JoshuaJSlone
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Heh. Well, looks like iPhone has both a 0.3 MP front-facing and 5 MP rear-facing, so somewhere in that range?antonz said:
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Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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Thats the hard thing I dont see Nintendo going 5MP and I dont see them jumping providers for another .3MP when they have a sweetheart deal for 10s of millions of those already.JoshuaJSlone said:Heh. Well, looks like iPhone has both a 0.3 MP front-facing and 5 MP rear-facing, so somewhere in that range?
I could see something like a 3MP that was in the Iphone 3GS.
Teardown reveals its like 9.75 cents for the 5MP sensor. Nintendo is paying like 1.56 for each .3 in the 3DS. Since it is only one Camera I see them going a decent resolution but not sure if they would go for the 5MP
bgassassin
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I knew there was a point that I wasn't remembering about that article and that was Apple, and after searching the company that I forgot was Omnivision. I can see it being one of their 5MP versions. Looks like their first version was first talked about for Apple back in 2009.
And right before I post this antonz doesn't see it as a possibility.
And right before I post this antonz doesn't see it as a possibility.
MDX said:
For the first time ever, I'm actually impressed by that video.
It's always struck me as an extreme gimmick and the ultimate "all flash and no substance" bit of that video. It was stupid. OOh, you can throw your tablet on the ground and see a virtual ball. Worthless. But that's actually a great point. The ball is centered right by that "sensor bar." I would suspect you could greatly enhance the reliability of the reading if you wanted to make the golf swing hardcore.
bgassassin
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I agree. Once I took the time to read a little more about the patent, I realized I was underselling the benefits in the other thread.
boyshine
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The IR-lights are much closer together, so you can play Wii pointer games having the controller screen right in front of you. It's probably not even using the sensor in the golf demo. It's just a second screen - but that screen will really help in messing with your brain, making you think that there is an invisible game enviroment surrounding you, only visible through the TV and wherever you place/aim the Wii U controller. The "window" gameplay is seriously the thing that has me most excited for gameplay possibilities on Wii U. I hope developers take advantage of the feature and doesn't just use it as a menu/HUD screen.AzaK said:
herzogzwei1989
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MDX said:
This is what I was thinking of.
herzogzwei1989
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Good reprenstation in the patents of the real thing showed off at E3.
herzogzwei1989
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Somnia said:
Haven't looked. So unless the E3 hardware is changed, I guess not
A thought about the camera: The demos and mockups show people using the tablet as a window into the game.
But for that to work, the machine must know both the position of the TV (given by the sensor bar), the position of the controller (given by the gyros and magnetomajiggy and so on) and the position of the player, which might be provided by face recognition from the controller camera.
Heck, they know the camera will be at most arms length away from your face - maybe even eye tracking? That'd make up for losing the IR pointer...
But for that to work, the machine must know both the position of the TV (given by the sensor bar), the position of the controller (given by the gyros and magnetomajiggy and so on) and the position of the player, which might be provided by face recognition from the controller camera.
Heck, they know the camera will be at most arms length away from your face - maybe even eye tracking? That'd make up for losing the IR pointer...
You know, I really wonder how Nintendo is going to make a difference with Wii U. Sure, it has a touchscreen-controller, but other than that...what? Third-parties won´t make any exclusive Wii U-games, so only Nintendo *could* create big, epic games that make use of the raised power and its features. Dunno, so far Wii U feels so ... boring.
Dreamwriter
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Wait, where did you find pictures of the back of the console? Nintendo has barely released pictures of the console at all.Somnia said:
As for digital optical, maybe Nintendo decided that the Wii-U doesn't need it, since the system has HDMI which is better than digital optical.
AceBandage
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You guys also have to remember that these are E3 models and that the system is still close to a year out.
Thunder Monkey
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Yeah, what it do?
Dreamwriter
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Joke?AniHawk said:
Thunder Monkey
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How often does Ani joke around?Dreamwriter said:
Ask yourself that.
bgassassin
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Battlefield 3 developer not yet interested in Wii U
http://wiiudaily.com/2011/08/battlefield-3-developer-not-yet-interested-in-wii-u/
Considering the release date, I'm not really surprised they wouldn't be thinking about the Wii U version. However I think the time frame is kind of out there. The engine and assets will already be in place so about the only thing I can see being done in that area is optimization for the hardware. After that it would just be planning and implementing how they want to utilize the controller. If it takes till 2013 for it to release then IMO there has to be another reason (or reasons) they're not letting on about.
http://wiiudaily.com/2011/08/battlefield-3-developer-not-yet-interested-in-wii-u/
Considering the release date, I'm not really surprised they wouldn't be thinking about the Wii U version. However I think the time frame is kind of out there. The engine and assets will already be in place so about the only thing I can see being done in that area is optimization for the hardware. After that it would just be planning and implementing how they want to utilize the controller. If it takes till 2013 for it to release then IMO there has to be another reason (or reasons) they're not letting on about.
