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The
missions were still a pain in the ass :lol I totally dig controlling multiple units though. Also it was a nice touch to see
in one of the later missions.
Also I felt like I cheated in the single player campaign somehow, since I managed to
throughout most of the campaign by
It's fun, the graphics are gorgeous, wish it was longer and bigger in scale.
solo
a couple familiar ghosts pop up as support as Charlie team
Also I felt like I cheated in the single player campaign somehow, since I managed to
keep the camera gun
dropping it on a ground before each rally point and picking it back up again afterwards
It's fun, the graphics are gorgeous, wish it was longer and bigger in scale.
Wario64 said:
:lol i was thinking the same. worst ending in quite some time... they could have at least had the helicopter fly you out while the credits rolled... hell, the credits didnt even have music playing during them... wtf?
i just wrapped up the campaign, and while it was really awesome and a step up from the first game, god damn was it short. i completed the whole thing on the default difficulty in a single days playing, so it couldnt have taken me more then 5 hours at the very most.
I just finished GRAW1 today and booted up GRAW2. I'm probably about halfway now. Playing them back-to-back, GRAW2's gameplay and technical improvements are nicely appreciated. It's been a pretty fun experience so far. The chopper MG scenarios are my favorite.
The music is just awesome. It really helps to up the intensity when an epic battle picks up. Very awesome.
The lack of a main campaign coop is a real shame, but at least there's some sort of coop. I'm not sure why they had to take out 3rd person view and the cover system for multiplayer, though :/
The music is just awesome. It really helps to up the intensity when an epic battle picks up. Very awesome.
The lack of a main campaign coop is a real shame, but at least there's some sort of coop. I'm not sure why they had to take out 3rd person view and the cover system for multiplayer, though :/
AltogetherAndrews
Member
If I ever accused this game of being a quick and dirty sequel, I should be ashamed of myself. This is how sequels should be done. Build on what works, introduce new ideas, objects and scenarios, and then ship it. Certain elements of GRAW that I wasn't particularly partial to are still in the game, but this seems like a much more substantial product than the first GRAW.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Blimblim said:
What.
It's a well documented issue with NVidia GPUs. Until the 8 series you couldn't have both HDR and FSAA at the same time, at least in standard modes. That's why Ninja Theory created a new HDR mode they called NAO32 that works with FSAA.Sho_Nuff82 said:
Multiplatform devs most certainly won't take the time for such stuff until later in this generation's life.
I decided to go ahead and grab this game last week (on sale) and am enjoying it just as much as the original. There's just something about these GRAW titles that really work well for me. Vegas couldn't compare and Splinter Cell isn't my cup of tea. GRAW is just so incredibly entertaining.
I wonder if they'll use AF instead (as has been the case with many multiplatform titles where AA is dropped)?Blimblim said:
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
This game is too short.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
The "problem" I have with this game isn't even really related to the quality of the game itself, but more related to how it compares to Ghost Recon of old. Based on what I've played so far, the focus seems to be on technology, and how you utilize that technology in condensed response warfare. The battles are larger, louder and more intense, which in itself is pretty cool, but it feels pretty detached from the original Ghost Recon. You don't feel like a ghost in the same sense as in the old games, and I do miss that. And I still prefer the clean look of MP to the fx-ridden but cluttered SP.
Blimblim said:
Thanks Blimblim.
Kinda odd we now know more about the ps3 version of GRAW2 than Rainbow Six Vegas, when RSV is coming out in like 4 weeks (which was actually supposed to come out months ago).
Have you heard anything about RSV perhaps?
How long is it?DaCocoBrova said:
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
It can be finished in 6 to 8 hours.Bad_Boy said:
AltogetherAndrews
Member
On the other hand, the multi-player is insanely full featured and satisfying.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
It's ok, only six missions though and it doesn't look anything like the single player. Multiplayer isn't great either but I do agree that it's fully featured (different engine). It just bothers me that the multiplayer in GRAW 2 is virtually unchanged compared to Ghost Recon 2, and I already hated it there.Bad_Boy said:Thats always good. Gives a game legs.
