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Kurosaki Ichigo · Jan 30, 2008

Its all translated now...we nearly got top30 (damn you #23).

Mmm..repost for new page:

Famitsu numbers
Wii　79000
DSL　74000
PSP　61000
PS3　29000
PS2　11000
360　4200

1.[WII] Wii Fit　96000（1209000）
2.[PSP] Winning Eleven UE2008　70000
3.[PS2] Lucky Star　61000
4.[NDS] Mario & Sonic DS　54000（145000）
5.[WII] Wii Sports　28000（2692000）
6.[NDS] Mario Party DS　26000（1557000）
7.[PSP] Yggdra Union　22000
8.[NDS] Doraemon Baseball　22000（141000）
9.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2　15000（1584000）
10.[WII] Wii Play　14000（2153000）

Other new games
14.Tennis no Oujisama: Driving Smash! Side King DS　12000
...Exit DS　5500
...Drift Nights: Juiced 2 PS3　5000
...The Sims 2 Castaway DS　3000
...TOCA　750

Other games
11.Mario & Sonic Wii　13000（488000）
12.Mario Kart DS　13000（2809000）
13.Layton 2　13000（727000）
15.Mario Party 8　9400（1163000）
16.Super Mario Galaxy　9100（853000）
17.Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!)　8500（111000）
18.Layton 1　8500（821000）
19.Dragon Quest IV　8000（1158000）
20.Minna no Golf Portable 2　8000（210000）
21.Power Pocket Pro Kun 10 DS　7900（223000）
22.Animal Crossing DS　7700（4572000）
24.New Super Mario Bros　7500（5069000）
25.Household Diary　7100（410000）
26.Winning Eleven 2008 PS2　7100（612000）
27.Call Of Duty 4 PS3　7100（65000）
28.Final Fantasy IV　6300（565000）
29.Flash Focus　6100（772000）
30.More Brain Training　5900（4829000）

Cruceh · Jan 30, 2008

Kenka said:
Impressive. Most impressive numbers for Wii. No SMG nor M&S Wii saddens me though

m&s is 11, galaxy is 16

edit: no point now, it was translated already.

RJT · Jan 30, 2008

2.[PSP] Winning Eleven UE2008　70000

If WE PSP can do 70k on the first week, I hope WE Wii (which seems to be absolutely brilliant) does a few hundred thousand...

iidesuyo · Jan 30, 2008

Not too bad for the PSP.

As I said, when there's software, people will buy it.

GreenNight · Jan 30, 2008

iidesuyo said:
Not too bad for the PSP.

As I said, when there's software, people will buy it.

There has been software, and this is only one week. If it has legs, then I will jump on the boat.

Clever Pun · Jan 30, 2008

layton 1 over layton 2? crazy!

edit: actually, it looks like you might have flipped the names on those - can anyone confirm?

cvxfreak · Jan 30, 2008

Clever Pun said:
layton 1 over layton 2? crazy!

Is that right? I didn't know Layton 2 sold over 800K.

Frillen · Jan 30, 2008

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Famitsu numbers
Wii　79000
DSL　74000
PSP　61000
PS3　29000
PS2　11000
360　4200

1.[WII] Wii Fit　96000（1209000）
2.[PSP] Winning Eleven UE2008　70000
3.[PS2] Lucky Star　61000
4.[NDS] Mario & Sonic DS　54000（145000）
5.[WII] Wii Sports　28000（2692000）
6.[NDS] Mario Party DS　26000（1557000）
7.[PSP] Yggdra Union　22000
8.[NDS] Doraemon Baseball　22000（141000）
9.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2　15000（1584000）
10.[WII] Wii Play　14000（2153000）

Other new games
14.Tennis no Oujisama: Driving Smash! Side King DS　12000
...Exit DS　5500
...Drift Nights: Juiced 2 PS3　5000
...The Sims 2 Castaway DS　3000
...TOCA　750

