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ULTROS! · Oct 12, 2011

Videos:

The ones at the bottom like the reflection demo and the cloth physics are the most interesting.

miladesn said:
famitsu report has video clips from engine
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201110/11051673.html

(They're in a video player here)^

Direct Links:

http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_render.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_demo_pik.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_demo_hpik.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_swing_retarget.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_swing_original.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_sa2011.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_undulating_terrain.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_using_contact_sphere.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_cloth_robe_backed.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_clothsim2.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_particles.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_reflection.flv

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20111012_483045.html

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20111012_483046.html

More pics courtesy of AndriaSang:

Kenka · Oct 12, 2011

Why having chosen interiors at this resolution with few light sources and poor colors ? Well, it doesn't look bad for what it is though.

Nirolak · Oct 12, 2011

There are two really lengthy articles about the engine that will probably get a new thread when duckroll gets back.

Unfortunately AndriaSang didn't translate anything, so we only have these pictures, some other tech demo pictures, and a ton of PowerPoint slides (written in Japanese).

Kenka said:
Why having chosen interiors at this resolution with few light sources and poor colors ? Well, it doesn't look bad for what it is though.

The resolution at Watch Impress is vastly higher.

Feep · Oct 12, 2011

The aliasing kills it on that last one. You couldn't even be troubled to doctor your photos, SE?

Nirolak · Oct 12, 2011

I like their bold new character designs. >_>

In reality it seems they're switching to spline based animation.

Auto_aim1 · Oct 12, 2011

Feep said:
The aliasing kills it on that last one. You couldn't even be troubled to doctor your photos, SE?

At least, they're being honest about it.

Callibretto · Oct 12, 2011

vectorman?

Nirolak · Oct 12, 2011

Hmm, some of these are in English.

StoppedInTracks · Oct 12, 2011

Looks more like Deus Ex than Final Fantasy to me.

I should be doing hw · Oct 12, 2011

entrydenied said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cuXgRVMvZ0&feature=player_embedded

How many decades until PC's will be doing this in realtime? I'm sick waiting...
SE better just quit now, doing towns in that level of detail would probably be impossible for them.

And most likely anyone else that

Rising_Hei · Oct 12, 2011

Crunched said:
The DX11 component is mighty interesting to me, because it signals the fact to me that Square will be focusing more on PC in the future. If that means more jRPGs on PC, this is excellent news.

It could just mean that nextgen will have the DX11 support, i don't see an offline FF coming to PC ever again, honestly.

Durante · Oct 12, 2011

Rising_Hei said:
It could just mean that nextgen will have the DX11 support, i don't see an offline FF coming to PC ever again, honestly.

I'm not so sure, for TLR they made a very competent PC version. And it's their only game where they had the opportunity to do so easily in terms of engine.

Kagari · Oct 12, 2011

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/square-enix-shows-photo-realistic-next-generation-engine

At a press conference in Japan last weekend, Square Enix showed off tech demos of its next-generation Luminous Engine, which it first announced in August, and announced features of its Luminous Studio development framework.

Designed with native DirectX 11 support, the engine includes cloth and fluid simulation, realtime reflections and highly efficient tessellation techniques that lower the level of detail of 3D models with minimal memory usage cost.

Jonnyram · Oct 12, 2011

It seems good at rendering car parks.

Sn4ke_911 · Oct 12, 2011

I think there was already a thread about this.

Edit: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442458

Shtof · Oct 12, 2011

Bring on the next generation!

markot · Oct 12, 2011

Wow, what a great set of pics to show off an engine. Im just waiting for them to make a teapot!

Sho_Nuff82 · Oct 12, 2011

Sn4ke_911 said:
I think there was already a thread about this.

Edit: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442458

New threads for new news.

Kagari · Oct 12, 2011

Sn4ke_911 said:
I think there was already a thread about this.

Edit: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442458

Split off the new stuff from the old tread then.

Ploid 3.0 · Oct 12, 2011

ULTROS! said:
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/26/luminous_studio_detailed/

Real (top) vs. Luminous Engine (bottom)

Shadow780 said:
I'm not sure the best example they wanted to show is another corridor.

Holy .. daaang hahahaha

I'm getting broken images when I go to that site in this op. Are they different from the corridor?

Looking at it again, I reminds me of Half Life 2, or Source engine.

ULTROS! · Oct 12, 2011

Jonnyram said:
It seems good at rendering car parks.

Final Fantasy XVI to take place mostly in car park-like places.

