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UncleSporky · Mar 2, 2017

Brofield said:
What fresh bullshit am I waking up to this morning.

I swear, THIS is what would have caused me to cancel my preorder until it was fixed maybe a week ago.

Look, this kind of thing doesn't have to be defended or justified, but at the same time I think you vastly overestimate the struggle required here.

There's even a section for "received friend requests" so it might only be required one way. Just tell all your friends they have to add you, you're not going to type that garbage, and from your perspective there might as well not be any friend codes, if you can just hit "accept, accept."

Crackbone · Mar 2, 2017

ITSMILNER said:
This

If that's the way it works then I fail to see what the big problem is

The big problem is that it's needlessly over complex. Furthermore it just reinforces that this thing is coming in hot. I fail to see why Nintendo can not just get with the program when it comes to online. If the plan is to lock a friends by user name behind a paywall they can forget getting an additional dime from me.

It's their mindset that's particularly irritating.

Diddy Kong · Mar 2, 2017

Of course Nintendo waits until the last possible day to unveil the friendcode bullshit. Wow. What a disappointment.

Caelestis · Mar 2, 2017

Not too happy with this. No reason to go back to this when Wii U used normal names.

MadChapelier · Mar 2, 2017

Hoo-doo said:
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

nightside · Mar 2, 2017

Diddy Kong said:
Of course Nintendo waits until the last possible day to unveil the friendcode bullshit. Wow. What a disappointment.

To be honest, it was in the leaked developers document, but it was downplayed because "it would certainly mean the user id".

BGBW · Mar 2, 2017

JoeNut said:
can anyone explain what these codes are and why they are bad? i've never owned nintendo stuff till now

With the DS and Wii, every game had a unique code and friend list. It was a mess. It's the main reason they are so disliked.

3DS improved things by having one code for all games, but you both have to enter each others codes to add each other, so your had to agree before hand you were adding each other rather just sending a request and seeing if the other party accepts.

Wii U allowed adding by ID.

If the hand shake method of the old friend code system is gone and you can receive proper friend requests and just accept them rather than entering a code yourself then it'll go some ways to improving things. It's not a perfect system as codes are not as easy to whittle off as a name, but it's not the end of the world as some are making it out to be.

LordRaptor · Mar 2, 2017

Diddy Kong said:
Of course Nintendo waits until the last possible day to unveil the friendcode bullshit. Wow. What a disappointment.

I mean... online services aren't even working yet are they?

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they're still doing the back end stuff required so that your already existing Twitter and Facebook lists can be migrated, so by the time online gamings possible adding friends is as easy as giving your twitter handle out.

Griss · Mar 2, 2017

I see this title, and think "lol, come on, I know that's not the only way"...

Enter the thread, read, and realise I don't have a Facebook or Twitter and don't play mobile games, including Nintendo's games... Holy shit, it's friend codes again for me. In 2017.

A-fucking-mazing.

Mpl90 · Mar 2, 2017

The tour of the system post-update from Gamexplain shows something that I consider...strange?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxcHIhYnD4Y

At 1:49, among the Friend Setting, there's "Reissue Friend Code", with a warning "You won't be able to receive another code until 4/1/2017 4:29 am"

Does that mean you can actually change the friend code, after a non-specified period of time?

MHWilliams · Mar 2, 2017

K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

Serenitynow · Mar 2, 2017

That's funny, because I have a unique Nintendo Network ID, and as of last week a unique userID. Didn't understand the point of the last one, but grabbed one anyways.

Turns out I can use neither to add friends on Switch.

Brofield · Mar 2, 2017

UncleSporky said:
Look, this kind of thing doesn't have to be defended or justified, but at the same time I think you vastly overestimate the struggle required here.

There's even a section for "received friend requests" so it might only be required one way. Just tell all your friends they have to add you, you're not going to type that garbage, and from your perspective there might as well not be any friend codes, if you can just hit "accept, accept."

I'm the friend that will tolerate having others send requests. My friends are the types who have long since moved on to big boy consoles and will not stand for friend codes anymore. As far as they're concerned, that shit died with the Wii.