How's the co-op?
AltogetherAndrews
Member
MicVlaD said:
You're right, it actually looks better. Cleaner and with less faux shit effects designed to emulate shit optical flaws.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Not quite. Worse framerate, less detail on some part, shoddy animation, worse explosions and lots of screen tearing. It obviously looks prettier than GRAW 1's multiplayer and it has sharper textures than the SP, but I wouldn't necessarily call the MP the better looking half of the game...AltogetherAndrews said:
Okay, impressions from a non-shooter fan:
Well, I shouldn't say that. I played the first one, Gears, R6, and a few other big Xbox 360 shooters like Lost Planet and such, but I'm not the biggest fan. So I added it to my Gamefly queue cause I didn't have much else to play. Finally got it the other day and I'm alternating between this and Pokemon.
I think Graw 2 is significantly better than Graw 1 in mission design, and I liked them both better than Rainbow 6 Vegas. But I have some issues with the game. I'm only through the middle of Act 2-- I just saved the journalist or whatever and I'm heading to the extraction point now. Perhaps it is the end of act 2.
Anyway, I much, much prefer this seamless mission structure to what Graw 1 had, which was basically "GO HERE GO HERE GO HERE GO HERE GO HERE" carrot-on-a-string mechanic. I remember wanting to know when the hell it was going to end. I find Graw 2's single player missions to be nicely paced and a good length, but looking at the achievements, are there only three acts? Seems like a pretty short game!
Graphically, the game lacks the same awe the first one had...mainly cause it's been surpassed I think (unlike the other games when the first one came out), and also, because it isn't the first game. Nice touches though, like dirt blowing around, sun glare, etc. Feels really authentically "PUEBLO." At least that's the impression I got from it. It feels like a much cleaner game than R6. Other than the character models, which I think are a little ugly looking. And they don't animate as well as R6. Mitchell kind of glides across the ground like an ice ballerina. I have no idea why Ubi got UE3 for R6, cause Graw looks better.
GRAW to me is infinitely more fun than R6 because I enjoy the large open environments and the outdoorsy feeling, but the biggest problem I have with the game are the AI settings. The AI has to be special olympics quality. They just can't seem to get anything done on their own. In R6, I'd give a command and basically sit back and watch as my teammates carried out whatever I wanted. I'd step in and take care of what they couldn't. In this game, I give them strategic positioning and in a few minutes they're usually still there...failing at life. They suck and they're really annoying. I set a C4 charge in the mission where I had the Mexican soldiers with me...they all ran away from the C4 and were safe, my team ran TO the C4 and exploded, wasting three medkits. Great.
The sound is much improved from last year. I can remember only a few memorable pieces from GRAW1, like Zocalo Plaza. This game has interesting music. It's almost operatic at points.
I don't like controlling the mule/cypher/teammates in first person. To me it is just a distraction from the main game...which is shooting enemies because my teammates can't. Someone described it to me as "only 10 seconds" at a time, but I'd say it's a pretty unfun ten seconds to have to man the stupid cypher. 10 seconds of unfun. Bungie would be very unhappy.
I don't play multiplayer for various reasons, but mainly because I tried a match and I was dropped in like instance I tried to get in. Hooray Ubi!
Also, I think their attempts at story/dialog need to stop. This is not the first Clancy game where I find myself rolling my eyes. Mitchell: I HAVE NO NAME. Sure you do, I can see it on the back of your little outfit. Also, two different, "Keep your eyes on the road," references. :lol Whatever, don't even try. We get it, he's a tough guy.
Anyway, fun game.
edit: And I'm waiting for the PS3 version so I can laugh at it.
Well, I shouldn't say that. I played the first one, Gears, R6, and a few other big Xbox 360 shooters like Lost Planet and such, but I'm not the biggest fan. So I added it to my Gamefly queue cause I didn't have much else to play. Finally got it the other day and I'm alternating between this and Pokemon.