Other games
11.Mario & Sonic Wii　13000（488000）
12.Mario Kart DS　13000（2809000）
13.Layton 1　727000）
15.Mario Party 8　9400（1163000）
16.Super Mario Galaxy　9100（853000）
17.Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!)　8500（111000）
18.Layton 2　8500（821000）
19.Dragon Quest IV　8000（1158000）
20.Minna no Golf Portable 2　8000（210000）
21.Power Pocket Pro Kun 10 DS　7900（223000）
22.Animal Crossing DS　7700（4572000）
24.New Super Mario Bros　7500（5069000）
25.Household Diary　7100（410000）
26.Winning Eleven 2008 PS2　7100（612000）
27.Call Of Duty 4 PS3　7100（65000）
28.Final Fantasy IV　6300（565000）
29.Flash Focus　6100（772000）
30.More Brain Training　5900（4829000）

Layton 1 error there

Kurosaki Ichigo · Jan 30, 2008

Clever Pun said:
layton 1 over layton 2? crazy!

edit: actually, it looks like you might have flipped the names on those - can anyone confirm?

Yes, once again the same error :lol

edit: but the Layton 2 number for the week is missing in the 2ch post...I'll look for it but it should be either 12000 or 13000

HK-47 · Jan 30, 2008

I think you mixed up Layton 1 and 2

schuelma · Jan 30, 2008

RJT said:
If WE PSP can do 70k on the first week, I hope WE Wii (which seems to be absolutely brilliant) does a few hundred thousand...

Not going to happen.

Soule · Jan 30, 2008

Galaxy... I fear it will eventually fall tragically short of 1M

hope I'm wrong.

frankie_baby · Jan 30, 2008

schuelma said:
Not going to happen.

think you might be right, got a feeling it'll bomb in japan though will be huge in europe

frankie_baby · Jan 30, 2008

Soule said:
Galaxy... I fear it will eventually fall tragically short of 1M hope I'm wrong.

only another 150k to do, it will reach it just depends how quick

Frillen · Jan 30, 2008

Layton 2 did 13,000

23. is most likely Star Ocean 1 or Rune Factory 2.

ksamedi · Jan 30, 2008

Soule said:
Galaxy... I fear it will eventually fall tragically short of 1M hope I'm wrong.

A million is pretty much garanteed for a game like Mario at this point.

There has been software, and this is only one week. If it has legs, then I will jump on the boat.

Really? I didn't notice that. Maybe it doesn't have the power yet to support all kinds of niche games like the DS has right now but I sure can see it as a secondary portable market for continuations of well known PS2 franchises. I fully expect Square to continue there support for the platform with some big names actually.

JoshuaJSlone · Jan 30, 2008

Defuser said:
How did WE 2007 PSP did last year?

Not nearly as well, it seems.

Week of 2006-12-11 LTD: 25,852
Week of 2006-12-25 LTD (From the yearly top 500, I presume): 62,742
Hasn't made a Famitsu chart since.

cvxfreak · Jan 30, 2008

Exact Famitsu numbers for 1/14 - 1/20:

1. Wii Fit - 108,459 / 1,113,626
2. Mario & Sonic at the Beijing Olympics (DS) - 90,793
3. Mario Party DS - 38,031 / 1,531,114
4. Wii Sports - 31,213 / 2,663,938
5. Wii Play - 19,328 / 2,139,084
6. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 17,573 / 1,568,985
7. Professor Layton 2 - 17,460 / 714,093
8. Mario & Sonic at the Beijing Olympics (Wii) - 17,241 / 474,331
9. Super Mario Galaxy - 16,643 / 843,961
10. Mario Party 8 - 15,318 / 1,153,648
11. Mario Kart DS - 13,664 / 2,796,326
12. Final Fantasy IV (DS) - 11,221 / 558,633
13. School Days LxH (PS2) - 10,819
14. Dragon Quest IV (DS) - 10,472 / 1,149,840
15. Professor Layton 1 - 10,182 / 812,945
16. New Super Mario Brothers - 10,146 / 5,061,337
17. Animal Crossing Wild World - 9,997 / 4,564,252
18. World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (PS2) - 9,625 / 604,655
19. 250 Mannin Kanji Tokoton Kanjinou 47,000 (IE Institute) - 8,958 / 153,902
20. Rune Factory 2 - 8,796 / 82,864
21. Minna no Golf Portable 2 - 7,979 / 202,273
22. Super Robot Taisen OG Gaiden - 7,840 / 265,018
23. Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare (PS3) - 7,787 / 58,156
24. Star Ocean First Departure - 7,716 / 183,118
25. Power Pro Kun Pocket 10 - 7,696 / 215,091
26. Yakuza 2 (PlayStation 2 The Best) - 7,489 / 102,822
27. Brain Age 2 - 7,163 / 4,822,868
28. Naruto Shippuuden Narutimate Ancel 2 - 6,774 / 176,393
29. My Household Diary - 6,630 / 402,888
30. DS Moji Zenshuu - 6,593 / 181,831

DSL 90,536
Wii 75,824
PSP 65,278
PS3 32,264
PS2 12,796
360 4,437
GBM 566
GBASP 243

Kenka · Jan 30, 2008

Thx Kuro and cvx. Your posts about sales are much appreciated.

Minsc · Jan 30, 2008

The saga of Wii Fit > Wii hardware continues for the last time. Well depending on just how understocked Brawl is that is.

If it's sold out without even being able to satisfy the pre-orders placed on it, and takes more than a week to be restocked (it's possible right?), then Wii Hardware might not get much of a bump at all with Brawl's release, and Wii Fit will might barely outsell Wii hardware.

Just imagine if Nintendo put out a limited edition Brawl Wii... I think they'd sell every last unit, but I guess just normal Wii's are giving them enough problems.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Jan 30, 2008

Yggdra Union on GBA did 17728 in its first week, and by the end of 2006 it was at 36172. Nice numbers for the PSP edition (22000).

marc^o^ · Jan 30, 2008

WiiFit is a beast. At this rate there will be more boards than PS3s in japanese households by March. I hope this means a lot of games are now being developed around it.

Wii sales should spike next week, and will likely remain above competition again in 2008 with Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Common Knowledge Training TV, Wii Music or Kirby coming. All these could be million sellers, or at least system sellers.

I don't even think Nintendo will need to cut its price this year. Which will lead them to even bigger profits. With such volumes sold, I think their production costs have drastically fallen already.

Laguna · Jan 30, 2008

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Yggdra Union on GBA did 17728 in its first week, and by the end of 2006 it was at 36172. Nice numbers for the PSP edition (22000).

Wow. This is just amazing! Especially considering its competition on PSP.

Jammy · Jan 30, 2008

Laguna said:
Wow. This is just amazing! Especially considering its competition on PSP.

What other competition on the PSP? It's not like a whole lot of games sell. :lol

charlequin · Jan 30, 2008

cvxfreak said:
I personally don't think the DS has much time to stay above the Wii consistently each week anymore. The handheld's sold over 20 Million, while the Wii has yet to hit its peek. I think at best we'll see the two switch off, or the Wii stay ahead.

Do we think that a price drop can be relevant for the DS at this point? The GBA still had room to drop below this, so theoretically it should be, but... maybe there just isn't anyone who wants a DS and isn't willing to pay the current price. Maybe we'll see one soon now that sales are slowing down?

ksamedi said:
Really? I didn't notice that. Maybe it doesn't have the power yet to support all kinds of niche games like the DS has right now but I sure can see it as a secondary portable market for continuations of well known PS2 franchises. I fully expect Square to continue there support for the platform with some big names actually.

