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Bicycle age

WedgeX

Banned
After several months of no biking at all due to this damned pinched nerve, my physical therapist gave me the go ahead to try and resume normal activities.

10 minutes on my bike and I was pain free. I doubt that I'll get to my goal of biking 150 miles across Michigan five weeks from now but damn it felt good.
 

HTupolev

Member
Well that doesn't sound like fun. Why even cycle? :p
Because you could be riding around a paved oval in heavy traffic on a fixie instead!

Speaking of which, I think I might have actually won a point-a-lap race today. It was an 8 lap race, and the first person across the line each lap gets 1 point... except for the final lap, where the first person gets 3 points, second person gets 2, third gets 1.
With just the final two laps to go, I'd spent much of the race deep in the field, staying sort of rested but most certainly gathering zero points. But, I was pretty close to the front at this moment, when suddenly someone bolted. I wanted to get in on the points action, so I bolted after him. On the backstretch I passed the guy, and managed to grab the 1 point at the end of that lap. Then I looked back, to find... the field had just plain not reacted quickly to us, and was WAY behind. So I just kept going. Being draftless for over 600m meant that they got pretty close by the finish line, but they didn't quite catch me, so I got the 3, for a total of four points. And since track racing uses the final lap as a tiebreaker, someone else would have had to have gotten a whopping five points to beat me... not likely in such a short point-a-lap race where the field was bunched up for most of the event!

The field is a pretty silly entity in track racing. On the one hand, it's REALLY EASY for a pack to catch a single person, particularly when that single guy isn't actually stronger than the people at the front of the pack. But on the other, the people towards the front often don't want to initiate the chase, because they'll be sacrificing themselves in the act of catching the leader (once you peel off from - or cannot sustain - a strong pull at the head of a dense pack, it's pretty difficult to stay anywhere near the front). I guess that's what teams are for... and Cat 4 isn't very heavily teamified. Teams exist, but they're usually not that structured.
 
I hate hills because I weigh about 100kg. The upside is that as my body fat slowly burns away, leg muscles remain where they are and thus my sprinting power goes up by itself. Never going to be a climber though.
 

Zushin

Member
Hi guys, dunno if this is an appropriate place to ask this but here goes.

So a bit about me, I've struggled with weight for ever, I had got down to 95kg after being 200+. Unfortunately I've stacked it back on after my Dad's suicide and am about 160kg now.

I want to fix this! So I've been looking at different ways to exercise that I might enjoy so I'll stick at it. Thus getting a bike looks like a good option. I havent ridden since I was a kid so I'm a novice.

I'd be riding on the bike track and a lovely sealed off road trail in my town. So a comfortable bike for these conditions that could bear my weight is what I'm after. Willing to spend about $1000 (Australian Dollars)

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks :)
 
I'm thinking you almost certainly want a steel framed bike but the key will be the wheels, will definitely want some heavier / stronger ones as they'll keep getting knocked out of true otherwise and could eventually buckle completely.

Can't really advise on specifics, but your local bike shop should almost certainly be able to point you in the right direction.
 

Teggy

Member
Is a fixed gear bike like my old Schwinn where pushing the pedals backwards is how you break?

I watched this durianrider video where he was recommending against using a fixed gear bike for commuting and it was just filled with videos of people wiping out in traffic.
 
Yeah, fixies are where you can't freewheel. If you stop pedalling, you stop the wheel moving.

Single speed a much safer (less fashionable) option.
 
As someone who has dabbled in fixies, I can say that at first it takes a lot of brainpower to remember you can't freewheel. Even so there's a moment every time where I try to coast and get jolted by the pedals.

As far as braking goes, backward pedal pressure is a a slow progress unless you're a skidding maniac. Actual brakes are pretty much a requirement.

The positive side is that you learn to pedal all the time. It makes you go faster even if you don't go any harder, because you put in at least a little power all the time.

edit: imo the biggest dangers for a beginner are kerbs and other places where you'd normally lift the front wheel, or otherwise change the center of balance. The movements are not the same on a fixie.
 
I also read a few accounts of people saying their pedal dominance was improved through riding a fixed gear.