I think Graw 2 is significantly better than Graw 1 in mission design, and I liked them both better than Rainbow 6 Vegas. But I have some issues with the game. I'm only through the middle of Act 2-- I just saved the journalist or whatever and I'm heading to the extraction point now. Perhaps it is the end of act 2.
Anyway, I much, much prefer this seamless mission structure to what Graw 1 had, which was basically "GO HERE GO HERE GO HERE GO HERE GO HERE" carrot-on-a-string mechanic. I remember wanting to know when the hell it was going to end. I find Graw 2's single player missions to be nicely paced and a good length, but looking at the achievements, are there only three acts? Seems like a pretty short game!
Graphically, the game lacks the same awe the first one had...mainly cause it's been surpassed I think (unlike the other games when the first one came out), and also, because it isn't the first game. Nice touches though, like dirt blowing around, sun glare, etc. Feels really authentically "PUEBLO." At least that's the impression I got from it. It feels like a much cleaner game than R6. Other than the character models, which I think are a little ugly looking. And they don't animate as well as R6. Mitchell kind of glides across the ground like an ice ballerina. I have no idea why Ubi got UE3 for R6, cause Graw looks better.
GRAW to me is infinitely more fun than R6 because I enjoy the large open environments and the outdoorsy feeling, but the biggest problem I have with the game are the AI settings. The AI has to be special olympics quality. They just can't seem to get anything done on their own. In R6, I'd give a command and basically sit back and watch as my teammates carried out whatever I wanted. I'd step in and take care of what they couldn't. In this game, I give them strategic positioning and in a few minutes they're usually still there...failing at life. They suck and they're really annoying. I set a C4 charge in the mission where I had the Mexican soldiers with me...they all ran away from the C4 and were safe, my team ran TO the C4 and exploded, wasting three medkits. Great.
The sound is much improved from last year. I can remember only a few memorable pieces from GRAW1, like Zocalo Plaza. This game has interesting music. It's almost operatic at points.
I don't like controlling the mule/cypher/teammates in first person. To me it is just a distraction from the main game...which is shooting enemies because my teammates can't. Someone described it to me as "only 10 seconds" at a time, but I'd say it's a pretty unfun ten seconds to have to man the stupid cypher. 10 seconds of unfun. Bungie would be very unhappy.
I don't play multiplayer for various reasons, but mainly because I tried a match and I was dropped in like instance I tried to get in. Hooray Ubi!
Also, I think their attempts at story/dialog need to stop. This is not the first Clancy game where I find myself rolling my eyes. Mitchell: I HAVE NO NAME. Sure you do, I can see it on the back of your little outfit. Also, two different, "Keep your eyes on the road," references. :lol Whatever, don't even try. We get it, he's a tough guy.
Anyway, fun game.
edit: And I'm waiting for the PS3 version so I can laugh at it.
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Even though you really hate controlling things that aren't the main character, you can make the friendly AI a lot better by holding RB and assigning individual targets to them. Or if that's too much bother, just put them someplace to distract the enemy and flank by yourself
Twicenightly
Member
Y2Kevbug11 said:
My guys did the same thing! I was even giving them the "regroup" command and they were saying "I can't do that sir" just before they got blown up!:lol
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
chespace said:
Enjoy the SP while it lasts...
Just beat it.
Muahauhauhauhauha Ubisoft, stop trying to write meaningful stories and dialog. Muhauhauahuahuahauhauha. First R6's little story excitement and now this melodramatic puke. If they simply wanted to assign the player an avatar and then fellate the avatar to death for some feel good purpose, I suggest they add loot drops and invincibility to Graw 3 (due Feb 2008!) for maximum benefit.
Cool single player though. Enjoyed the game. Gonna send it off back to Gamefly now.