Wasn't I saying this like three weeks ago? :lol

JavyOO7 · Jan 30, 2008

jarrod said:
Mario Kart Wii's going to outsell GT5 by over 2:1. Star Fox Wii is rumored to be outsourced (AM2 plz!).

That shit needs to be done in house. Let EAD Tokyo do it.

GreenNight · Jan 30, 2008

There doesnt need to be a price drop. They can just ship all the extra systems to America. Fucking DS shortages here big time.

justjohn · Jan 30, 2008

the mutherfucking calm before the storm

Vinci · Jan 30, 2008

charlequin said:
Do we think that a price drop can be relevant for the DS at this point? The GBA still had room to drop below this, so theoretically it should be, but... maybe there just isn't anyone who wants a DS and isn't willing to pay the current price. Maybe we'll see one soon now that sales are slowing down?

Why drop the price on something that's selling over 70k a week? Yes, that number isn't fantastic for the DS but it's not exactly like it's circling the drain.

Culex · Jan 30, 2008

I'm predicting 125k Wii hardware for week of SSBB release.

ccbfan · Jan 30, 2008

Jammy said:
What other competition on the PSP? It's not like a whole lot of games sell. :lol

He's being sarcastic.

Its Laguna, its like he had positive PSP comment radar so whenever there's a positive PSP comment he'll know to go and try his best to under mind it.

I wonder if he got it from D-Lo. D-Lo used to do that too until the whole Dracula X fiasco that got him banned. D-Lo probably sold it off to avoid getting banned. Laguna's a lot better at it though. He just comes in and stealth posts. Usually just one or two comments. D-Lo on the the other hand goes for pages and pages on how the PSP should never get any games and that all companies that make games for the PSP is stupid retards.

Rancid Mildew · Jan 30, 2008

I hope Brawl puts up tremendous numbers and brings in a big wave of core gamers for the Wii. It's probably Nintendo's most comprehensive and feature packed game ever.

Stumpokapow · Jan 30, 2008

Vinci said:
Why drop the price on something that's selling over 70k a week? Yes, that number isn't fantastic for the DS but it's not exactly like it's circling the drain.

If you drop the price on something by 10% and the sales increase more than 10%, you make more profits?

RJT · Jan 30, 2008

Stumpokapow said:
If you drop the price on something by 10% and the sales increase more than 10%, you make more profits?

Joke post, right? At least I hope so...

Vinnk · Jan 30, 2008

I taught 6 elementary school classes today. In the classes I taught the lesson "I have...."

One of the questions was "Do you have a DS?" out of about 180 students today, only 17 didn't have a DS. That blew my mind. It also made me think, who is left to buy DS systems? The kids already have them. Core gamers have them (as DQIV is showing).

I suppose the adult market could (and will) be increased but truthfully I expect to see hardware sales slow down and software sales to stay steady. And by go down I am still talking about fairly impressive numbers just not as nuts as it has been for the last two years.

PSP is the system that still has room to grow in Japan. If it does or not is another question but it's market is far from tapped.

Rancid Mildew · Jan 30, 2008

How extensive is the hype and demand for Smash Bros. in Japan?

charlequin · Jan 30, 2008

Stumpokapow said:
If you drop the price on something by 10% and the sales increase more than 10%, you make more profits?

Exactly.

It's also a question of what Nintendo's long-term strategy is. If they're planning to replace the DS in 2009, there's not much reason to drop the price now -- they can do that to firesale it once the replacement is out. But I think they'd be crazy to try to push out a successor before they're forced to. In that case, a price drop now could probably boost sales by a noticeable amount for a relatively long time, long enough for them to push another hardware revision (with built-in Flash memory for Virtual Handheld service, maybe?) onto the market.

donny2112 · Jan 30, 2008

cvxfreak said:
Exact Famitsu numbers for 1/14 - 1/20:

1. Wii Fit - 108,459 / 1,113,626
2. Mario & Sonic at the Beijing Olympics (DS) - 90,793
3. Mario Party DS - 38,031 / 1,531,114
4. Wii Sports - 31,213 / 2,663,938
5. Wii Play - 19,328 / 2,139,084
6. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 17,573 / 1,568,985
7. Professor Layton 2 - 17,460 / 714,093
8. Mario & Sonic at the Beijing Olympics (Wii) - 17,241 / 474,331
9. Super Mario Galaxy - 16,643 / 843,961
10. Mario Party 8 - 15,318 / 1,153,648
11. Mario Kart DS - 13,664 / 2,796,326
12. Final Fantasy IV (DS) - 11,221 / 558,633
13. School Days LxH (PS2) - 10,819
14. Dragon Quest IV (DS) - 10,472 / 1,149,840
15. Professor Layton 1 - 10,182 / 812,945
16. New Super Mario Brothers - 10,146 / 5,061,337
17. Animal Crossing Wild World - 9,997 / 4,564,252
18. World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (PS2) - 9,625 / 604,655
19. 250 Mannin Kanji Tokoton Kanjinou 47,000 (IE Institute) - 8,958 / 153,902
20. Rune Factory 2 - 8,796 / 82,864
21. Minna no Golf Portable 2 - 7,979 / 202,273
22. Super Robot Taisen OG Gaiden - 7,840 / 265,018
23. Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare (PS3) - 7,787 / 58,156
24. Star Ocean First Departure - 7,716 / 183,118
25. Power Pro Kun Pocket 10 - 7,696 / 215,091
26. Yakuza 2 (PlayStation 2 The Best) - 7,489 / 102,822
27. Brain Age 2 - 7,163 / 4,822,868
28. Naruto Shippuuden Narutimate Ancel 2 - 6,774 / 176,393
29. My Household Diary - 6,630 / 402,888
30. DS Moji Zenshuu - 6,593 / 181,831

DSL 90,536
Wii 75,824
PSP 65,278
PS3 32,264
PS2 12,796
360 4,437
GBM 566
GBASP 243

How did you... But the website... Ohhhh. You got the weekly Famitsu in your hands.

I'll add the new releases outside the Top 30 here, then.

*. PS2 Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights 3900 / NEW
*. WII Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity 3700 / NEW
*. WII Trauma Center: New Blood 3100 / NEW
*. 360 Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights 1400 / NEW
*. NDS From The Abyss 1200 / NEW

Recent Famitsu Top 30s

Dec 17-23, 2007
Dec 24, 2007-Jan 6, 2008
Jan 7-13, 2008

cvxfreak · Jan 30, 2008

Yeah, I've been meaning to begin posting directly from the magazine for awhile, but never got around to it until today.

BishopLamont · Jan 30, 2008

16.Super Mario Galaxy　9100（853000）
9. Super Mario Galaxy - 16,643 / 843,961

That's one big difference

Vinnk · Jan 30, 2008

Rancid Mildew said:
How extensive is the hype and demand for Smash Bros. in Japan?

As of one week ago (when I last checked) there were no in store displays. No Posters. Nothing. Only a hand drawn sign announcing that it was delayed a week.

However several of my students were talking about it and the local otaku have been yammering on about the game for months. Haven't been watching much TV, but I hear there are add out there.

There is hype but it's far more grassroots than the massive displays for games like DMC4.

Either way, I better get my copy tomorrow.

marc^o^ · Jan 30, 2008

Vinnk said:
One of the questions was "Do you have a DS?" out of about 180 students today, only 17 didn't have a DS. That blew my mind. It also made me think, who is left to buy DS systems?

Indeed. I wouldn't be surprised to hear about a hardware revision at E3.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Jan 30, 2008

cvxfreak is there any special top in Famitsu that updates a few titles with January numbers? I just saw an update in the geocities website for a quite a few titles. They have higher numbers than those that cover 2007 so it has to be counting some weeks of 2008.

