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Dragon Age 2 Goes Gold, Live Developer Gameplay/Q&A [Update 2: Recorded Version Up]
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Krauser Kat
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cant wait to play this a month or so after it release walking around all naked and sexy looking.
Not really. The ammo sucked, the endgame sucked, having fewer skills sucked, the dlc pricing sucked, the collectors sucked, the disjointed nature of the story sucked, the romances sucked, Shepard's "death" sucked, and working for a billionaire sucked. I don't see any across-the-board improvements except for the sidequests, which were a very easy improvement to make.JWong said:
This argument would only work if ME1 and 2 were fundamentally different in the first place, and they aren't.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Now that I think about it, I'm actually kind of bummed that demo will have normal difficulty as I'm planning to play on Hard. But I guess that just means there's more to look forward to in three weeks.
JumpJeff84
Member
Really haven't been following Dragon Age 2 much. Played the first on PC, liked it quite a bit.
So, what's the deal with part 2? Is the PC version still dramatically different from the console version like I heard it was supposed to be?
So, what's the deal with part 2? Is the PC version still dramatically different from the console version like I heard it was supposed to be?
Reluctant-Hero
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Check put the recorded live stream link in the OP. It's PC footage.Whoompthereitis said:
Lostconfused
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This pretty much seals it for me. I am just going to rent the 360 version the day it comes out. Play it for a week straight and then be done with it until the ultimate/goty edition goes on sale during Christmas.subversus said:
Lostconfused said:
hm, I don't see a point in that self-torture. I might wait for sales but I got to admit that the game could look decent with DX11 features (judging from latest PC shots). So it depends on what games are out in march.
Speculator
BioWare Austin
Blog up about the tech (w/ screens)
http://blog.bioware.com/2011/02/16/the-technology-of-dragon-age-ii-–-part-1/
DX9 version. DX11 version will eventually be covered.
http://blog.bioware.com/2011/02/16/the-technology-of-dragon-age-ii-–-part-1/
DX9 version. DX11 version will eventually be covered.
Reluctant-Hero
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Already posted on the previous page. I made the same mistake.Speculator said:
whatevermort
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I think this looks really good. It looks like a progression from DA:O, and the graphics are very pretty. I am also a fan of the structure, which sounds fascinating. I welcome this game, and hope that the demo is good.
I AM A VOICE OF REASON.
I AM A VOICE OF REASON.
Lostconfused
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The voice of reason does not speak in capital letters, you must have it confused with some one else.whatevermort said:
Speculator
BioWare Austin
Reluctant-Hero said:
Ah, i'll leave em up for those won't bother to click the links.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
im going to be totally honest here, i think the graphics look fine. The only reason i ever harped on them to begin with was that developer comment from way back when about DA2 being "visually super hot." Does the game look ultra-cutting edge? No. Does it look good? Yes. Is it laughably bad, no.
The graphics do look less appaling in those most recent screenshots. However, they're certainly not a radical improvement as suggested by Bioware, and from what we've seen so far I would claim that they aren't an improvement on the PC version of the first game at all. I doubt the DX11 features are going to change that, they don't magically increase texture resolution.
The lack of an isometric camera is certainly not doing the graphics any favours. DAO looked its best by far when zoomed out a bit (and also played best, but I digress).
Here's a small reminder of what the first game looked like:
The lack of an isometric camera is certainly not doing the graphics any favours. DAO looked its best by far when zoomed out a bit (and also played best, but I digress).
Here's a small reminder of what the first game looked like:
Confidence Man
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Those skeletons :/
In what universe is that better looking than Origins?
In what universe is that better looking than Origins?
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
You know what? You are right about those bones :lol i didnt even notice them until you pointed them out.Dance In My Blood said:
SUPER HOT!
Lostconfused
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Might as well turn this into a screenshot page.
Everything that was mentioned about visuals and isometric view is obviously PR for the console version of the game. They made it sound like you were going to stare at the sky the whole time when you play DA2.
Edit: Also honestly I don't get the new UI either. I guess when they said they wanted a unique art style they were referring to 2D art.
Everything that was mentioned about visuals and isometric view is obviously PR for the console version of the game. They made it sound like you were going to stare at the sky the whole time when you play DA2.
Edit: Also honestly I don't get the new UI either. I guess when they said they wanted a unique art style they were referring to 2D art.
Reluctant-Hero
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Damn, Durante's shot is awesome. I'm so used to playing DAO on 360, I forgethow stunning the game is on PC.
But still, I have faith the DA2 will look great for you PC gamers with top notch, DX11, PCs. I'm satisfied with 360's visual upgrade in DA2.
Hmm, maybe I should start the DA2 defense force on GAF...
But still, I have faith the DA2 will look great for you PC gamers with top notch, DX11, PCs. I'm satisfied with 360's visual upgrade in DA2.
Hmm, maybe I should start the DA2 defense force on GAF...
Felix Lighter
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The removal of the isometric camera angle is the biggest disappointment, for me, by far. Graphically, I can deal with what has been shown recently.
