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Lee N · Sep 3, 2007

Mihara (of Arika fame) mentions on his blog that there might be a new video and details of Ketsui DS coming this Friday (9/7), if they can get it done in time.

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We have seen offscreen footage of a special download play version before, but maybe this means there's an actual game coming out. I sure hope so at least, the DS needs a good shmup. Colour me excited.

UPDATE: Video is online now, as promised:

http://www.arikaonline.com/download/movie/kds_prom20070907.mpg

Visualante · Sep 3, 2007

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ltpd_ketsui-ds_videogames

Looks at least a million times better than Nanostray. Sounds bad though.

Pureauthor · Sep 3, 2007

Ooh, a shmup? I'm interested.

duckroll · Sep 3, 2007

It's not quite a shmup. The original Ketsui in the arcades is a Cave shmup which is so goddamn intensive it couldn't be ported to the PS2. The DS version that is being worked on is more of a boss rush mode with score rankings I believe.

Munin · Sep 3, 2007

Not interested if it's still only a boss rush version...

Pureauthor · Sep 3, 2007

duckroll said:
It's not quite a shmup. The original Ketsui in the arcades is a Cave shmup which is so goddamn intensive it couldn't be ported to the PS2. The DS version that is being worked on is more of a boss rush mode with score rankings I believe.

...Oh.

Oh well.

Lee N · Sep 3, 2007

duckroll said:
The DS version that is being worked on is more of a boss rush mode with score rankings I believe.

Does that make it any less of a shmup? I really like Warning Forever, which is all bosses.

Anyway, hopefully we'll know more on Friday.

drohne · Sep 3, 2007

huh -- so is this actually coming out? it's kind of bittersweet to get a ds boss rush instead of ketsui itself, but i guess i'm always up for a portable shooter. beggars, choosers, etc.

duckroll · Sep 3, 2007

Lee N said:
Does that make it any less of a shmup? I really like Warning Forever, which is all bosses.

Anyway, hopefully we'll know more on Friday.

Well, it makes it less of a shmup when it's just a bossrush component of an existing shmup, imo. But only time will tell what crazy Mihana is up to.

manzo · Sep 3, 2007

Mihara should get this shit out of DS and put it to XLBA or PSN. It's a shame to put such an awesome danmaku shmup to a DS.

Putting Ketsui to DS is like playing Mushihimesama on a mobile phone.

Saitou · Sep 3, 2007

As much as I like shmups, I do not like Cave shmups. Call me a heretic all you will, they're just not fun.

I need money to finance some Touhou homebrew ports v_v

manzo · Sep 3, 2007

Saitou said:
As much as I like shmups, I do not like Cave shmups. Call me a heretic all you will, they're just not fun.

I need money to finance some Touhou homebrew ports v_v

They need to bring us more shmups to XLBA or PSN period.

duckroll · Sep 3, 2007

manzo said:
Putting Ketsui to DS is like playing Mushihimesama on a mobile phone.

Now that you mention it..... http://www.cave.co.jp/mobile/ge-sen/imode_02.html

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Tain · Sep 4, 2007

I don't know if I can avoid buying this. =/

aku:jiki · Sep 4, 2007

Saitou said:
As much as I like shmups, I do not like Cave shmups. Call me a heretic all you will, they're just not fun.

I need money to finance some Touhou homebrew ports v_v

Knocking Cave but loving Touhou is like...man, I can't even be bothered to come up with something clever. That opinion is just dumb and insightless to me.

ghibli99 · Sep 4, 2007

Tain said:
I don't know if I can avoid buying this. =/

Me, neither.

Lee N · Sep 5, 2007

Mihara just updated his blog saying that he's not happy with the capture quality of the Ketsui video.. so maybe we won't see a video on friday after all.

http://mihara.sub.jp/top/blog/sb203/log/eid1173.html

Saitou · Sep 5, 2007

aku:jiki said:
Knocking Cave but loving Touhou is like...man, I can't even be bothered to come up with something clever. That opinion is just dumb and insightless to me.

Well, Touhou is more than just the shmups. Most of the appeal comes from the endless fanworks. And the music. I find myself listening to Touhou mixes nonstop for the past four or five months now.

Besides, all the Touhou games are pretty different >_>

At least we can all agree that doujin shmups pale in comparison to Treasure shmups?

Lee N · Sep 7, 2007

Ok, I've updated the main post with a link to the video.

duckroll · Sep 7, 2007

So... slow.... >_<

japtor · Sep 7, 2007

Lee N said:
Does that make it any less of a shmup? I really like Warning Forever, which is all bosses.

depends on the rest of the game is.

in the case of ketsui, the rest of the game is great. i havent played any of the newer stuff (everything after espgaluda), but its the best of the older games.

anyways the video finally finished downloading. looks pretty nice, seems like all the patterns are there, some are running slower (but smoother), and looks like they added in some more boss parts to break for score attack purposes.

n3ss · Sep 7, 2007

day 1 purchase!