I'll put them here anyway:

PSP
Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida SCE 86,908
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yakusoku Namdai 86,672
Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories Capcom 56,573
Patapon SCE 43,463

PS3
Shin Sengoku Musou 5 Koei 346,601
Winning Eleven 2008 Konami 259,037
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue SCE 186,508
Time Crisis 4 Namdai 44,141

360
Lost Odyssey Microsoft 99,061
Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka Namdai 91,274
Assassins Creed Ubisoft 51,823
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 35,048
The Idol Master (Platinum Collection) Namdai 22,734
Chikyuu Boueigun 3 (Platinum Collection) D3P 22,035
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom Microsoft 21,875
Virtua Fighter 5 Live Arena Sega 20,774
Winning Eleven 2008 Konami 17,530
Final Fantasy XI: Altana no Kamihei Square-Enix 15,379
Gundam Musou International Namdai 14,539
FIFA 08: World Class Soccer EA 4,424

PD: Just checked them a little and they should cover until 1/13.

Neo C. · Jan 30, 2008

Vinnk said:
One of the questions was "Do you have a DS?" out of about 180 students today, only 17 didn't have a DS. That blew my mind. It also made me think, who is left to buy DS systems? The kids already have them. Core gamers have them (as DQIV is showing).

I suppose the adult market could (and will) be increased but truthfully I expect to see hardware sales slow down and software sales to stay steady. And by go down I am still talking about fairly impressive numbers just not as nuts as it has been for the last two years.

it sounds like Nintendo needs to bring a redesign again. It should be superior to the Lite in every possible way, otherwise people aren't in the mood the replace their system.

birdchili · Jan 30, 2008

Rancid Mildew said:
I hope Brawl puts up tremendous numbers and brings in a big wave of core gamers for the Wii. It's probably Nintendo's most comprehensive and feature packed game ever.

does it really have the draw to attract non-gamecube owners? it's almost too fanservice for its own good.

ziran · Jan 30, 2008

marc^o^ said:
WiiFit is a beast. At this rate there will be more boards than PS3s in japanese households by March. I hope this means a lot of games are now being developed around it.

Wii sales should spike next week, and will likely remain above competition again in 2008 with Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Common Knowledge Training TV, Wii Music or Kirby coming. All these could be million sellers, or at least system sellers.

I don't even think Nintendo will need to cut its price this year. Which will lead them to even bigger profits. With such volumes sold, I think their production costs have drastically fallen already.

Yep, as Reggie said, 'Wii Fit, is it'

I've had a quick go on the Japanese version and it's great, really looking forward to getting it in English. And I agree with the cumulative effect of Nintendo's Wii titles becoming consistent system sellers. They're building up an amazingly strong library in this regard, just as they did with DS.

Vinci · Jan 30, 2008

Stumpokapow said:
If you drop the price on something by 10% and the sales increase more than 10%, you make more profits?

And if the drop in the sales is just a blip on the radar that's going to be remedied by a future product release or the changing of the tides? I see what you're saying, I'm just not sure it's necessary to worry about dropping the price quite yet.

birdchili · Jan 30, 2008

Stumpokapow said:
If you drop the price on something by 10% and the sales increase more than 10%, you make more profits?

that's not true at all though.

if widgets cost 90 cents to make and you sell them for a dollar, you make 10 cents per widget. if you drop the price to 90 cents you're not going to make up for it in quantity no matter how many more you sell.

i'm sure the margins on the ds are far better than that right now, but generally, you'd have to see more than an x% increase in sales to offset an x% reduction in price.

Cheesemeister · Jan 30, 2008

Isn't this issue #1000 of Famitsu?

test_account · Jan 30, 2008

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Patapon SCE 43,463

Time Crisis 4 Namdai 44,141

These games really sold that much? I thought Patapon only did like 10k or so the first week? And did TC4 chart at all? Also nice to see Lost Oddesey at almost 100k

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