Kind of want to save up for a fixie, but I also was thinking about buying a mountain bike. Though a lot of the trails near me are doable with no shocks so it's tempting to just convert my current steel (accommodates 47mm tires) to be more trail oriented and swap the parts over to Ti (been a dream for a long)

Someone give me 10K so I can do this
 

HTupolev

Member
Is a fixed gear bike like my old Schwinn where pushing the pedals backwards is how you break?
Maybe, but also maybe not. Many single-speed bikes use coaster brakes, where you can freewheel, but where trying to force the pedals backwards locks up the rear hub.
 

robox

Member
Is a fixed gear bike like my old Schwinn where pushing the pedals backwards is how you break?

that' doesn't slow you down fast enough

1. do sweet skidzzzz
2. skateboard style, where you use your shoe as a brake pad against the rear tire
3. don't stop. just swerve around whatever it is
 

Mascot

Member
Bailed on making a six-hour round trip to the Goodwood Festival of Speed because...

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...so went for a ride instead. Did twenty miles around the Welsh cycle route exploring villages in the vicinity...

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...interspersed with seventeen proper miles through thick mud. 37 miles is a lot for me on a mountain bike (and my gammy knee was giving me constant jip), and when I got back my legs properly hurt. Not that nice wobbly ache you get after a good ride to remind you that you earned that cold beer, but real pain.

Still, managed a good deed due to fortunate timing. This dog...

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...was just about to eat this tennis-ball sized baby rabbit that had wandered into the lane and was too small to hop back up into the hedge...

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...but I managed to intercept the dog just in time and keep it at bay until the bunny eventually managed to scrabble away.

Phew!
 

Teggy

Member
...but I managed to intercept the dog just in time and keep it at bay until the bunny eventually managed to scrabble away.

That might be bunny Hitler, what have you done! Never mess with the timeline!

Maybe, but also maybe not. Many single-speed bikes use coaster brakes, where you can freewheel, but where trying to force the pedals backwards locks up the rear hub.

It's funny, it's so long ago I can't remember. I just remember jamming back on the pedals to break, but I don't remember if I had to pedal at all times. That does seem like a strange idea, so maybe not.
 

HTupolev

Member
It's funny, it's so long ago I can't remember. I just remember jamming back on the pedals to break, but I don't remember if I had to pedal at all times. That does seem like a strange idea, so maybe not.
If you "jammed back" and the wheel tightened up, then it was a coaster brake. Slowing down on a fixie by reverse pedal pressure is a gummy experience.
But it's a common point of confusion; when it's been a long time, coaster brake bikes are often remembered as fixies.

For safety reasons, there aren't a whole lot of kid's fixies. Unless you're counting the extremely low-geared trikes and such that sometimes exist for small children, where the cranks are directly attached to the axle of a small wheel; the gearing is so low that backwards pedal pressure is easy to apply, and it's impossible to reach decent speeds on those anyway even if you can pedal at like 200rpm.
 
To the roadies: what do you guys do for regular bicycle maintenance? How often?
I have an almost-full toolkit so I can do almost everything. I do a full cleaning once a month in the winter months and at the end of summer to get ready for winter.

In between I do small cleanings once a week depending on how rainy it is.

In the uk at the moment and you bikers are bonkers. This weather, holy shit. Though the drivers are equally crazy. There are so many roads where I see everyone driving wherever they want because hey, why the hell not.
 

ACE 1991

Member
So pumped for the ride by buddy and I are doing tomorrow! Starting from just east of Philly for a 70 mile ride to the Jersey shore, should be a great time. Shoutout to TarpitCarnivore for help with the route. We were going to bike from my apartment northwest of the city, but looking at the route we would have to take would mean going through some seriously bad neighborhoods in Philly, and I would like to continue owning my bike ;)
 

ACE 1991

Member
Are the parts near Temple still bad bad? A coffee shop I like is in Kensington which I noticed is not very far from the corner of Temple's campus.

It depends. You mention Kensington, which has some of the highest crime blocks in the city. The problem is that we would have to cut across north Philly, a lot of which is seriously dicey. My girlfriend is going to drop us off at the Tacony-Palmyra bridge and we're just going to start from there.
 

Zushin

Member
Hi guys, dunno if this is an appropriate place to ask this but here goes.

So a bit about me, I've struggled with weight for ever, I had got down to 95kg after being 200+. Unfortunately I've stacked it back on after my Dad's suicide and am about 160kg now.

I want to fix this! So I've been looking at different ways to exercise that I might enjoy so I'll stick at it. Thus getting a bike looks like a good option. I havent ridden since I was a kid so I'm a novice.

