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coolasj19 · Oct 30, 2013

DieH@rd said:

Good enough. He says "at launch" and I believe him when he says he'll do something.

I know people don't like this but it's still true. It interesting that Sony/Yoshida has the benefit of the doubt and MS doesn't. If Pennello said that there would be even more rage.

trustter · Oct 30, 2013

Dead Man said:
That is a very good non answer. Not seeing that as any kind of comfirmation of anything :/

Very good point. We need to make sure that something will be done.

RayMaker · Oct 30, 2013

what so shu wants us to believe the dev team had not even considered mp3 playback and DNLA support?

lol yeah right shu

kmg90 · Oct 30, 2013

SPDIF said:
That's the closest we'll get for now. Not 100% clear if he means locally stored MP3s though.

Its a loaded question with a lot of loop holes... Xbox Music is a store and service "own music" could me music purchased through the store/service...

NullPointer · Oct 30, 2013

everyday math said:
What else is he supposed to say?

He was supposed to say that the FAQ was only speaking of launch and that of course the PS4 will support mp3 playback and music/media streaming.

Am I on crazy pills? That tweet didn't change a thing.

What am I missing?

silver.tongue · Oct 30, 2013

avaya said:
Yoshida's answer is pure bullshit.

Based on...

avaya said:
I hope MS reverse their decision and allow it and rub it in Sony's nose. Then we will see some change.

Oh, I see. Nvm, this shows a clear picture.

Arrogant Bastard · Oct 30, 2013

everyday math said:
What else is he supposed to say?

He's supposed to give a direct answer and tell me that it will be patched in the future, potentially he should tell me the precise date of the future patch. Right...oh wait no.

So how many people canceled their preorders over this?

jony_m · Oct 30, 2013

Carl · Oct 30, 2013

I'm not sure exactly what answer some people wanted :s Did you want him to say "sorry i'll stop here all day and night to make sure that the system supports MP3s and DNLA at launch"?

Liamario · Oct 30, 2013

Fenderputty said:
This. That was straight sales speak.

Indeed. A complete non answer and to be fair, it's not his department. Surely they knew people would complain about this. I can't see it coming anytime soon, if at all.

Camp Lo · Oct 30, 2013

NothingStopsThisTrain said:
It may seem like a big deal now, without any real word from Sony. Listen to Kagari, and wait for the full picture.

They seem to be ducking and dodging this for years. Like I said before, if they say Hell no, I won't even be mad. I'm damn sure not using MU if that's what they're pushing.

Viruz · Oct 30, 2013

avaya said:
Yoshida's answer is a total non-answer.

They know exactly what they're doing, they put in the effort to get their shitty music service to work but no DLNA and mp3.

From the response, yes of course they knew. We'll see, I'm sure they'll adapt as it's not a technical marvel to support both. 1.51

Fenderputty · Oct 30, 2013

Live Free or Die said:
What do you expect him to say? He's not in charge of the OS.

I dont expect much, but people here are running with that comment as though it's confirmation it's going to be patched in. He basically said a bunch of stuff without really saying anything is my point.

msdstc · Oct 30, 2013

Arrogant Bastard said:
And the PS3 did not have DLNA support until May, some six months post launch.

Lol and the launch of the ps3 was an unmitigated disaster. Not to mention that was 7 years ago. The technology still wasn't as well known. This is basic stuff now, we shouldn't be going backwards.

Miles Quaritch · Oct 30, 2013

NullPointer said:
I'm missing the good news part.

"We'll consider it in the future" isn't nearly the same as "we'll support it, just not at launch". Its kindof the opposite.

I assume they'll patch it in soon after release. Sony have been very quick to respond to any negative news and his response, while not definitive, does suggest they've taken it into consideration and will likely be patching it in when possible...

Saying that, I do wonder why they thought locking custom soundtracks/background music to a subscription was a good idea and why they didn't see the anger that would result from making such a decision...

NullPointer · Oct 30, 2013

Carl said:
I'm not sure exactly what answer some people wanted :s Did you want him to say "sorry i'll stop here all day and night to make sure that the system supports MP3s and DNLA at launch"?

How about "that support is coming in a firmware update post launch"?

Parablank · Oct 30, 2013

everyday math said:
What else is he supposed to say?

"I just got off the phone with the dev team and they will start adding in MP3 and DLNA support. Thanks for the perspective check."