Gamer @ Heart
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Has there been even a peep from travellers tale? I figure that since Nintendo took the time to mention their exclusive lego world game, they must have had dev kits pretty early.
I think it's too early for them (Dice) to start focusing on the Wii U and glad that they're choosing on working on the game they're supposed to have out in a few months; rather than be thinking on a possible release for a game a year from now.
And if EA is really that desperate on having it at launch next year, they'll probably get a smaller team to port it, just like the disaster that was Need for Speed for the Wii las year; though at least the Wii U port should be closer to the 360 version this time....I hope..
And come on, people not getting Anihawk's post.
And if EA is really that desperate on having it at launch next year, they'll probably get a smaller team to port it, just like the disaster that was Need for Speed for the Wii las year; though at least the Wii U port should be closer to the 360 version this time....I hope..
And come on, people not getting Anihawk's post.
Traveler's Tales you mean?Gamer @ Heart said:
Gamer @ Heart
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fernoca said:I think it's too early for them to start focusing on the Wii U and glad that they're choosing on working on the game they're supposed to have out in a few months; rather than be thinking on a possible release for a game a year from now.
And if EA is really that desperate on having it at launch next year, they'll probably get a smaller team to port it, just like the disaster that was Need for Speed for the Wii las year; though at least the Wii U port should be closer to the 360 version this time....I hope..
And come on, people not getting Anihawk's post.
Traveler's Tales you mean?
Oops. Indeed.
TTG is busy on 67 other franchises.
Thunder Monkey
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Full body vitality sensor methinks.batbeg said:
walking fiend
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cause it is bullshit obviously, they will start working on the next one for all the consoles simultaneously. And EA won't care if Dice is interested or not, Activision is already almost fully supporting Wii with CoD using one of their best developers, among most their important other franchises, let alone Wii U.Mr_Brit said:
Yeah the sites trolling for hits.walking fiend said:
Dice isnt working on the Wii U software fully right now because they want to make sure the ones coming out in 2 months are ready. After that they arent gonna have 250 people working on patches etc as the site claims.
Bulk of the team will likely move onto BF4 and a small group set to work on Wii U and a small group on content patches for BF3
Always-honest
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It's always nice if a device has a seperate digital out. Lots of people have a receiver.Dreamwriter said:
And what exactly is inferiour about an optical out for sound?
Freezie KO
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Unless Battlefield 3 has pointer controls like CoD, EA can keep the game off the console for all I care.
walking fiend
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let's hope we don't go back to stone age of analog based fps games.StevieP said:
walking fiend said:
Agreed, it would definitely be a step backwards. Hopefully, given that nintendo seems to still be considering the Wii Remote almost a first class citizen on Wii U that devs will support that option too. However that will make using the screen feature a little less wieldly.
Pancakes R Us
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I really hope EA doesn't waste its (or another developer's) time to get Battlefield 3 ready for Wii launch. Release something different instead, something that won't be a year old and have already been played by the majority of people that want the game.fernoca said:I think it's too early for them (Dice) to start focusing on the Wii U and glad that they're choosing on working on the game they're supposed to have out in a few months; rather than be thinking on a possible release for a game a year from now.
And if EA is really that desperate on having it at launch next year, they'll probably get a smaller team to port it, just like the disaster that was Need for Speed for the Wii las year; though at least the Wii U port should be closer to the 360 version this time....I hope..
bgassassin
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doomed1 said:
My guess is they'll use software for that.
Hero of Legend
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I finally found the HQ video of the Tekken interview, it's still at Nintendo's JP E3 site:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2011/02/index.html
Here's the url to download it.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2011/02/movFiles/interview01.f4v
I'm currently trying to upload a 1080p upscaled version to YouTube, but YT's giving me a headache. :/
I made screencaps for your viewing pleasure of the native vid:
https://picasaweb.google.com/GoldMetalSonic/TekkenWiiSuccessor
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2011/02/index.html
Here's the url to download it.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2011/02/movFiles/interview01.f4v
I'm currently trying to upload a 1080p upscaled version to YouTube, but YT's giving me a headache. :/
I made screencaps for your viewing pleasure of the native vid:
https://picasaweb.google.com/GoldMetalSonic/TekkenWiiSuccessor
bgassassin
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doomed1 said:
There was a different type of software that seemed to make that not necessary, but that's irrelevant since looking back on the controller patent it has separate memory to handle that.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Could also open up interesting two player gameplay where one player with a wiimote shoots at the tablet the second player is holding up. Think William Tell.1-D_FTW said:
Orrr.....
A funky version of Trauma Center where the patient lays on the ground with the tablet on his or her chest and the surgeon player operates using both wiimote and touchscreen.
blu
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A framebuffer (or anything with a similar use case) is the last thing you'd make out of flash memory.doomed1 said:
Flash memory might take zero power to preserve its state (i.e. it's non-volatile) but its state-changing power is far above what any sort of dram would require. And framebuffers change. A lot. While nobody cares about their content 5 frames ago. And this is before we even touch on the subject of write-cycles wear-and-tear of flash.
As I said: zero sense.
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