Any idea what said at the end of the video...?

edit: The end of the video mentions the Cave festival (Sept 23-24). Hopefully this will be playable there!

Bebpo · Sep 7, 2007

Looks really good for a port to the DS.

Shame it's only boss battles, but the boss battles are good times. I would say they should sell it at 1/2 price because you're getting 1/2 the game, but Arika needs all the money it can get so I'll pick it up at full price to support them and get some shmup goodness on the go.

thanks · Sep 7, 2007

Good shmup news lately! First the Triggerheart Exelica to XBLA and now more Ketsui ds stuff, I can't help but fap! Sometimes I really wish this genre weren't full of such crazy elitists, but still, sometimes, that's part of the charm. At least (I don't think) we don't have any PCB-only fans here. Then this thread would get fuckingwrecked. Personally I'm really really really excited for this, and in the video I didn't notice any slowdown, and call me crazy but I like the way it sounds (yes even being all tinny and shitty).

Edit: Anyone in Japan that could attend that Cave event? Looks like Ketsui might have another demo playtest thing there on the 23rd. Can anyone who actually is able to read/speak moonspeak confirm this?

Gwanatu T · Sep 7, 2007

Lee N said:
Does that make it any less of a shmup? I really like Warning Forever, which is all bosses.

Anyway, hopefully we'll know more on Friday.

A shmup is a shmup to me, and this one looks better than Nanostray, so it's looking like a must for me. I'm a big Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga fan, among the other great shmups out there, so I'm stoked. Does this have online leaderboards? That would make it a totally complete package.

schild · Sep 7, 2007

Gwanatu T said:
Does this have online leaderboards? That would make it a totally complete package.

Joke post? Yea, it'll have leaderboards. Your name will be your friend code though, with no dashes, and the columns won't be labeled, so people will just have to figure out which is the score and which is the friend code.

manzo · Sep 7, 2007

duckroll said:
Now that you mention it..... http://www.cave.co.jp/mobile/ge-sen/imode_02.html

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

The horror..

Tain · Sep 7, 2007

The video looks as good as one would expect from Arika.

Mihara mentions that the bullet patterns needed to be slowed down and resized for the DS version. grargh real honest console port instead of this remix snarl.

And this could be one boss long and be better than Nanostray.

Peru · Sep 7, 2007

Let's keep the Nano hate under check, the first was flawed to unplayability in many ways but #2 really does look a whole lot better - problems solved, general improvement. Not that Nanostray and this are in any way similar beasts, so comparisons aren't relevant.

Dachande · Sep 7, 2007

Bollocks. Boss rush is boring. The real meat of the game is everything else. Bosses are trimmings, and nothing but trimmings is shite. Full game or nothing, thanks. Just make it for PSN or XBL or something, Jesus.

Tain · Sep 7, 2007

Let's keep the Nano hate under check, the first was flawed to unplayability in many ways but #2 really does look a whole lot better - problems solved, general improvement. Not that Nanostray and this are in any way similar beasts, so comparisons aren't relevant.

Oh, it's not hate. It's unbridled Cave (or semi-Cave) love. <3

radios shipping overview · Sep 7, 2007

Looks a bit like a fan game. Which I guess it sort of is at this point, except the fan in question is one of Arika's bigwigs. Still, that's a shit-ton of sprites. I'll probably buy this regardless.

â Narayan · Sep 7, 2007

Dachande said:
Bollocks. Boss rush is boring. The real meat of the game is everything else. Bosses are trimmings, and nothing but trimmings is shite. Full game or nothing, thanks. Just make it for PSN or XBL or something, Jesus.

Yeah, seriously.

BrodiemanTTR · Sep 7, 2007

Put the real game on a next-gen console plz, this looks excellent.

ghibli99 · Sep 7, 2007

Downloading... slowly. Come on...

Alright, just watched it. I can't imagine how I'm going to play this on the DS screen... is the 9/23 date its release date or just one of those "event/campaign" things?

Tain · Sep 7, 2007

Put the real game on a next-gen console plz, this looks excellent.

As much as I don't want to buy one, the Wii is the only platform out there right now (save PCs) that can display the game in its original resolution. That'd be nice.

I'd take it on whatever I can get, though.

perryfarrell · Sep 7, 2007

Looks good. How does the multiplier system in Ketsui work?

Mr_Furious · Sep 7, 2007

Cave needs to do a better job getting their arcade efforts ported to home consoles. There are so many awesome Cave shooters not on a home console that it's fucking criminal. Cave hates money and they must hate their fans enough to deny what we want. Goddammit, now I've gone and made myself depressed.

