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Ossu! Tatakae! Ouendan! is the best game for the Nintendo DS
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..pakbeka..
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goddamn it the levels after over the distance are impossible.....
meltpotato
Member
Shiggy said:So which songs do you expect in the localized version at E3? Let's hope they are good, because it's the second best music game which will be shown there
i expect absolute crap.
Wait, this is happening? If true, awesome. I'll be looking forward to this! You better not be messing around Shiggy.Shiggy said:So which songs do you expect in the localized version at E3? Let's hope they are good, because it's the second best music game which will be shown there
Chris Remo
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Does anyone have a source indicating it'll actually be at the show?
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Deleted member 1235
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man drinky crow sucks.
Shikamaru Ninja
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There is no way Nintendo would bring Quendan over Band Bros. to the USA.
Shikamaru Ninja said:
Well, we know that Cheer Squad (or whatever it will be called) will be released this year in Europe/NA thanks to the Colonel. There was no mention of Jam with the Band, which I still prefer over Cheer Squad, but it was shown last year at the G|C in Germany.
Will we see it over here? I hope so.
Otherwise...there's still the GBA, the bit Generations/Digiluxe Series, Mother, FF and other great games are still coming.
Kobun Heat
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Shiggy said:
Craig looks like he's going out of his tree.
I just popped this game back in my DS and played for a bit.
How the hell are they localizing this!? First of all, male cheerleaders. No one will get that concept. Secondly, the comic portions. The events play out from right to left, and they really can't just mirror the image like some graphc novel translations do. Also, a lot of the text bubbles are vertical, and it will be hard to squeeze English in them. Thirdly, the music. They'll have to time the events much differently and totally redo the patterns if they go for new music. Lastly, some of the scenarios are just too weird. The entire festival level. The violinist level (buff guys wearing only speedos and capes).
How are they doing this!?!
How the hell are they localizing this!? First of all, male cheerleaders. No one will get that concept. Secondly, the comic portions. The events play out from right to left, and they really can't just mirror the image like some graphc novel translations do. Also, a lot of the text bubbles are vertical, and it will be hard to squeeze English in them. Thirdly, the music. They'll have to time the events much differently and totally redo the patterns if they go for new music. Lastly, some of the scenarios are just too weird. The entire festival level. The violinist level (buff guys wearing only speedos and capes).
How are they doing this!?!
SpoonyBard
Banned
Taichu said:
The only thing I can see working is totally new music, patterns and cutscenes. Which is fine by me, I can buy the game again then.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I guess it would be most similar to movies that get remade for another market within a few years.
TheGreatDave
Banned
I hope they just make it as western as possible. Put Fall Out Boy on there for all I care, have it sell millions!
Vyse The Legend
Member
Taichu said:
The US and EU version will have completely different songs (and because of that, I assume new patterns).
meltpotato
Member
Taichu said:
they arent being called cheerleaders.
Tornado Condor
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i hope the new Ouendan will have a new HARDER difficulty.
will be worth the challenge
will be worth the challenge
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
I'm replaying Ouendan now (still the best game on the DS - it's just too awesome), but i've also been thinking of how they could do this.
but perhaps the solution is to make it rock-a-bill .... THE FONZ style! That gets through the male cheerleaders - everyone will get a leathered up FONZ dancing to help people, it's what the FONZ does. Hell, even have a shark jumping level.
Comic portions - unless INIS were stupid, they will have built a game editiing engine that will simply allow them to drop in new art slides and patterns - i don't see this being an issue.
Music - this is the tricky part - the timing and stuff? That's not an issue i don't think - as long as they wrote good editing software (which i'd guess they did) then it should be fairly easy to do. It's the choice of music that i'm worried about - i think they need to get this right.
Stories - they don't have to keep the same stories - but most of them could still work.
I await PUSH! FIGHT! THE FONZ! with eagerness!
Naaa - it's not that bad once you get used to it , and once you do the challenge starts to slip.
Cheerleader speed but with random placing of hit points would be interesting so the game becomes even more reaction based and challenging would be awesome.
marvelharvey
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salva said:
When Cheergirl mode just isn't enough?
Anyway, Ouendan has been out how long now? 9 months? I can't believe how much damn play time I've squeezed out of this game during the time I've had it (since day 2). However, ever since I bought this I've been trying to convince a few music-game friends back in England to buy this. Until recently, my efforts have failed but after directing them to this topic at GAF, it's enlightened their interest and all 4 of them want the game. Problem is, I've been to every game shop near me and even some far away... sold out everywhere I've visited (which makes me happy). But it does mean that my friends will have to purchase from eBay and maybe pay a little over the odds... that'll teach them for being so closed minded!
DCharlie said:
Yep, I get where you're coming from -- as I progressed through the game, I always thought: "there's no way I can beat this stage!"".... and yet, I finished it on the Cheerleader level.
Random hit points, now that's something that could've been done!
Tornado Condor
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Jiguryo said:
i found the cheerleader mode hard at first but now it's easy. i got S rank on 10 levels on cheerleader mode already
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
i have a weird problem with the game that i discovered playing two player mode...
i can't do the slow levels ! I'm still running on "Cheerleader reactions" so when i see the circles slowly falling on to the hit points my brain just freaks and i get the timing all wrong...
seriously, took me an age to readjust to the easy levels. It's very odd.