This is infuriating to see Nintendo shoot themselves in the foot, and I know now my friends will latch onto this reason alone to justify not buying a Switch.

bomblord1 · Mar 2, 2017

I don't get it whats the problem? It's just one of a dozen options

You can add via
Miitomo Friends
Super Mario Run Friends
Friend Codes
Recent Users you've played with online
Local Users
Facebook
Twitter
And it also gives friend suggestions

And even assuming you haven't connected with people in any of those ways are people really incapable of memorizing a 12 digit number?

Trago · Mar 2, 2017

Nintendo should have been crystal clear about this.

KainXVIII · Mar 2, 2017

After online matchmaking with phone (if you have it, of course) its not really surprising lol

Kthulhu · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

Well that somewhat better. But moving from a F- to an F+ is still failing.

Effect · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

We good then Thank you! It's a slight inconvenience I feel to use a number instead of a name but they function the same way.

SocksAndShoes · Mar 2, 2017

bomblord1 said:
I don't get it whats the problem? It's just one of a dozen options

You can add via
Miitomo Friends
Super Mario Run Friends
Friend Codes
Recent Users you've played with online
Local Users
And it also gives friend suggestions

And even then are people really incapable of memorizing a 12 digit number?

The problem is, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

Every other online service has this figured out. Nintendo has no excuses.

Sesuadra · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

That, at least, is good.

blu · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

Good.

EhrgeizVII · Mar 2, 2017

Oh my god, this better be temporary.

Maybe "Add Via Nintendo ID" will be behind paywall... Lol that'd be something.

TLZ · Mar 2, 2017

Lutherian said:
Are people blind ? The one who wrote the article is, obviously.

It's bullshit ! Look yourselves :

* Search for Local Users > add friend from local profiles.
* Search for Users YOuve Played With > exactly like on Wii U, PS34, Xbox1&3600
* Search with Friend Code (12 digit) > fuck no.
* Sent Friend Requests > SEND FRIEND REQUESTS, NOT FRIEND CODE. Like every system even the Wii U.

Dude you called us blind and you can't even read

JavyOO7 · Mar 2, 2017

Could have just added everyone through Nintendo Account or NNID... no clue why that is not there. I should rant with Nintendo over this on Twitter but they are the same as Niantic in that regard. I'll probably get an "r" in return.

Mysterious · Mar 2, 2017

It's even more pathetic that Nintendo themselves used actual usernames with their previous home console, the Wii U.

Dark Cloud · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

Good. Send a request and accept. No longer two Friend code verification.

jorgejjvr · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

This is good

But wii u was already did the exact same, but without friend codes, it did it with Nintendo network id = username

bomblord1 · Mar 2, 2017

SocksAndShoes said:
The problem is, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

Every other online service has this figured out. Nintendo has no excuses.

Figured out what exactly? A username instead of a user string?

Brofield · Mar 2, 2017

bomblord1 said:
I don't get it whats the problem? It's just one of a dozen options

You can add via
Miitomo Friends
Super Mario Run Friends
Friend Codes
Recent Users you've played with online
Local Users
Facebook
Twitter
And it also gives friend suggestions

And even then are people really incapable of memorizing a 12 digit number?

Most people can't remember a ten digit phone number. I only remember my parents and grandparents phone numbers because it was beaten into my head at a young age. Typing in someone's online handle like 'Brofield' or 'bomblord1' is infinitely easier than 6557-8352-1892, least of all easier to remember.

Kthulhu · Mar 2, 2017

bomblord1 said:
I don't get it whats the problem? It's just one of a dozen options

You can add via
Miitomo Friends
Super Mario Run Friends
Friend Codes
Recent Users you've played with online
Local Users
Facebook
Twitter
And it also gives friend suggestions

And even assuming you haven't connected with people in any of those ways are people really incapable of memorizing a 12 digit number?

I don't even have my Social Security number memorized. You think I'm gonna remember a 12 character code?

UncleSporky · Mar 2, 2017

Brofield said:
This is infuriating to see Nintendo shoot themselves in the foot, and I know now my friends will latch onto this reason alone to justify not buying a Switch.

See that's just crazy to me. Something that takes maybe 30 seconds extra per person. In the most extreme case, an hour if you're planning to add 100 friends from online. Then you're done and you never have to think about it again...allowing something like that to keep you from an entire console. I can't imagine.

