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Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes gameplay demo
- Thread starter SolidSnakex
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This video is the best one, and it should be put in the OP. Directfeed video from PAX, with extended gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4daA1-XET_k
radioheadrule83
Banned
The only thing I'm really impressed by is:
- specular lit surfaces in the thunder, when thunder flashes the rocks light up in the right places, and it looks really good.
- the star-trek-esque horizontal light/lens flares. Subtle use of it in places, but it's good the way the effect works when the view is obstructed by a railing or whatever. It adds quite a lot to the cutscene bits especially.
- Flapping, or blowing capes and hair.
Similarly, I thought the nicest thing about Watchdogs was things like the nighttime field of view / bokeh effect, the reflective maps on the cars and so forth. Otherwise it looked like a current gen game.
The lighting model looks beautiful here, but I can believe that its doable on current hardware.
- specular lit surfaces in the thunder, when thunder flashes the rocks light up in the right places, and it looks really good.
- the star-trek-esque horizontal light/lens flares. Subtle use of it in places, but it's good the way the effect works when the view is obstructed by a railing or whatever. It adds quite a lot to the cutscene bits especially.
- Flapping, or blowing capes and hair.
Similarly, I thought the nicest thing about Watchdogs was things like the nighttime field of view / bokeh effect, the reflective maps on the cars and so forth. Otherwise it looked like a current gen game.
The lighting model looks beautiful here, but I can believe that its doable on current hardware.
evil_ash_xero
Banned
One of the things that excites me, is that after Peace Walker, I know he can make a game that is primarily game play. And from what I understand, that's his intent.
MGS4, while good, really blew it's load on the cinemas. I don't think many MGS fans could handle another game that story based again.
I kind of get the impression that this will be Peace Walker 2, with the big jump to HD.
And the graphics are unbelievable.
MGS4, while good, really blew it's load on the cinemas. I don't think many MGS fans could handle another game that story based again.
I kind of get the impression that this will be Peace Walker 2, with the big jump to HD.
And the graphics are unbelievable.
Canis lupus
Member
Thanks for that link.
Solid warrior
Banned
@ ~2:00
SolidusDave
Member
I'm a bit confused. If the boy in the cage is indeed Chico, he doesn't seem to be much older since Peace Walker; plus that comment that they found Paz.
That would put Ground Zeroes maybe like 1-2 years after PW?
But Big Boss seems to have aged much more IMO.
Ground Zeroes sounds like a play of words with the MGS4 ending in mind...
I still have to finish PW HD, but I guess the setting of the next real MGS will give me the motivation to do so.
Although I'm not sure why this isn't called MGS5? Maybe to not deter the 360 crowd?
It raises a lot of gameplay questions that you can switch settings with the helicopter just like that. I guess it works as to save the game etc. in these bigger areas? Will you be returned to the exact same point?
I have to admit that I need to see more gameplay. I really like the bigger areas in Act2 in MGS4 and I don't like the feeling of missions/instant helicopter escapes&returns etc. in PW, but that was for the portable gameplay.
Looks great and I think the gameplay part will actually look like that on current consoles, minus maybe some of the PQ. It's a lot of effects that make this look good, not super high-res textures etc., probably even looks shitty if they had zoomed in ;p
I wonder though if the cutscenes will be realtime again and how big the areas are. Maybe they just have some good streaming tricks in the fox engine.
That would put Ground Zeroes maybe like 1-2 years after PW?
But Big Boss seems to have aged much more IMO.
Ground Zeroes sounds like a play of words with the MGS4 ending in mind...
I still have to finish PW HD, but I guess the setting of the next real MGS will give me the motivation to do so.
Although I'm not sure why this isn't called MGS5? Maybe to not deter the 360 crowd?
It raises a lot of gameplay questions that you can switch settings with the helicopter just like that. I guess it works as to save the game etc. in these bigger areas? Will you be returned to the exact same point?
I have to admit that I need to see more gameplay. I really like the bigger areas in Act2 in MGS4 and I don't like the feeling of missions/instant helicopter escapes&returns etc. in PW, but that was for the portable gameplay.
Looks great and I think the gameplay part will actually look like that on current consoles, minus maybe some of the PQ. It's a lot of effects that make this look good, not super high-res textures etc., probably even looks shitty if they had zoomed in ;p
I wonder though if the cutscenes will be realtime again and how big the areas are. Maybe they just have some good streaming tricks in the fox engine.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Well, I just saw it and I don't believe it at all. It won't look like this when it's actually played, because that was next generation stuff. That was even better looking than the Killzone 2 tech demo from E3...
Is there a download link for this video? Preferably one that'll work on a PS3.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Kojima could do as many prequels as he wants; just give me The Boss' adventures during the Second World War.
Supreme Stephan
Member
The reason it's not called MGS5 is probably because this isn't MGS5. Kojima said he wanted to bring Solid Snake back, so maybe MGS5 is development for next-gen with Solid as the protagonist. In other words, the '5' tag is reserved for a sequel, not a prequel.
The One Who Knocks
Member
This game is a prologue to Metal Gear Solid 5, which would indicate that it will be a Metal Gear Remake.
SJRB
Gold Member
But lord Kojima played it, live and on stage in front of 3000 people..