I guess him acknowledging it is a decent enough reply. If MP3 and DLNA support isn't in by 2014 I'd consider his reply canned.

Live Free or Die · Oct 30, 2013

NullPointer said:
He was supposed to say that the FAQ was only speaking of launch and that of course the PS4 will support mp3 playback and music/media streaming.

Am I on crazy pills? That tweet didn't change a thing.

What am I missing?

He did say that though. He said "at launch".

borghe · Oct 30, 2013

kmg90 said:
Its a loaded question with a lot of loop holes... Xbox Music is a store and service "own music" could me music purchased through the store/service...

basically, yes. The way the question was asked and his minimal response doesn't imply anything different than what Sony is doing.

Not that I'm saying MS is lying.. just that the question and response is REALLY ambiguous.

Eggbok · Oct 30, 2013

Saw DLNA was trending lol.

lastflowers · Oct 30, 2013

NullPointer said:
He was supposed to say that the FAQ was only speaking of launch and that of course the PS4 will support mp3 playback and music/media streaming.

Am I on crazy pills? That tweet didn't change a thing.

What am I missing?

yeah, this is now more perturbing than before. I mean, still going to buy the box...but I won't be using this box nearly as much as I have used the ps3.

UNCMark · Oct 30, 2013

Live Free or Die said:
What do you expect him to say? He's not in charge of the OS.

Then don't answer. Or just say I'm going to get you a response. Then actually go get that answer and tweet it. His answer was nothing more than,"Hey maybe!"

Carl · Oct 30, 2013

Arrogant Bastard said:
He's supposed to give a direct answer and tell me that it will be patched in the future, potentially he should tell me the precise date of the future patch. Right...oh wait no.

So how many people canceled their preorders over this?

About 2 people maybe?

And it's pretty obvious they had no plans to put MP3 support in, so he's not going to promise it off the bat with no knowledge of what the developer team is doing

Loudninja · Oct 30, 2013

Fenderputty said:
I dont expect much, but people here are running with that comment as though it's confirmation it's going to be patched in. He basically said a bunch of stuff without really saying anything is my point.

People asked him.

avaya · Oct 30, 2013

silver.tongue said:
Based on...

Oh, I see. Nvm, this shows a clear picture.

I have no intention of ever buying a Bone and have a PS4 (multiple in fact) on pre-order. Those that can't see that this is not just an 'oversight' are being incredibly naive.

msdstc · Oct 30, 2013

Viruz said:
From the response, yes of course they knew. We'll see, I'm sure they'll adapt as it's not a technical marvel to support both.

It's the furthest thing from it... they would've already done it if they wanted to, but it gives them a shot to sell more stuff so they're doing it the bullshit way, same way they do it with their memory sticks on vita, all those hidden fees.

Bedlam · Oct 30, 2013

Ultimatepancake said:
Sony's been making some odd choices lately... What is the point in not allowing this or themes?

It's really weird. The whole #PS4NODRM thing should have made it crystal-clear to them that we don't like being restricted in such fashion.

NullPointer · Oct 30, 2013

Live Free or Die said:
He did say that though. He said "at launch".

He didn't say the system will *ever* have those features. He only said they'd consider it in the future.

NothingStopsThisTrain · Oct 30, 2013

Holy Crap said:
They seem to be ducking and dodging this for years. Like I said before, if they say Hell no, I won't even be mad. I'm damn sure not using MU if that's what they're pushing.

Will you be subscribing to plus?

coolasj19 · Oct 30, 2013

NullPointer said:
He was supposed to say that the FAQ was only speaking of launch and that of course the PS4 will support mp3 playback and music/media streaming.
Am I on crazy pills? That tweet didn't change a thing.
What am I missing?

Acknowledgement is the most we demand. And it's known that Yoshida-san keeps his finger on the pulse through Twitter and other means. It's a problem, and now we know they know it's a problem

kmg90 said:
Its a loaded question with a lot of loop holes... Xbox Music is a store and service "own music" could me music purchased through the store/service...

Yeah. That's a terrible question. And a perfect answer to it. Whatever. We'll wait for launch *sigh*

Carl · Oct 30, 2013

NullPointer said:
How about "that support is coming in a firmware update post launch"?

But it's obviously not planned, so why would he say it?

Mr. RHC · Oct 30, 2013

Eggbok said:
Saw DLNA was trending lol.

Tailored Trends.