I'd be riding on the bike track and a lovely sealed off road trail in my town. So a comfortable bike for these conditions that could bear my weight is what I'm after. Willing to spend about $1000 (Australian Dollars)

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks :)

Just an update on the above, went to another bike shop and they recommended a Specialised Crosstrail with hand made wheels. So that looks like that'll do after tax. Looking forward to getting into it!
 

ngower

Member
Stupid bike question: I changed my saddle yesterday and measured seat tip to stem and top tube to seat to make sure I had roughly the same positioning. Problem was, when I did a quick ride after work I had a bit of shoulder discomfort and lower back stiffness. I also felt myself sorta sliding towards the front of the seat as the ride went on. My seat is about as far forward as it can get so I wonder if maybe it's the aggressive positioning of the seat post? Or is this just normal getting accustomed to a new saddle? I'll preface that I'm riding about 50 hours a week so nothing too crazy, but I didn't really have these issues before changing the saddle and just wanna figure out what's going on without having to go to a bike shop and pay for a fitting.
 

frontieruk

Member
Based on what I've seen walking around Oxford, fully 25% of bikes in the UK are abandoned, aren't they.

It's because their owners have been sent back to where they came from... /s

It's mainly as generally the wheels get nicked of the bike damaged beyond repair, or the bikes were nicked then abandoned... generally if they are abandoned they've been involved in some sort of crime.
 
Stupid bike question: I changed my saddle yesterday and measured seat tip to stem and top tube to seat to make sure I had roughly the same positioning. Problem was, when I did a quick ride after work I had a bit of shoulder discomfort and lower back stiffness. I also felt myself sorta sliding towards the front of the seat as the ride went on. My seat is about as far forward as it can get so I wonder if maybe it's the aggressive positioning of the seat post? Or is this just normal getting accustomed to a new saddle? I'll preface that I'm riding about 50 hours a week so nothing too crazy, but I didn't really have these issues before changing the saddle and just wanna figure out what's going on without having to go to a bike shop and pay for a fitting.

Seat angle. If you're feeling like you're sliding forward angle the nose up a little at a time.
 
It's because their owners have been sent back to where they came from... /s

It's mainly as generally the wheels get nicked of the bike damaged beyond repair, or the bikes were nicked then abandoned... generally if they are abandoned they've been involved in some sort of crime.
Lol brexit right? Man it's odd being here for this.

But seeing as how everyone graduated this month, you're probably half right.

But yeah, some of them have fully tacoed tires, or missing tires, it chains that wouldn't move if you were the hulk.
 

ACE 1991

Member
I'm BEAT! Ride to the shore from Philly was a great time, really amazing roads for like 95% of the trip. Glad I had my hardcore bike touring bud with me for navigational purposes. He biked from Philadelphia to Texas a few years ago, which is a hell of a feat. 72 miles in total... I need to bang out a century soon! TarpitCarnivore, care to join me? :p
 

frontieruk

Member
Lol brexit right? Man it's odd being here for this.

But seeing as how everyone graduated this month, you're probably half right.

But yeah, some of them have fully tacoed tires, or missing tires, it chains that wouldn't move if you were the hulk.

It's been like that since I was a kid, if you could be bothered you'd be able to find the missing tyres on lampposts as they play hoopla with them, its sad but under the thin veneer of civilisation we're still just a nation of cavemen. :(
 

Mascot

Member
Nice little 18-mile bimble through the woods today until the knee went pop.

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Cut the ride short and came home through the castle where I met Toby, the one-winged owl. Seen anything cuter this week?

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Climbing is 100% personal preference. I think some studies were done on efficiency with seated climbing being more efficient, however that doesn't mean it is the correct way for YOU to ride. I personally follow the tried and true method: stay seated, relax your breathing and spin. What spin is will be up to you, but I try to stay in the 70-80RPM range. Anything above that I feel like I'm having energy loss. If the climb is shorter and I'm feeling it I'll sprint up it and this means I have to stand. You really need to try both and see which works best for you, but not everyone can be Contador and stand for an extended climb.

Now that all said, when it comes to climbing speed the only thing that will work is doing it more. Find a hill with some decent climb to it and hit it multiple times. Ride up, coast down, catch your breath and do it again. Alternative to this would be planning out a route that is rolling hills of sorts. Something where you may hit a hill or series of hills 2 or 3 times through out it.