Muahauhauhauhauha Ubisoft, stop trying to write meaningful stories and dialog. Muhauhauahuahuahauhauha. First R6's little story excitement and now this melodramatic puke. If they simply wanted to assign the player an avatar and then fellate the avatar to death for some feel good purpose, I suggest they add loot drops and invincibility to Graw 3 (due Feb 2008!) for maximum benefit.
Cool single player though. Enjoyed the game. Gonna send it off back to Gamefly now.
PuppetSlave
Member
So... Been playing this coop at a friend and having a blast but now a new update came and they changed the way they cut up the screen! Instead of gears of war style they have a las vegas splitscreen style... ANy way to change this back?
Sorry to revive an old thread but I need an outlet for some serious frustration.
As a huge Ghost Recon fan, I buy GRAW2 on day one. I play a lot of multiplayer, learn the maps, everything is cool. I'm really liking it. Not to beat my own drum too loudly, I consider myself to be a good player. I quickly rank up to level 4.
Then my 360 breaks, which is fine since I had it since launch day. I send out a request for a coffin, mail it back of MS, and wait for a new one. I'm console-less from April 12th to April 25th.
I load up some GRAW, eager to get back into it. I join a room. Most of the players in the room now have ranks between 5-8, compared to 1-4 when my 360 broke down. I'm waiting for some more players to join when I receive a message "you have been ejected from the room." I don' think too much about it. I join another room. I get the message "you have been ejected from the room." I start to clue into what's happening.
I am no longer 'permitted' to play because my rank is too low!!!
If you didn't know, Ubisoft, in their infinite wisdom, set ranked games up to give more points for killing higher ranked players. If you don't rank up quickly or are new to the game, you're going to have one hell of a hard time getting into a ranked game. I feel real sorry for people getting this game a few months after its release. If I can't get into a game, how the hell are rank 1 players going to survive? How does this encourage long-term sales for the game?
Before you say "play player matches", I hate player matches. I don't play ranked because I feel better about myself for getting ranked up. I could really care less. I play ranked because I want to play the best players. The game is a lot more fun this way.
So, Ubisoft, please don't implement this feature again. In R6, you rank up slower if you suck and faster if you win often. You get points for playing, period. Everyone ranks up, eventually. In GRAW, you can't rank up if you lose. And, you rank up slower if you play lower ranked players. It's a huge, if not impossible barrier, for new people to the game.
/rant
As a huge Ghost Recon fan, I buy GRAW2 on day one. I play a lot of multiplayer, learn the maps, everything is cool. I'm really liking it. Not to beat my own drum too loudly, I consider myself to be a good player. I quickly rank up to level 4.
Then my 360 breaks, which is fine since I had it since launch day. I send out a request for a coffin, mail it back of MS, and wait for a new one. I'm console-less from April 12th to April 25th.
I load up some GRAW, eager to get back into it. I join a room. Most of the players in the room now have ranks between 5-8, compared to 1-4 when my 360 broke down. I'm waiting for some more players to join when I receive a message "you have been ejected from the room." I don' think too much about it. I join another room. I get the message "you have been ejected from the room." I start to clue into what's happening.
I am no longer 'permitted' to play because my rank is too low!!!
If you didn't know, Ubisoft, in their infinite wisdom, set ranked games up to give more points for killing higher ranked players. If you don't rank up quickly or are new to the game, you're going to have one hell of a hard time getting into a ranked game. I feel real sorry for people getting this game a few months after its release. If I can't get into a game, how the hell are rank 1 players going to survive? How does this encourage long-term sales for the game?
Before you say "play player matches", I hate player matches. I don't play ranked because I feel better about myself for getting ranked up. I could really care less. I play ranked because I want to play the best players. The game is a lot more fun this way.
So, Ubisoft, please don't implement this feature again. In R6, you rank up slower if you suck and faster if you win often. You get points for playing, period. Everyone ranks up, eventually. In GRAW, you can't rank up if you lose. And, you rank up slower if you play lower ranked players. It's a huge, if not impossible barrier, for new people to the game.
/rant