Rebel Leader · Oct 30, 2013

Eggbok said:
Saw DLNA was trending lol.

Were those tailored?

Camp Lo · Oct 30, 2013

NothingStopsThisTrain said:
Will you be subscribing to plus?

Absolutely, I had it on PS3. Is MU included with that? If so, I might try it.

Arrogant Bastard · Oct 30, 2013

msdstc said:
Lol and the launch of the ps3 was an unmitigated disaster. Not to mention that was 7 years ago. The technology still wasn't as well known. This is basic stuff now, we shouldn't be going backwards.

Cannot wait to use my USB headsets on the PS4 at launch. Oh wait.

Meus Renaissance · Oct 30, 2013

"Future consideration" doesn't sound promisingly

Fenderputty · Oct 30, 2013

Loudninja said:
People asked him.

Ok? So? Does that somehow invalidate what I said?

S¡mon · Oct 30, 2013

NullPointer said:
He didn't say the system will *ever* have those features. He only said they'd consider it in the future.

No, he said he would pass it on to the Dev team who can consider it in the future.

Principate · Oct 30, 2013

Holy Crap said:
Absolutely, I had it on PS3. Is MU included with that? If so, I might try it.

Nah you get a discount but you still have to pay for it

Nastrodamous · Oct 30, 2013

its amazing that in 2013 you still cant hook up a home console and have it play music and all formats of video, with external harddrive support.

Killthee · Oct 30, 2013

SPDIF said:
That's the closest we'll get for now. Not 100% clear if he means locally stored MP3s though.

Someone should ask him if they've patched in background music support for launch. Back in Sept they said only snap mode would work at launch.

While the Xbox One's dashboard isn't finalized yet, he added, the Xbox Music app will be part of one of the main areas.

Initially the paid-only service will have limited use. Music won't, for instance, be able to play in the background while a person is playing a game. Instead, if someone wants to listen to songs from Xbox Music they will have to run it in snap mode, which takes up some of the side of the screen, and manually turn down a game's audio in the game's options.

The app will also not include any SmartGlass support for controlling music at launch, Johnson said.

"The focus for launch will be getting the player out," he said, "but then SmartGlass will come along."

Johnson said that the company has a lot of ideas about how they can expand the service on the Xbox One and that work they're already working on them internally.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/9/470...s-to-ios-android-today-and-xbox-one-at-launch

biggersmaller · Oct 30, 2013

DieH@rd said:

Yoshida: "GAF is mad about no DLNA/MP3 support. Please 'consider it' ok, guys?"

Dev: "I can flip the switch and include it on the launch firmware if you like, sir."

...

Yoshida: "You're fired."

NullPointer · Oct 30, 2013

Carl said:
But it's obviously not planned, so why would he say it?

Well if it wasn't obvious before it is extra obvious now.

So its a bullshit restriction to push an additional subscription service, and has nothing to do with launch priorities and timetables. Exactly how it appeared. The tweet changes nothing.

plasmawave · Oct 30, 2013

jony_m said:

I actually still have my minidiscs lol

fade_ · Oct 30, 2013

trustter said:
Very good point. We need to make sure that something will be done.

Most likely the best answer he could give at the time. Even worse than a non answer is a broken promise.

Quasar · Oct 30, 2013

MemoryHumanity said:
Bullshit
No DLNA support, either.

I'm certainly not wedded to DLNA. I would in fact preferred something better. But no server support at all has me reconsidering options.

As for mp3s. None of my audio is in that format anyway.

Papercuts · Oct 30, 2013

Always-honest said:
"Sure, just play something on your ipod"
Haha, no i'm sure the. XboxOne will have this feature. It wants to do everything, so why not this?

Major nelson said he's going to check into it, so we'll know one way or another soon.

EmptySpace · Oct 30, 2013

NullPointer said:
How about "that support is coming in a firmware update post launch"?

pretty sure he would've said that if he was sure it is true. seriously.

Tallshortman · Oct 30, 2013

Rebel Leader said:
Were those tailored?

Yes, there's no way DLNA would trend worldwide. The vast majority of PS3/360 users didn't even know the feature existed on their consoles.

msdstc · Oct 30, 2013

Arrogant Bastard said:
Cannot wait to use my USB headsets on the PS4 at launch. Oh wait.

How can sony fanboys pretend this isn't the same type of bs they were jumping all over ms for? I'm not an ms fan by any means, but damn this is as biased as it gets.

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