Do this once a week, no more. You can ride a route with rollers multiple times, but I wouldn't plan to hit a truly hill oriented course multiple times in a week.

indeed. another factor that's overlooked i think, at least it was for me, is your mental preparation/awareness before hill/mountain climb and what strategy you're going to use. obviously you're not going to be aware of the all the intricacies of every single hill you're climbing, but having some general guidelines that can help you on the way up.

make sure you're breathing is ok and you've got a couple of good deep breathes in before your start your way up. especially if it's gonna take more than a couple of minutes. you don't want to be entering your climb already panting like a dog. (obviously this changes if you're in a race or if you're specifically training this type of climb)

have a quick glance at your HR - sky high for your standards? probably not best to attack at beginning or you risk blowing up in short order.

what type of hill? short/steep? long/steady? pick a cadence/style that best suits you. personally, for the short/steep ones i'll generally go way above my FTP and i'll be spinning above 100. but these are less than a a minute or two. for longer/steadier climbs, i try to stay around 85-90 with variations every once in a while. and try to stay under your FTP or if you don't have a power meter you probably want to be at 7-8 out of 10 on perceived exertion.

i was terrible at hills when i first started riding and dreaded any ride with them. which made riding hard since I live right smack in middle of Texas hill country. but you gotta learn to love them, and don't be afraid to be slow.
 

ngower

Member
Ordered some Schwalbe Marathon Plus today. Been training for a small tour on the stock Surly cyclocross tires that came with my Cross Check. This ought to speed me up ever-so-slightly.

Curious if anyone here has done some ultralight touring/small 3-5 day trips from scratch, and if there are any pro-tips to help get me up to doing 40-80mi a day (other than just ride).
 
Yes, earlier this month I went from Vancouver BC to Vancouver WA on a salsa vaya. I had two panniers for my stuff and strapped my tent to my rack. I prepared by riding to and from work every day (something I do anyway) and that was about it. I managed to average about 100 miles a day with no real problems that I didn't cause myself. You should be fine, especially if you pace yourself and keep in mind adequate rests.
 

ngower

Member
Yes, earlier this month I went from Vancouver BC to Vancouver WA on a salsa vaya. I had two panniers for my stuff and strapped my tent to my rack. I prepared by riding to and from work every day (something I do anyway) and that was about it. I managed to average about 100 miles a day with no real problems that I didn't cause myself. You should be fine, especially if you pace yourself and keep in mind adequate rests.

I'm conservatively planning for 50 miles a day, which over the course of 6-8 riding hours per day should be fairly easy.

Unfortunately I can't ride my bike to work. Despite the fact that I could very easily make the funk subside, my boss won't let me because this job is all about image and I think she has this perception I'll come in drenched in sweat and muddy and just throw my work clothes over top. But I'm bringing my bike with me and leaving straight from work to a trail.

I put in 40 miles this past week and could easily get 60-75 per week if I stick to a schedule. Aiming to be at 100 a week within a week or two, and hopefully I can get at least a half-century (if not a century) ride or two in before the ride itself (mid-August).
 

HTupolev

Member
I'm looking at my "touring" bike right now, and I'm definitely thinking it could use a front rack. As-is, it should make for a good unintentional wheelie machine. D:

SUGINO MIGHTY TOUR crankset is shiny. Yay road triples. :D

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While I was at the LBS today, someone brought in a Magna for a shifter replacement.

There was a sticker on the seat tube advertising that the seat tube was hi-ten.

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My Yorkshire Dales 300 report... Well that didn't go well at all.

Day One: We'd set a relatively easy target pace but sadly my riding partner was having real problems with his knees and then later dehydration so we didn't end up getting anywhere near it. That basically resulted in us having to take on massive amounts of liquid at each stop, and later culminated in arriving too late to get any proper food at the last pub we got to. My mood wasn't greatly helped by the fact that the new undershorts I was using were giving basically no airflow to my bits and it was all getting a bit sore and nasty down there. At somewhere after midnight he and a couple of others who were with us decided that they weren't going to make it so the plan was to bivi then bail. I reckoned if I really pushed I could probably make it... but I'd sleep for safety's sake. Of course, I never manage to sleep on these things, so day two began with me feeling worse than if I'd stayed awake and knowing that we'd done less than half the distance.

Day Two: I've never had any experience of getting dressed in a swarm of midges... and it's not one I'd like to repeat. We'd picked a bivi spot that we knew would be risky for them, but we had no idea just how bad it would be. By the time I left my legs looked like someone had tried to set up a dot to dot picture with a red marker. Horrible.

