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Sony PSN Hacked [Major Update In OP, Stolen Info Detailed, Partly Up Within A Week]
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Shin Dynamo X
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If anything you would think that hackers would hack companies like Capcom, Activision, or other devs for locking DLC on discs we already paid for. Those are the real crooks.
Giriath_89
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H_Prestige said:
I took your post as a statement of your belief that dumb kids are responsible for bringing down the PSN. I think that is unlikely, so how am I agreeing with you?
Do you no longer believe dumb kids are responsible? Then please say that instead of responding "Oh really, then who are?" when I say I think it's unlikely dumb kids are responsible.
Or if you wrote "dumb kids" just to degrade those responsible, please say that instead of responding "Oh really, then who are" when I say I think it's unlikely dumb kids are responsible.
To summarize, you're not making much sense.
https://twitter.com/#!/Digital_Foundry/statuses/61813387423789056 said:
This is certainly moronic if that's the reason to cut off psn globally.
The content download servers are up (or so I'm lead to believe),
it's quite clear that it's more serious than that rumour or they designed their architecture with their feet while high.
I can't actually believe that something only affecting the shop part of the service would bring down everything from multi player to even connections to other players....
all that and somehow ps3 all over the world can access data servers for patch purposes?
Sounds highly inefficient to not just cut the content from psn and investigate.
Pureauthor
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kamorra said:
Defending on your definition of 'kid', a bunch of 'dumb kids' also managed to completely crack PS3 security not very long ago, remember?
pharmboy044
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This is pretty insane. If this is true, I wonder how much money has Sony lost because of some douchebags getting on the Dev Network.miladesn said:
TheMissingLink
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Man. Poor timing with Portal 2/SOCOM. Really horrendous timing.
As I recall, they way Sony's devnet worked is you just hit a button to give yourself fake money in order to buy games, instead off just having them free (for reporters and other devs). Apparently, this is the horrific kludge it sounds like and the fake money might have been compatible with retail servers. Looks like they tried to take things one step further and hand out the fake money to everyone on psn.Atruvius said:
Shin Dynamo X
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To quote another poster...
I hope this down time gives gamers a chance to see how those of us who enjoy the single player experience have been getting shafted the last couple years. Online is fun but it shouldn't replace the core game. Consider yourselves humbled developers.
I hope this down time gives gamers a chance to see how those of us who enjoy the single player experience have been getting shafted the last couple years. Online is fun but it shouldn't replace the core game. Consider yourselves humbled developers.
This doesn't just hurt online gaming, it stops some single player gaming, it stops Portal 2 owners linking to Steam to get the PC/Mac version, it stops us all communicating with our friends list, it stops us buying new single player content that is only on the store, it stops us trying demos, etc. It's bullshit, and "just play the single player" is not an acceptable retort.Shin Dynamo X said:
H_Prestige
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Giriath_89 said:
Dumb kids are responsible for this mess. Yes, I am degrading them. I don't care about their hacker skills or whatever.
Pureauthor
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kamorra said:
*shrug* I've no reason to believe that the actual competent hackers on 4chan differ substantially in terms of demographic from those guys in failoverflow. They're the ones who do any sort of work more damaging than DDoS nonsense.
Cat in the Hat
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Shills will defend anything Sony does blindly.
arnoldocastillo2003
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Mael said:
Its all part of the architecture of the PSN, you cannot close the dev network and leave the multiplayer online ON, you cannot do that, and if it is true you all have to blame the hackers who develop the CFW because it seems that someone found a security hole where you can download paid content FREE from the PSN, and that is a good reason to shut down the PSN network because this affect Consumers and Developers at equal.
And that just part of the problem, it seems that the same people who found the security breach to download paid content Free have found personal data of users from the PSN and began retrieving it, don´t know if the personal data includes CC numbers or not, but SONY took down the PSN just in case.
TheExecutive said:
Getting 'past all the security' isn't so simple, if the network is properly set up. The security doesn't end once you're inside one of their servers, you have to continue finding vulnerabilities that are hopefully running completely different sets of software.
Now, with the way Sony botched the RNG on the PS3 I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the network isn't in fact properly set up.
androvsky said:
....waht?who would design something like that?
That it even exists in this form after the initial dev is..........stupid beyond belief.
People should get fired for this kind of sloppy job, I know I would fire people for that.
Haunted said:
Hey look some sense in this thread!
Pureauthor said:
You know what? It's just semantics. I just thought that implying that it only takes some dumb kids to bring the whole PSN down doesn't look good for Sony
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GarthVaderUK
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arnoldocastillo2003 said:
Where did you hear this?
Revolutionary
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Isn't it obvious why Anon is denying it this time around? First time they did it in geohot's name. They can't do that this time due to the settlement - it just may violate the terms of the settlement or perhaps even incriminate him.
arnoldocastillo2003
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Game Analyst said:
I have a contact with SONY who is trying to keep me updated, but he is not part of the PSN, he works for the administrative section for SCEA, he only tells me what he has been told through Memos and reports, and doesn´t tell me much only a little bit.
arnoldocastillo2003 said:
From a conceptual level, it's certainly possible. Now maybe they didn't do it in a way that would allow it.
Even then though if the problem was only getting free content from the shop, they can disable the shop and leave the rest open somehow.
That is actually way more serious, I'm not sure psn keep the CC data or not but I'm pretty sure mails and other info put into psn are kept there.arnoldocastillo2003 said:
That's reason enough to remove the system from the network.
Lovegooder
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V_Arnold said:
Speaking for myself, MLB.TV on the PS3 is tied into PSN. If I can't access PSN I can't access MLB.TV. Netflix does not have this problem. My preference is watching baseball on my 37" HDTV, not within a small pop-up window in a web browser on my laptop. I paid $119 so I could enjoy the former, but as long as PSN is down I can't.
reggieandTFE
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My buddy has had a PS3 for 6 months after being an Xbox-only gamer. This is the 1st game (Portal 2)I wanted to play online with him and PSN goes down.
At the same time I'm cool with some punk kids fucking with a giant, multi-national company. Corporations need to be taken down a peg.
At the same time I'm cool with some punk kids fucking with a giant, multi-national company. Corporations need to be taken down a peg.
TouchMyBox
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Shin Dynamo X said:
If people are stupid enough to throw money down the drain, then more power to those companies to please shareholders.
lowrider007
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Negator said:
I'm actually starting to worry about my account/profile now, can you imagine if everyone had to sign up for PSN again, I know I know, extreme scenario but still, for PSN to be down this long things must be pretty bad, I kinda feel sorry for Sony tbh, they just can't seem to catch a break this gen.
NegativeZero
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I know Anonymous has denied responsibility, but still, I bet Sony is REALLY regretting going after Geohotz right now...
I don't doubt the split screen is awesome, I can't wait to dig into the co-op myself (not playing split screen myself), but online gaming is the last thing I use PSN for, and it's those other functions that right now I'm missing. If I had PSN now I wouldn't be online gaming.Game Analyst said:
I think the frustration for me is the vagueness of the updates. If Sony said "yep, some cunt broke in the place and fucked it up, we're fixing the issue, hunting him down and putting it back up, it will take four days exactly" I'd be perfectly happy, but if someone says "a day or two" they have no idea how long it's going to take. You either know what the issue is and the man hours it takes to fix it, or you don't.
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