Stallion Free
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*sigh*Lostconfused said:
Lostconfused
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Stallion Free said:
lastplayed
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I'm just not seeing how DA2 looks better at all. Maybe DX11? But DA:O didn't need that to look good.
IoCaster
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Felix Lighter said:
Pretty much the deal breaker for me. I also really dislike the "rebooted art style". The changes to elves and dwarves aren't all that pleasing, but I could eventually get used to them. The changes to the darkspawn and ogres are a bit too much for me though. The spiky armor and weird fusion of gothic-eastern aesthetic is total shit.
I don't mind the lack of origins or playing as a human, but "Hawke" is such an uninspired choice. Everything about the game just seems so lackluster, dumbed down and rushed. As a PC gamer the whole console focused development they've taken with this game just about killed any interest I ever had in the franchise. Oh well, I'm sure they'll get a fresh crop of console players to buy in and I've got plenty of other games to play anyway. *shrug*
Seems mid/high-range, trying to emulate the console version. EA is handling their PC series going console-centric by hiding the good looking PC shots/videos before release. I don't know why, but Crysis 2 is in a similar place.Salaadin said:
Even the AF being upped would greatly benefit those screenshots, but expect the final game to look better. The question that remains is how much better it will look.
DodgyGeezerFella
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Im wondering if those DA2 PC shots shown are the game "at its best" or just random shots the guy took, because DA1 certainly looked freaking terrible in a fair few places, while other areas looked superb (like the shots above).
JWong said:
ME2 was simply more polished and much more streamlined. Some things were improved, some were unnecessarily cut off, some were turned into worse. Just because the game received much more awards doesn't mean it did everything better. You can't seriously tell me for example that the overall story was better in ME2 than it was in ME1.
And about those DA2 shots - jeez, what happened there? It should be an improvement, but as proved with the PC DA:O screens, it looks like a massive downgrade to the Origins' graphics. Not to mention that there are other cRPG (Two Worlds 2, Arcania) that have a much (much!) better looking outdoor scenes. Those PS2-level skeletons and empty cities (with NPC going mindlessly in rounds) are just laughable :/
Fimbulvetr
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water_wendi said:
Initially people were more mad about poop mountain and Dirtwall Lowtown. Which is more of an art issue than a graphics issue.
There is a kind of sterility to those new screens though.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I don't know. You know I hate almost everything we know about DA2. My vitriol toward it could fill several kegs, should a process be perfected to liquefy such emotives. That said, I don't mind the new screen shots as much. A little sterile, sure, but not the early ones that showcased Mt. Crapmore.
Now, let's see if the demo can make me eat my words regarding the rest.
Now, let's see if the demo can make me eat my words regarding the rest.
cartman414
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kitzkozan said:It's happening with fighting games,especially Marvel vs Capcom 3 or Street fighter IV which are streamlined compared to their last offering.Sure it suck,but the compromise is well worth it imo as the scene is bigger than it's ever been since SFII.EVO2K11 will easily be the biggest and the major reason why is these new mainstream FG (along with the first proper Mortal kombat since 3?).On average,I think rpgs are selling better nowadays since Bethesda is selling as much or even more than SE (I'm sure Fallout 3/Oblivion sold better than FF XIII).Of course,the biggest drawback is that jrpgs are almost on the verge of extinction on HD consoles since they can't compete money wise (but most of them were always super niche).
Despite the dumbing down of the genre,you will always have an Arcana heart or Virtual fighter that's a more hardcore experience.The same is true of the rpg genre :Bioware and Bethesda are now mainstream along with Lionhead studio/Square-Enix,but you still have the Demon's/dark souls+The Witcher.
But the dumbing down of the genre means less top-tier games, especially considering that these guys were once at the top of the genre. It's a depressing case of what could have been.
water_wendi said:
To be honest I'm not too concerned about the graphics. Yes, it's sort of a shame that Bioware isn't really pushing for cutting edge quality on... any front really as far as I can see. I guess it's a phenomenon we should be used to at this point. Bioware's the big name RPG developer now and they can play it safe with streamlined products in their recognizable IP series and no longer need to distinguish themselves unlike the smaller European companies for example. I'm just glad that at least some fixes have been made on the graphics here and there. At least the female body models are unique this time around as opposed to the "truncated male bodies with breasts" in Origins.
Edit: As depressing as it is though, I guess the upside is that there are still underdog companies out there working hard at making a name for themselves by doing what Bioware won't. From the looks of things The Witcher 2 might be able to scratch my RPG itch in ways that Dragon Age 2 won't. Of course, if that becomes a big hit then eventually CD Projekt will be another Bioware and the cycle starts again.
lastplayed
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Micius said:
Don't forget Bethesda!
bluedeviltron
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This thread is hilarious. The game looks great, as did Origins.
Are people who think this just not familiar with other PC RPGs?bluedeviltron said:
It's 2011. Even if this game looks as good as Origins (which was very rough visually as an overall product, and pretty much required high-res texture patches), it won't hold a candle to other games being released this year. I mean the Witcher 2 comes out in May and takes a mountainous visual dump on DA2.
For comparison, here is what games with actual effort look like:
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/art...er-2-assassins-of-kings-20100615075650237.jpg