I set out on my own and I was making OK progress until I got to the first major hills, when I realised that my crotch rot from the first day had basically become terminal. Climbs now became a matter of desperately trying to get the right position on the saddle to reduce the pain, which really wasn't easy given how rocky most of them were. I think I was pretty much stopping every hour to apply chamois cream too. Feeling pretty frazzled it also look me a long ass time to get down a completely unridable (for me) crazy shale / boulder crevice too, will try and get some pics of it... was batshit, I wouldn't even want to hike down it.

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(Is apparently 30% in places, and called Friarfold Hush)

I eventually got a bit of a second wind and started making much faster progress, especially on the flats and the downs. ...and then I smushed myself and my bike to pieces. There was a cobbled section next to a river after a long road section which went next to a camping / caravan site. Not entirely sure if where I ended up was actually the trail (seemed more like a footpath, but the GPS route was pretty shitty at points so it was hard to tell) but what I do know is that at some point my front wheel got trapped between two roots and I ended up over the bars and breaking my fall with my arms.

I knew it had been a big one, so I tried to walk it off as best I could which is when I noticed that my arm was bleeding fairly heavily. After dropping down to the river to wash it off, I noticed I now had a rather large hole in my elbow. Initially I tried to put a large plaster on it, but the blood took it straight off, so I had to hold a pad on there for a while to get some initial clotting going, before swapping it to a bandage / pad combination and strapping it up. As an aside, a walker passed by at this point and helpfully asked me if I'd "had a little fall"... "No love, my elbow pisses blood as a party piece".

Feeling somewhat mashed up I got back on the bike but noticed that I was really struggling to descend (every small hit was hurting my elbow quite badly), this coupled with not being able to climb properly because of crotch rot was seeing my average speed drop from where I could fairly easily get back before 7pm, to where I didn't have a chance in hell. Missus was driving me back too (5 hours), and with her having work the next day finishing much after 7pm wouldn't have been an option anyway. So, around 240km in I decided it was time to bail. Ironically, the shitty route the Garmin picked for me (was in mountain biking mode) wasn't any easier than anything I'd been doing over the last hours (especially as it was now hammering down with rain). I really need to look at the best settings for bail routes.

So yeah, not a great weekend for me in all. Will decide if I need the hospital later (right now I'm ignoring the fact I may have damaged the bone by hitting up max ibuprofen) and I've got to properly analyze the bike damage, but on first glance I'd cracked my handlebars, sheared off part of my light clamp and damaged my exposure diablo (when I turned it on, it just kept going through different modes on the back, before eventually flashing and turning off never to return).

Bleh. :(

Fake Edit - After finishing the stupid bail route, I'd done 285km total.

Oh, and on the ride in general, there were some amazing descents, and some utterly incredible sights... but at always on these things, there were bits I hated more than words can describe. Right now I'm really not sure if I'd return. I know I could have finished the ride fairly easily with at a decent pace on day one, so I don't feel like it's something I'd need to prove to myself.

TLDR: Day One: Slow riding buddy on first day, no proper food, no proper sleep. Day Two: Eaten by midges, crotch rot, good speed, massive crash, mashed up rider, tried my best, bailed (to a route just as hard).
 

Mascot

Member
My Yorkshire Dales 300 report... Well that didn't go well at all.
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TLDR: Day One: Slow riding buddy on first day, no proper food, no proper sleep. Day Two: Eaten by midges, crotch rot, good speed, massive crash, mashed up rider, tried my best, bailed (to a route just as hard).

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Man, I feel you on most of that. But minus the off-road bits, of course.

Also I'm in Oxford atm and I completely understand why you hate riding on the roads: the busses/taxies/pedestrians on the pavement are all insane. Like, holy fuck. I'd ride off-road all the time as well if I had to put up with this amount of road traffic.

And I'm going to London tomorrow, I hear that's going to be worse.
 
The best stuff I've used came from JustRidingAlong.

http://www.justridingalong.com/copter-tape.html

Make sure you get the 3M stuff. It's incomparable to a lot of the shit that's sold as "helicopter tape".

Edit - Oh, fuck, I forgot to say... was cycling down a road about 10am on the second day and some cunt in a Tesco van (coming my way) decided to keep edging towards my side of the road (basically trying to force me into the hedge). So I pulled more onto his side, stopped and gave him the aardvark.

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Stupid fucker. I'm no shy retiring little roadie.
 
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