DaBuddaDa · Oct 12, 2011

Simple lighting, flat, industrial texture, very simple, mostly square geometry. Honestly these shots are not very impressive at all to me. It's relatively easy to give the impression of photo-realism in environments like these. I'll be more interested to see what a cityscape or a jungle or a person looks like rendered in this engine.

Ploid 3.0 · Oct 12, 2011

DaBuddaDa said:
Simple lighting, flat, industrial texture, very simple, mostly square geometry. Honestly these shots are not very impressive at all to me. It's relatively easy to give the impression of photo-realism in environments like these. I'll be more interested to see what a cityscape or a jungle or a person looks like rendered in this engine.

Is it bad form to poke fun at the idea of a city in this new Square engine? I really hope they go back to complex cities during downtime. Something to explore and chill out in. Play dice or hope the characters are old enough to drink at the bar type stuff.

DaBuddaDa · Oct 12, 2011

Ploid 3.0 said:
Is it bad form to poke fun at the idea of a city in this new Square engine? I really hope they go back to complex cities during downtime. Something to explore and chill out in. Play dice or hope the characters are old enough to drink at the bar type stuff.

A cityscape along the lines of what's been shown in Versus XIII, or Mirror's Edge, or Palumpolum, or something like that.

Dead Prince · Oct 12, 2011

Is this the Corridor Engine?

RedSwirl · Oct 12, 2011

So basically this is going to be their PS4 engine.

BlazingDarkness · Oct 12, 2011

Hopefully the creation of this engine isn't going to be yet another money and timesink that the Crystal Tools proved to be
Stop making new engines! Just make good games pls

sixteen-bit · Oct 12, 2011

DMPrince said:
Is this the Corridor Engine?

wouldn't that be White Engine?

Gravijah · Oct 12, 2011

damn this shit is hella tight

LiK · Oct 12, 2011

I don't see Sora in those shots.

Fersis · Oct 12, 2011

So their R&D leads are western? Thats quite the change for any Japanese studio.

Nemo · Oct 12, 2011

Fersis said:
So their R&D leads are western? Thats quite the change for any Japanese studio.

Gotta get the engine done in time this time

MikeE21286 · Oct 12, 2011

That's pretty impressive IMO.

Fersis · Oct 12, 2011

Teetris said:
Gotta get the engine done in time this time

I think that Kojima Productions also hired western devs.
Game Dev has changed ...

Pooya · Oct 13, 2011

B_Rik_Schitthaus · Oct 13, 2011

ULTROS! said:

I guess video games need traffic cones.

-Winnie- · Oct 13, 2011

miladesn said:
famitsu report has video clips from engine
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201110/11051673.html

http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_render.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_demo_pik.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_demo_hpik.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_swing_retarget.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_swing_original.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_sa2011.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_undulating_terrain.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_using_contact_sphere.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_cloth_robe_backed.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_clothsim2.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_particles.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_reflection.flv

Hoooly fuck, okay, in motion that's pretty mindblowing. The real test will be to see what this looks and performs with more complex environments.

Feep · Oct 13, 2011

miladesn said:
famitsu report has video clips from engine
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201110/11051673.html

http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_render.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_demo_pik.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_demo_hpik.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_swing_retarget.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_swing_original.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_sa2011.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_undulating_terrain.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_using_contact_sphere.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_cloth_robe_backed.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_clothsim2.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_particles.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_reflection.flv

Some of those are reeaaaallllll nice, but I laughed at the Fraps watermark.

Lyriell · Oct 13, 2011

My SNES could do 256 colours at once.

Apparently next gen is 12 shades of grey... yellow and red.

subversus · Oct 13, 2011

Lyriell said:
My SNES could do 256 colours at once.

Apparently next gen is 12 shades of grey... yellow and red.

your snes wasn't able to do colourgrading, that's why you were assaulted with 256 colours at once.

chri5t · Oct 13, 2011

http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_clothsim2.flv
http://eb-dl.pod.tv/flv/pv/111011_new_reflection.flv

I said wow.

sajj316 · Oct 13, 2011

B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
I guess video games need traffic cones.

Cones in place of rendered garbage on the right. I need my next gen engine to properly render a mountain of dynamically generated garbage and a glass of Mountain Dew. Water is too easy. Give me carbonated sugar!

The real-time screens are nice though.

Sleep Arrest · Oct 13, 2011

Looks good, and is very interesting for the overall progress of the industry...

Ellis Kim · Oct 13, 2011

That's some really impressive stuff.

ii Stryker · Oct 13, 2011

Show me better character and facial animations and better AI. If this engine can eliminate the uncanny valley, then I'll be impressed.

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