RyanDG · Sep 7, 2007

Mr_Furious said:
Cave needs to do a better job getting their arcade efforts ported to home consoles. There are so many awesome Cave shooters not on a home console that it's fucking criminal. Cave hates money and they must hate their fans enough to deny what we want. Goddammit, now I've gone and made myself depressed.

Blame Sony. Sony doesn't want Ketsui on the PS3 because its not next gen.

ghibli99 · Sep 7, 2007

RyanDG said:
Blame Sony. Sony doesn't want Ketsui on the PS3 because its not next gen.

Should be on XBLA or PSN... but then here we'd go with the "Cave is too proud to sell their shit for cheap" discussion.

I think I'll go home and play some DDPDOJ tonight.

RyanDG · Sep 7, 2007

ghibli99 said:
Should be on XBLA or PSN... but then here we'd go with the "Cave is too proud to sell their shit for cheap" discussion.

I think I'll go home and play some DDPDOJ tonight.

Yeah... My comment was really supposed to be sarcastic more than anything. Any time Cave ports are mentioned, someone always brings up the bad blood between Arika and Sony in regards to the PS3 port of Ketsui.

I've been on a bit of a Cave run lately myself. I've finally picked up the Dangun Feveron PCB that has been a sort of "missing" link of my collection. It remains my favorite Cave game to this day, despite the fact that there are other games technically superior to it.

Dancing men, disco, and shooters is just a combination meant for greatness.

Gwanatu T · Sep 7, 2007

schild said:
Joke post? Yea, it'll have leaderboards. Your name will be your friend code though, with no dashes, and the columns won't be labeled, so people will just have to figure out which is the score and which is the friend code.

I seriously forgot about the DS's gimped online stuff. Ugh, here's for hoping they can do something in that respect.

Peru · Sep 7, 2007

There are online leaderboards in other DS games.

Mr_Furious · Sep 7, 2007

RyanDG said:
Blame Sony. Sony doesn't want Ketsui on the PS3 because its not next gen.

Maybe I would if Sony were the only option but they're not. Cave can easily create a compilation that even Sony would approve. Sony Japan is not known for denying games and since the PS3 is region-free I'd gladly buy the import of a Cave comp if one existed.

Honestly I blame Cave not being aggressive enough in supporting the home market.

Tain · Sep 8, 2007

Honestly I blame Cave not being aggressive enough in supporting the home market.

It's never been something they were into. Maybe they don't figure it's worth the expense.

Taito seemed pretty content publishing Mushi and Ibara, though, so I'm going to go ahead and blame Square for me not being able to try some form of Espgaluda 2.

n3ss · Sep 9, 2007

Tain said:
It's never been something they were into. Maybe they don't figure it's worth the expense.

Taito seemed pretty content publishing Mushi and Ibara, though, so I'm going to go ahead and blame Square for me not being able to try some form of Espgaluda 2.

Espgaluda 2 is soooo awesome. Thank GOD SFSU's arcade has it <3

Fidelis Hodie · Sep 9, 2007

Fantastic.

Fantastic.

I love shmups.

clustering · Sep 9, 2007

thanks said:
First the Triggerheart Exelica to XBLA

Never heard about this. I'll definitely check it out if I ever get a 360.

Anyways: I'm so happy this game is really being made. I forgot about that video a long time ago and figured it wouldn't happen. I know I'm going to be getting this game as soon as possible. Cave is probably one of my favorite developers and it's unfortunate (but logical) that most fans in the West can't play their more recent games (unless you're dedicated/insane enough to buy PCBs).

Tain · Sep 9, 2007

Espgaluda 2 is soooo awesome. Thank GOD SFSU's arcade has it <3

There was a period a month or so ago where I considered Espgaluda 2 being my first PCB purchase.

I can't lose $500 right now, though, despite it maybe being the best time to buy it.

Rummy Bunnz · Sep 9, 2007

Tain said:
I can't lose $500 right now, though, despite it maybe being the best time to buy it.

This is so sad, because Cave PCB prices weren't too bad until that one douche over at shmups started offering outrageous sums for complete kits. I thought that would just lead to a temporary spike, but things have only gotten crazier. I paid like, $275 for Ketsui 3 years ago, which was a really expensive board and an insane amount to spend on a game but it was honestly worth it. I think most other older Cave games were around $100-200, Progear about $300. Now Ketsui's selling for what? $1000? $1500? And the recent games aren't dropping in price as fast as they used to. It's fucking retarded. I wish all the former Neo Geo collectors would move on to something else already.

Maybe I should sell all my boards to them now but I'm too ascared the market will never drop (even though it certainly will) and I won't be able to buy 'em all back.

DS version looks cool, even though I don't dig boss fights much. It better get released.

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