So the fact that the Zelda attach rate is this crazy should tell us that the more Switch is being sold, the more BotW will be as well, right? Obviously it'll drop from 100% once other system sellers like Mario Kart, Splatoon and Odyssey release, but still it feels like this game is going to sell for a very long time.
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Nintendo Switch is Nintendo's fastest selling game system (US, 906K), Zelda over 100%
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I think it'll have good legs, especially if the DLC is well-done and advertised like at all. So many people haven't even gotten to play the game yet, and the word of mouth effect seems to be really strong for it.
Plus, good open world games tend to be pretty evergreen.
LegendofLex
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Probably never.
DecoReturns
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Mario 64 in Japan I believe.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Nintendo has definitely defined Switch as home console since it was unveiled
jts
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Ha, that's interesting because Mario 64 and Zelda BotW are the 2 games I owned briefly before their respective consoles.
And there are so many other similarities between them as well...
Concerning Zelda's sales it's important to note that this does not include digital sales which could make the attach rate even more rediculous. I imagine many more physical Zelda's were bought since most people picking up the system in stores also got Zelda at the same time.
frankie_baby
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the figure comes from Nintendo and does include digital
foxuzamaki
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This is a fantastic comment
I'd say that the 3DS sales of Smash Bros compared to Wii U is what really put the nail in the coffin.
Lil'DigiOp
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I think your right. Nintendo finally had a steady stream of games in its first year. Mario is gonna break down the rim. A smash E3 date of fall and the game is broken.
-hadouken
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I'm sorry, but overshipped is the very definition of not meeting expectations.
JonnyDBrit
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It certainly would have been the definitive argument in meetings. Almost every other game could see a dismissal that they just wouldn't know how well something would sell on a handheld instead of a home console, and vice versa. Smash on 3DS, IIRC, did something close to 2:1 in terms of sales vs the Wii U version, even though it had to be the less demanding system to develop for.
That's just not economically justifiable, particularly for a company that has to be successful with regards to its gaming output or it is actually screwed.
Me too . And a Wiiu version
Japanese, sure. Western, not likely. Most probably, they had nothing planned, they're firmly entrenched in Microsoft/Sony ecosystem, and Nintendo is late to being in the same ballpark for porting. If they get anything out, it'll probably be useless copies of 1-2 Switch or late ports at full price with no extras that won't sell, etc, etc. Indies, Nintendo, and Japanese third-parties. If you're happy with that, you've got good hopes going forward. If you're not, then you may be in for another disappointing gen riding a Nintendo system.
it's funny you mention this because Reggie was quoted saying this:
Reggie Fils-Aime said:
James Scott
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Yeah, Switch is Wii U done right.
Taking advantage of Wii U's low adoption rates with Wii U ports to Switch would be pretty smart
The Wii U did get a breakout hit. It is called Splatoon, a game that got Japanese into shooters.
So far, there has only been two games ported to the Switch, Zelda and Mario Kart. The Switch isn't a port machine for those who missed the Wii U.
And while Splatoon was a hit, it was ultimately held back by the Wii U. Super Mario Maker was also a hit, but again, the Wii U held it back (& if you ask me, Nintendo's YouTube policies also held SMM back from being even bigger).
Being held back doesn't matter since the argument was that Wii U had no break out hits like Nintendo's other consoles, which is factually untrue. And the Gamepad made a game like Mario Maker possible, so it took full advantage of the Wii U hardware. The same with Splatoon whose sequel got gimped because you don't have the map to always look at.
And you need some facts to prove that Nintendo's Youtube policy held back Mario Maker.
The YouTube policy thing is more of my opinion than anything else (hence the "if you ask me" part), especially with how YouTuber-friendly the concept of SMM is.
If you're going to say something hurt sells, something that can be physically seen, you need more than an opinion, which is my point. Especially since Youtube isn't the majority of anything.
To be fair, YouTube's pretty big in this day & age. Correct me if I'm wrong, but part of what helped Minecraft become as big as it is was YouTubers playing it on their channels.
ShockingAlberto
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White supremacists, apparently
OrbitalBeard
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Oh, but it's going to be. I have no doubt Switch will receive enhanced versions of Smash Bros. and Super Mario Maker (though the latter may have enough new content added to look more like a sequel), among other titles. Feel free to hang onto this post and make me look stupid in a year or so if I end up being wrong.
Version 3.0
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It's more of a minor surprise hit than a "breakout". It's sold, what, 1.5 million in Japan, 5 million worldwide. How many systems did it move?
You can't seriously tell me it's in any way comparable to the titles I named: Pokemon, which extended the Game Boy's life by years and sold, what, like 30 million copies in its first iteration? Or Minecraft, which has sold over 100 million copies across different platforms and is still going.
edit: "factually untrue", that's hilarious. And please, learn the word "sales". "Sells" is a verb.
I could see Nintendo opting for a Super Mario Maker sequel, but the likelihood of Smash 4 getting ported depends on if it's announced at E3.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Getting three Wii U games doesn't make it a "port machine".
Leona Lewis
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Splatoon would've been the highest selling new IP in Japan on the PS2. Given the state of the Wii U, and the market in Japan generally, it did insanely well.
Jaded Alyx
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No, it's from people buying more than one copy (special/master/regular editions) and buying the game without buying a Switch yet.
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Vilix
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Congrats, Ninty. Hope it makes it.
OrbitalBeard
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Ah, that makes sense. I hadn't considered that possibility.
Yes but didn't the current president come out lately with some vague comments about the 3DS' successor still being in an early R&D phase or just not being developed at all? Plus everyone who doesn't work for Nintendo is treating the Switch as though it were a handheld.
