Conciliator
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nuance is lame bro
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I'm largely clueless about "antifa"
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Golden_Pigeon
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Antifa movement is tied to anti capitalist ideology. They understand fascism as a defense mechanism for capitalism to preserve social order.
So it's only logical that they don't limit themselves to fighting the far-right. Don't forget where the whole term "anti-fascist" came from. Fascism is a reaction to marxism.
RedSparrows
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This post is just bizarre. Antifa is at least half composed of anarchists, who are by definotion not fascist. And fascism is not a form of socialism, despite the name the Nazis picked for themselves.
And authoritarian has a specific meaning, which is not simply "willing to be violent".
Jacksinthe
Banned
"Store windows"? Here's some free education for you:
https://youtu.be/z4ftMf35LTw
There's a reason why people with an IQ over 2 think these cunts are terrorists aside from them adopting uniforms, masks and throwing explosives into crowds to push their political ideals and subjugate.
Nobody with a single rational thought sympathizes with them and for good reason.
Not ALL socialists are authoritarian, there's a Lot of democratic socialists, and not all ANTIFA are socialists the majority are anarchists or Anarcho communists.
And authoritarian is not the same thing to fascism, its a characterist of fascism, that you can find on
Monarchy,republic and socialism.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Man the so called "centrists" have done an amazing job to muddy the water about anti fascists.
airmangataosenai
Member
I wasnt aware Nazis were marching through Berkeley, that is shocking. So much so I would appreciate seeing some evidence of it.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
Are you talking about the police ?
On a more serious note, i spent many years seeing antifa groups in action, never saw nobody "throwing explosives into crowds". So don't make gross generalizations.. The only time i saw masked people attacking civilians, those were police officers, often dressing as "black block". This is well documented and a classic way to disrupt social movements.
Edit: Wow that a very cool channel you're following here.
Muffin1611
Banned
In a country where protestors lose limbs because of police violence, I can't really blame them.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I like antifas when they punch nazis. When they use threats, harassment and intimidation to cancel heavy metal concerts, though, they can fuck off.
Vicetrailia
Member
Imo antifa comes in when:
"Defyin' it, envious because I will rebel against, any oppressor, and this is known as self defense.
I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic, But when the shit gets thick, I'm the one you go and get." ~ 2pac
The far right gets stronger when moderates go hands off like they are now, and not necessarily when antifa escalates protests. That will rile Nazi's up irregardless. Also I'm tired of going into bathroom stalls at businesses and seeing people writing "fuck blm". I scratch it out but it's everywhere down here.
"Defyin' it, envious because I will rebel against, any oppressor, and this is known as self defense.
I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic, But when the shit gets thick, I'm the one you go and get." ~ 2pac
The far right gets stronger when moderates go hands off like they are now, and not necessarily when antifa escalates protests. That will rile Nazi's up irregardless. Also I'm tired of going into bathroom stalls at businesses and seeing people writing "fuck blm". I scratch it out but it's everywhere down here.
reggieandTFE
Member
This sentence makes absolutely no sense. Perhaps someone with an IQ over 2 could rewrite it.
CannonFodder52
Member
Spuck-uk
Banned
You seem a real charmer.
Jacksinthe
Banned
I'm not making generalizations when there is plenty of video to go around.
Tim is also probably the most benign journalist in the biz. He's left but he makes his videos mostly calling out the far left. Oh noes!
That still doesn't change the fact that Antifa throws explosives into crowds.
But I suppose the religion of politics can easily blind you based on who is reporting what, eh?
So you are justifying hurting and attempting to murder innocent civilians for what the police do?
The fuck am I reading?
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
Try to get a political education outside of Youtube.
Also, try to get a political education to begin with, since he is clearly not left. All his videos is trying to validate the alt.right narrative on about everything.
Edit: Quick tip, when your "similar channels" look like that:
You're not from the left.
Antifa isn't strictly violent.
We've got a antifa chapter where I live and they're organising demonstrations and political discussions, film showings, punk rock concerts and other cultural stuff.
They also provide safe spaces for refugees, LGBTs and other minorities, they collect donations etc.
Of course, there are certainly violent chapters who are anarchistic and go on rampages at demos. But there are really two sides to that.
We've got a antifa chapter where I live and they're organising demonstrations and political discussions, film showings, punk rock concerts and other cultural stuff.
They also provide safe spaces for refugees, LGBTs and other minorities, they collect donations etc.
Of course, there are certainly violent chapters who are anarchistic and go on rampages at demos. But there are really two sides to that.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Over here antifas waste their time harassing promoters and venues and even fans to cancel concerts (not even of political bands or anything). It's infuriating bullshit. I wish our antifas were more like yours... where do you live if you don't mind me asking?
G20 is going to see heavy left extremist presence, even past the usual G-anything resistance because they picked a venue bordering a district that's considered a haven for left extremism.
CannonFodder52
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The level of irony in that statement is unreal.
Dude Abides
Banned
Lol Tim Pool. The poor man's James O'Keefe.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Try to get a political education outside of Youtube.
Also, try to get a political education to begin with, since he is clearly not left. All his videos is trying to validate the alt.right narrative on about everything.
Edit: Quick tip, when your "similar channels" look like that:
You're not from the left.
The guy interviews people on both sides. Just because he's not part of the far-left echo chamber doesn't mean he's alt-right or trying to validate any of their concerns. He's spoken on that subject before of interviewing both sides - so he gets labeled as alt-right. How DARE he interview more than just one ideology! That's not jarnulizm!