Tornado Condor
Member
DCharlie said:
same happens to me. I can't go back to the easier difficulties because i can't get the timing right.
Tornado Condor
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Jiguryo said:
yup
A Link to the Past
Banned
I have no idea why people are so insistant that it WILL have new songs. It won't be THAT easy to remake it like that, and Ouendan isn't the kind of game that can be remade and still work (you'd have to change the music, the button placements and the levels' plots).
Vyse The Legend
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A Link to the Past said:
The Colonel said it would.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
to reiterate - as long as Inis created good tools in order to make each level , which i'd expect them to have done, this really isn't that big of an issue. Also bear in mind that by the time this game sees the light of day, it's likely to have been over a year since the JPN launch.
Surely if we were getting a straight dump of the JPN version, then we'd have seen it some time ago? (at least, i'm hoping for a significantly different version!
)Also note that all the songs have lyrics - Japanese lyrics. Not sure that US gamers would buy into that.
A Link to the Past said:
Not really. Apart from the hit point placements, fitting new songs to the existing storylines wouldn't be that hard. Keep the theme of each story -- say, a romantic song for the Ghost Love Story stage -- and so on. For example, I would KILL for R.E.M.'s "It's the End of the World As We Know It" for the last stage.
A Link to the Past
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DCharlie said:to reiterate - as long as Inis created good tools in order to make each level , which i'd expect them to have done, this really isn't that big of an issue. Also bear in mind that by the time this game sees the light of day, it's likely to have been over a year since the JPN launch.
Surely if we were getting a straight dump of the JPN version, then we'd have seen it some time ago? (at least, i'm hoping for a significantly different version!
Also note that all the songs have lyrics - Japanese lyrics. Not sure that US gamers would buy into that.
One, Egg Monster Hero is a launch game, IIRC, and Nintendo has plans to make sure as many games get released in the US as possible.
Two, stop assuming that there'd be so much backlash towards Japanese lyrics. The fact of the matter is that DDR and Donkey Konga are tons different - DDR has no real theme, and Donkey Konga just has Donkey Kong, both of which can work with any music. However, Ouendan has a very Japanese theme, so English + Japanese just wouldn't work, and I wouldn't purchase it - not only because I'm not interested in rebuying it, but it just wouldn't work.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
i don't see what that has to do with anything!
... hence, change it so it does? I'm confused what you are getting at? If the system is well written, you could swap out art assets and music and make the game the same, but with a different theme.
I'm confused - the game won't work because english and Japanese won't work because it has a Japanese theme, but i should stop assuming that there would be a backlash to Japanese lyrics? :} Anyways, simply change the game. Cheerleaders are in there - ones that americans recognise - then simply draw in several new cheer leaders, and alter the overwhealmingly japanese levels (change the restaurant to be a burger bar, alter the Matsui level)
Again, i don't think there is _that_ much work to be done to make this US friendly.
Kobun Heat
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Have I mentioned yet how awesome this game is on the Lite? The stylus is perfect and the screen is so fantastic that when you're dragging the world map around, it looks as if you are just sliding a piece of colored plastic under the DS. It's brilliant.
HANARETE MO KONO MUNE NI ITSUDEMO TODOITERU
Vyse The Legend
Member
Just ordered this. I, too, shall soon be singing the praises of Ouendan!
JoshuaJSlone
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So I bought this game through our own Buy/Sell/Trade thread. Very cool, though I'm not too far in. Currently working on the "pottery" and "track" levels on normal difficulty.
Such a great example of rhythm gaming on DS done right. Don't just try to replicate the existing weird rhtyhm controllers with the DS screen, but do something more suited to DS's abilities. You might have to tap anywhere, or roll along a line, or spin something around.
As a man whose knowledge of Japanese doesn't go much farther than the words Seiken and Densetsu, this game is so easy to get into. A few simple guesses on the menus, like "Pick the option with one silhouette for one player?" and I'm in. How you're supposed to play is very quickly obvious, and with the drawings you don't need to know that text to understand the gist of the story.
From my brief playing I got the impression that it would best be done either lightly localized (translate the text, keep the songs and settings) to appeal to the wacky jappy fans without a lot of work, or replace most everything but the play system to give it a broader western appeal. Since it seems it's already been mentioned the songs are being changed, I guess it's closer to the latter.
Such a great example of rhythm gaming on DS done right. Don't just try to replicate the existing weird rhtyhm controllers with the DS screen, but do something more suited to DS's abilities. You might have to tap anywhere, or roll along a line, or spin something around.
As a man whose knowledge of Japanese doesn't go much farther than the words Seiken and Densetsu, this game is so easy to get into. A few simple guesses on the menus, like "Pick the option with one silhouette for one player?" and I'm in. How you're supposed to play is very quickly obvious, and with the drawings you don't need to know that text to understand the gist of the story.
From my brief playing I got the impression that it would best be done either lightly localized (translate the text, keep the songs and settings) to appeal to the wacky jappy fans without a lot of work, or replace most everything but the play system to give it a broader western appeal. Since it seems it's already been mentioned the songs are being changed, I guess it's closer to the latter.
JonathanEx
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Also, the interview with Morgan of X-Play said: "but I also like, you know this game for the DS, it's called [oops!-ed]. It's the US version of [bad Morgan Webb! bad!]."Chris Remo said:
Which originally read:
"it's called Elite Agent Force. It's the US version of Ouendan."
http://www.n-philes.com/features.php?id=252