Nah. Smash will be a full new game (it'll also not be released as soon as people hope) and possibly Mario Maker too. Obviously that's juts my prediction. My thinking is that Nintendo will stick to one game per generation for the appropriate series, and given the success of the Switch it doesn't need to roll out Smash in any rush.I agree! Hence this:
I do however think we'll see ports of Bayonetta 1+2, XenobladeX, Mario3dworld, ZeldasHD. The singleplayer stuff.
I agree! Hence this:
What console doesn't have remasters/ports from its previous gen predessessor?
OrbitalBeard
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They all do. I'm not sure why you think I'm trying to paint this as a negative or exclusive to Nintendo.
It's a pity we don't get more European sales updates often.
If I combine the 3DS and WiiU's launch period sales together from previous information listed in here and in the Japanese Media Create threads, then compare it to the Switch's first month, it sorta looks like this...
Switch (March 2017)
Japan: 565,013 (First month)
US: 906,000 ( First month)
Total: 1,471,013
3DS (Feb/March 2011 to July 2011)
Japan: 1,306,156 (First 5 months)
US: 922,000 (First 5 months)
Total: 2,228,156
Wii U (Nov/Dec 2012 to May 2013)
Japan: 909,247 (First 5 months)
USL: 1,079,000 ( First 5 months)
Total: 1,988,247
Given the Switch stock issues faced in the US/Japan, plus all the news of the Switch selling great in Spain, France and so-so in other European countries (Correct me if I'm wrong here), I think it safe to say it's in a much better position than the previous two Nintendo devices.
Good for Nintendo!
If I combine the 3DS and WiiU's launch period sales together from previous information listed in here and in the Japanese Media Create threads, then compare it to the Switch's first month, it sorta looks like this...
Switch (March 2017)
Japan: 565,013 (First month)
US: 906,000 ( First month)
Total: 1,471,013
3DS (Feb/March 2011 to July 2011)
Japan: 1,306,156 (First 5 months)
US: 922,000 (First 5 months)
Total: 2,228,156
Wii U (Nov/Dec 2012 to May 2013)
Japan: 909,247 (First 5 months)
USL: 1,079,000 ( First 5 months)
Total: 1,988,247
Given the Switch stock issues faced in the US/Japan, plus all the news of the Switch selling great in Spain, France and so-so in other European countries (Correct me if I'm wrong here), I think it safe to say it's in a much better position than the previous two Nintendo devices.
Good for Nintendo!
First, until HZD passes Splatoon which will happen in the next month if it hasn't already Splatoon remains the biggest exclusive new IP on any system.
When talking about the Japanese console market - Splatoon is huge. It is 1.5 million physical and over 1.7 million with digital being included. This is after a full year of Nintendo not shipping too many Wii U consoles. Basically most Wii U's sold in the last two years in Japan can be attributed to Splatoon and Minecraft. Compare Splatoon's sales to FFXV and it's pretty clear how big it was.
Splatoon 2 coming to a portable device could definitely be a top 10 game in terms of sales in Japan. I think it will easily pass 5 million in Japan in it's first year on the market. Basically in Japan July/August summer holidays aligning with the Splatoon 2 launch might lead to more sales than the launch of the Switch itself.
Just in case you think I'm not being realistic SMM for 3DS sold what the Wii U version did over the course of the year in barely a few months. The majority of SMM sales on the Wii U were due to a bundle which people needed to buy in order to get Splatoon. Once SMM stopped being bundled it stopped charting on mediacreate, but still there was enough audience on the 3DS that ended up buying the port.
Splatoon 2 is a sequel coming to a portable device to the biggest new IP since the Wii days, the biggest console game of this generation in Japan, the sequel has generated 17,300 related videos on youtube in Japan for the last month alone, the amiibos are likely to be the top selling merchandise for the year and only DQ11 could possibly sell more than Splatoon 2 by the end of 2017 and that game is releasing on three different systems.
mavericktopgun
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Bought a Limited Edition and downloaded from the eshop.
JonnyDBrit
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Well, to borrow a graph from the Media Create Sales thread, with regards to the Japanese sales:
Even the Wii U was well ahead of PS4 for quite a while in Japan, when aligned. It's a matter of how well the legs hold.
Even the Wii U was well ahead of PS4 for quite a while in Japan, when aligned. It's a matter of how well the legs hold.
Wii U dropped dramatically after week 5 in Japan, i think sales dropped in to the teens and then sub 10k. Let' see how long Switch takes in the race to the bottom!
Principate
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That's because they both they both sold like shit but the Wii u has decent Christmas sales which kept it ahead for a bit.Well, to borrow a graph from the Media Create Sales thread, with regards to the Japanese sales:
Even the Wii U was well ahead of PS4 for quite a while in Japan, when aligned. It's a matter of how well the legs hold.
The switch is in no way the Wii u you should be comparing it to the 3DS.
Well, to borrow a graph from the Media Create Sales thread, with regards to the Japanese sales:
Even the Wii U was well ahead of PS4 for quite a while in Japan, when aligned. It's a matter of how well the legs hold.
I agree. Thou I think the reason why the Switch is behind the Wii U in Japan at the moment, is because Nintendo focused moving more switches for the US launch.
There's around 110,000 difference between the Wii U and Switch after 6-week bracket in Japan. The Switch, having massive stock issues, is still selling a consistent 40,000 units per week. I wouldn't be surprised if the Switch took the lead in six weeks times (maybe even quicker if there's stock when Mario Kart arrives).
Well, to borrow a graph from the Media Create Sales thread, with regards to the Japanese sales:
Even the Wii U was well ahead of PS4 for quite a while in Japan, when aligned. It's a matter of how well the legs hold.
We'll see what it does when Splatoon 2 hits.
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