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
hey, mgs as a brand sells and large quantities of money is a great persuasion.
Supreme Stephan
Member
Remember Rising 1.0?
SolidusDave
Member
ah yeah, just read that statement. Interesting and I get the same conclusion.
Would be awesome to start the new gen with a MG(1) remake/re-imagination.
TheBioLover
Member
I wonder when MGS5 will be set...I wouldn't be surprised if it's set after MGS4 and Kojima brings snake back with some nanomachines BS.
matrix-cat
Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've almost never seen night time gameplay in an MGS game before. I can only think of the short section between crashing your rocket drone and meeting up with EVA at the start of Operation Snake Eater in MGS3, and the darkness didn't really have much of an effect on the gameplay. It'd be so amazing if you could use the darkness to aide you in sneaking around, even moreso if the rainstorms get heavy enough to mask your movements.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
They are still a huge improvement over MGS4, plus they can still tune a lot of stuff!
So... the next step in gaming graphics has finally and officially been taken. Too bad that character animation is still lagging behind.
Horse Armour
Member
I agree. The lighting looked nice but none of the textures, shaders or models looked next gen to me. It looked more like a very nice upgraded PC version of a current gen console game like Crysis 3 PC which whilst looking much nicer than the console versions, doesn't look next gen.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Sorry if answered: were the cinematics in real-time? Also why was Justin Bieber locked up?
Supreme Stephan
Member
This leads me to believe it's a prologue in general, not a prologue to MGS5.G4TV said:
Yeah of course, and I fully expected to see more, still fronted by Kojima, but I believe this is the first time he's had one in the chamber so to speak. During every game he'll say it's his last, then maybe hint it's not, then we get the new one confirmed. This is the first time he's said, here is my next Metal Gear, and there's another one coming after that.
Where/when did he say this? Also, what's the best source to read up about Kojima Productions presence at PAX? I sort of missed out on the whole thing.
No thanks. I'd rather wait for the source 1080p with original quality.
It is for the PS3 and Xbox 360, watch the gameplay footage right after the credits, there's the PS3 and Xbox 360 logos there. And the US PS Blog confirms that it's coming to the PS3 as well.
Many things can change between an early demo and final release.
SJRB
Gold Member
I most definately do. In all fairness though Kojima had little to do with that project. There's a perfect developer interview on youtube on the failure of Rising, where it all went wrong before Kojima finally took control and contacted Platinum. When Rising 1.0 first was shown it was all vague as hell - there was a concept but no actual game. They had an idea of slicing things up but flat out stated they had nothing else. The project was doomed from the start.
In this case however Kojima is on top of things. There is a story, gameplay elements, a fully-developed engine. I have much faith that this is representative of the final version.
Opus Angelorum
Member
The lighting and cloth physics are the impressive parts, I'd suggest they are DX11 and won't look as good on PS3/Xbox 360.
He said it at PAX yesterday, you can dig through the other thread if you want the tweets that mention it.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Hmm, I personally think that the models in this game are outstanding. This looks "next-gen" to me, especially in motion where you can see every inch of rain on the skin + how they react to it.
The Tanker chapter in MGS2 and Act 3 in MGS4 both happen at night. But it didn't mean anything in those cases either.
The graphics are great, but I feel like the demo was more about building the setting then about communicating how the game plays. I like the suggestion of a much more open world, which reminds me of some of the larger areas in Act 2 of MGS4, but outside of the map and the idea of using vehicles, not a lot actually happened.
TheBioLover
Member
A PC with the specs of a PS3, so it should look practically like this on PS3/360.
Apparently a PC speced similar to a PS3, which I doubt. I'm really interested to see how the current gen consoles handle this and Watch Dogs.
Solid warrior
Banned
Yes, They were real-time.
Didn't you see when he gave the tape recorder to Bieber? he is clearly rehearsing.
http://jatillapan-japan.blogspot.se/2009/01/presentation.html
Blog from a Swedish guy named Ludvig Forsell about studying at some place in Japan. Ought to be him?
Blog from a Swedish guy named Ludvig Forsell about studying at some place in Japan. Ought to be him?
Sure, but this footage was definitely running on a high-end PC.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
That video was pretty damn impressive.
compression not withstanding it looked really good, if this was all real time rendering fuck thats alot of cloth simulation going(unless they are canned animations).
And the as far as i can tell real time reflections hell this must be one hell of an engine to handle all this on console at 60fps.
Im officially impressed by this engine, once they finish this game i imagine it will look much better and if a PC version is released.....fuck!
P.S Are we allowed to say puts Splinter Cell to shame cuz the actual gameplay parts reminded me so much of Chaos Theory then i see what Splinter Cell has become and i just sigh.
compression not withstanding it looked really good, if this was all real time rendering fuck thats alot of cloth simulation going(unless they are canned animations).
And the as far as i can tell real time reflections hell this must be one hell of an engine to handle all this on console at 60fps.
Im officially impressed by this engine, once they finish this game i imagine it will look much better and if a PC version is released.....fuck!
P.S Are we allowed to say puts Splinter Cell to shame cuz the actual gameplay parts reminded me so much of Chaos Theory then i see what Splinter Cell has become and i just sigh.