If you'd watch his videos you'd know that because he's talked about that more than once and has been interviewed about that plenty of times. I'm not lost on what he does. Quite laughable you folks bring shit up that's already been aired publicly about his beliefs. How about you guys catch up? I've seen videos of Crowder next to TYT so yeah. YouTube gonna YouTube on suggestions.
Same shit here on GAF, if you disagree with the bubble, you are clearly to the right, right? There's no criticizing of the left allowed FROM the left?
How hypocritical and shameful, smh. I was correct before the election and I'm correct now. Y'all need to step outside of that echo chamber of yours. Stop seeking media that only validates you and start seeking shit that plays both sides to view the inside BS as an outsider. The company-line ideology didn't win us the election because we ignored everyone who was in the middle of the fight. If we want to win elections we will need to take a step back and view what our side is doing from a different perspective unless you think cult of personality YASSS QUEEEN will win us more elections then so be it - we are doomed to repeat history.
The left is laughable right now and getting more extreme. Doing the same shit tenfold that lost us the election won't help.
But, hey. Y'all didn't listen to me before Trump won so why would you listen now? Just double down! That'll work... ... THIS time! Mmmmhmmmm.
We stay losing, then. Thanks.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
Having right-wing views is not a "criticism from the left, of the left".
You're totally deluded by alt.right discourses.
Tim Pool is not alt.right because he is interviewing alt.right prominent speakers, but because of what he says in his opinions videos himself.
If the left have to adopt right-wing policy/ideas to win against Trump, so it's better to lose. The french left have tried that for decades and it just made the far-right growing. I mean, why goes with the ersatz when you can have the real thing ?
You're totally deluded by alt.right discourses.
Tim Pool is not alt.right because he is interviewing alt.right prominent speakers, but because of what he says in his opinions videos himself.
If the left have to adopt right-wing policy/ideas to win against Trump, so it's better to lose. The french left have tried that for decades and it just made the far-right growing. I mean, why goes with the ersatz when you can have the real thing ?
jackissocool
Member
Antifa is great
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
This strategy was also done by the far right in France, here trying to capitalize on historical leftist french figures:
Confusion is a characteristic of fascism.
Confusion is a characteristic of fascism.
CannonFodder52
Member
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
Interviews are between two people, and Tim Pool is from the Left.
So his channel is actually balanced.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
Try to get a political education outside of Youtube.
Also, try to get a political education to begin with, since he is clearly not left. All his videos is trying to validate the alt.right narrative on about everything.
Edit: Quick tip, when your "similar channels" look like that:
You're not from the left.
Yeah Paul Watson? Fuck outta here. Left my ass.
theCalamity
Member
Does Tim Pool have interviews with leftists? I'm not finding any that I know of, but I don't know too many leftists.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
People sure love to claim they are left wing because it sounds cool and "conservative" is for old people, but they almost always end up being conservative assholes.
Dude Abides
Banned
Tim Pool lied about scary mooslems in Sweden. Maybe your YouTube research isn't as comprehensive as you think it is.
Nobody cares about your 2016 election hot takes.
Crossing Eden
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Lmfao that someone thinks Tim Pool is from the left. Genuinely holy shit. While also going with the "both sides" rhetoric. I needed that laugh today Jack. Everyone from the "sketptical/rational" youtube circle is a fucking idiot who shouldn't be listened to by anyone with an actual modicum of rationality and self awareness.
theCalamity
Member
Just looking at some of the videos he has done, I'm not going to think he's from the left.
Muffin1611
Banned
I was referring to destruction of property which most criticize them for when protests escalate, since everybody who can rub two brain cells together should realize that attacking random civilians isn't something the vast majority of them do and isn't encouraged by Antifa either.
Also lol at summing up throwing riot grenades at people so they have to amputate their limbs or plain shooting people because they're brown as "what the police do".
I used to think he was liberal, hell he even proclaims that he is liberal in a lot of his videos. But he bends over backwards to defend the actions of people on the right constantly, particularly since the 2016 election. All he wants to talk about is antifa, antifa, antifa. He continually ignores the scandals on the other side of the isle. He's transparent as fuck.
Oh good lord. The vast majority of the off-topic arguments are criticisms of the left from the left. Pick any random thread.
Crossing Eden
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A lot of people who're lowkey racist shitlords also say that they're left and/or they try to get "both sides."
IrishNinja
Member
this thread getting bumped was worth it to see jackinthe dragged
also wanted to co-sign these fine posts
theCalamity
Member
"Centrism" at its worst. I took a quick look at his videos, but does he have anything on right wing extremism because that is a major problem that hardly anyone is covering.
I get the feeling that it's a no
CannonFodder52
Member
Most of the Youtube political personalities:
I'm on the left
Wait, why do you have staunchly conservative political opinions?
Uh, that's because the regressive left is moving further away
I'm on the left
Wait, why do you have staunchly conservative political opinions?
Uh, that's because the regressive left is moving further away
Psychoward
Banned
Goddamn jacksinthe tried peddling his bs peddler Tim pool in here too huh, had to bail out of the other thread when people pointed out his lies and project Veritas stanning so he thought he'd try a new thread eh
Will someone post the NJ homeland of security entry on them too, that isn't even country wide but lists no murders from them and the most heinous crimes they've had is beating up white supremacists?
Lol
Will someone post the NJ homeland of security entry on them too, that isn't even country wide but lists no murders from them and the most heinous crimes they've had is beating up white supremacists?
Lol
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