ITSMILNER · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

Perfect, no biggie then, just have to put a number code rather than the name at first

Zombie James · Mar 2, 2017

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Gotdatmoney · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

Better than 3DS. Thank the lawd for that at least.

bomblord1 · Mar 2, 2017

Kthulhu said:
I don't even have my Social Security number memorized. You think I'm gonna remember a 12 character code?

Brofield said:
Most people can't remember a ten digit phone number. I only remember my parents and grandparents phone numbers because it was beaten into my head at a young age. Typing in someone's online handle like 'Brofield' or 'bomblord1' is infinitely easier than 6557-8352-1892

That's... Not something to be proud of.

Jumeira · Mar 2, 2017

RichiRamjag said:
Friend codes fucking suck man. Nintendo are some of the biggest most ass backward dolts in the industry at times.

So damn grateful that Nintendo are dead last as their services and practice outside of making games is not only awful, its wilfully regressive. They dont like progress.

Such an incompetent company in regards online.

Galang · Mar 2, 2017

Didn't Wii U allow you to add people by username?... What the shit Nintendo. Truly a backwards company :/

Conkerkid11 · Mar 2, 2017

What seems crazy to me, unless I've heard wrong, is that we now have a new list of friends to create for seemingly no reason. The competitors carry everything over between gens.

I have the same list of friends on PS3, PS4, and Vita. I have the same list of friends on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and that PC app.

Rixa · Mar 2, 2017

bomblord1 said:
And even assuming you haven't connected with people in any of those ways are people really incapable of memorizing a 12 digit number?

How easy for you it is always to remember you phone number that prolly has less numbers?

What if you have 2 phone numbers. Add some credit/debit card pin codes.
Then add 12 digit friend code. Then add your bank account number and so on.

Its not like friend code is only number serie you need to memorize. The less number series you need to remember the better.

Iam fairly certain that for me its way easier to remember my PSN that has some letters only than it would be to remember my 12 digit Switch code.

Baleoce · Mar 2, 2017

nightside said:
To be honest, it was in the leaked developers document, but it was downplayed because "it would certainly mean the user id".

This is why it does nobody any good to just blindly support companies and not be willing to call them out on stuff.

If I'd preordered I'd damn well want to hold them to task on things like this and not just be "oh well, xyz feature isn't here, but at least it'll have good games". Stand up for your expectations!

13ruce · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

That is not too bad imo. It was the 3ds system that was crap with both having to add.

VeryGooster · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

That's not too terrible. Lord having flashbacks adding so many people for Animal Crossing New Leaf.

jacobeid · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

Thanks for the report. Not to bad but it seems like something that Nintendo should fix.

SocksAndShoes · Mar 2, 2017

bomblord1 said:
Figured out what exactly? A username instead of a user string?

Yes?

FHIZ · Mar 2, 2017

Are you fucking kidding me?

Kthulhu · Mar 2, 2017

bomblord1 said:
That's... Not something to be proud of.

I'm not saying it is. Most people don't memorize this kind of shit.

Do you have every phone number on your contact list memorized? Every password? The address of every place you visit?

It's a waste of time, and I shouldn't need to deal with it.

NSESN · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

It's not ideal, but much better than the 3DS way.

Zombegoast · Mar 2, 2017

This is overblown

The Wii's was bad as there was only an address book to add people and was separate from a game's friend code.

What sucks is just I have to input random numbers and letters.

bomblord1 · Mar 2, 2017

Rixa said:
How easy for you it is always to remember you phone number that prolly has less numbers?

What if you have 2 phone numbers. Add some credit/debit card pin codes.
Then add 12 digit friend code...

Iam fairly certain that for me its way easier to remember my PSN that has some letters only than it would be to remember my 12 digit Switch code.

Yes, my phone number, my social security number, my credit card number, my student ID number, and my 16 digit library card number.

And I most certainly don't have an above average memory.

marc^o^ · Mar 2, 2017

MHWilliams said:
K.

So I gave someone else my Friend Code and had them send a request over. Once you receive the request, you get a notification with their Username and Icon. You then have the option to Become Friends, Decline Request, or Block. If you Become Friends, the connection is done. It doesn't look like you both have to trade codes.

So it's about typing numbers instead of letters? I thought I would lose 2 minutes, I don't know anymore.

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