hard time limit... It's one of the things that paralyzed me in some of the older titles. I actually only played Ayesha in the Dusk trilogy after finishing part of the Arland trilogy because I kept getting so stressed -_-
Game bought, downloading now. I'm also going to test the game on my lower-mid tier laptop since we seem to not have many people trying the lower end for comparisons.
FWIW, it runs well enough (at 30 FPS) on my ultraportable with integrated graphics.
You make time for Atelier
I've only played Atelier Rorona Plus but the non-game over requirements are generally quite lenient and the rest is up to your sense of completion or what characters you like.
KojiKnight
Member
The stutter....
This laptop's i5-4210U (1.7-2.4ghz) and 840M is playing it at native resolution at 60fps with medium shadows... but the stutter is outright awful. I tried the 1-CPU fix listed above, but that didn't do much or anything. I'll play around some more if only cause I need my Atelier fix.
Try windowed mode.
KojiKnight
Member
It's worse.
It's very steady, looks to be once per second. Reminds me of Mario Kart 8, only instead of a single frame, it's probably closer to 5-10.
I tried forcing high priority as some have suggested on the steam forums and it's still the same.
(edit) sonnava.... -_- I plugged in my DS4 and the stutter is gone. The game is constantly polling for a controller and that was causing the stutter.
What's the best method to emulate a 360 pad with a DS4 since there is no custom configuration?
(edit 2) And figured it out. Game plays beautifully now. Still not the port I'd hope for, but it is probably the port I deserve.
Nachtfalke
Member
Still have the PS4 versions for both of them sealed here. Do they run on PS4 with 60fps awell? My Gaming PC is mediocre but would atleast run the games at 1080p60fps, but these ports do not look too hot. Should I stick with the PS4 versions?
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hikarutilmitt
Member
I'm a joker and still haven't played my copy of Sophie, but NOA runs 60 most of the time until things get chaotic. It never gets to unplayable status, though.
Kowashitai
Banned
Looks like KT is putting out a patch today about the CPU issue.
https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/830138690911432704
https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/830138690911432704
Oh my, what is this, Koei actually patching their games after release? :O
Could it be they're really actually trying to improve?
Hopefully the other issues will get fixed in time as well.
KoeiTecmoAmerica
Member
I put in out of office time to compile a report to make sure our team is aware of the pc issues.
Here's hoping for a brighter future.
Here's hoping for a brighter future.
Your efforts are much appreciated!
I did my part and bought the game on release
.GhostTrick
Banned
Could you tell them about Night of Azure launcher being locked to 1080p resolution while the game support arbitrary resolution ?
Also Atelier Sophie 2D arts being badly filtered/lower res than PS4 version ?