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Nvidia VP is asked question, gives accurate answer

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Nocturno999

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Bennett Ring said:
PCPP: In the past, when a new console launched, the graphics were on par, if not even better, than a reasonably well-specced PC of the time. Yet at this year’s E3, we noticed that the Xbox One and PS4 demos didn’t look as good as the earlier PC demos of the same games. Do you think the lead that consoles had in the past at launch day is over?
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Tony Tamasi said:
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The second factor is that everything is limited by power these days. If you want to go faster, you need a more efficient design or a bigger power supply. The laws of physics dictate that the amount of performance you’re going to get from graphics is a function of the efficiency of the architecture, and how much power budget you’re willing to give it. The most efficient architectures are from NVIDIA and AMD, and you’re not going to get anything that is significantly more power efficient in a console, as it’s using the same core technology. Yet the consoles have power budgets of only 200 or 300 Watts, so they can put them in the living room, using small fans for cooling, yet run quietly and cool. And that’s always going to be less capable than a PC, where we spend 250W just on the GPU. There’s no way a 200W Xbox is going to be beat a 1000W PC.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/09/26/n...00-watt-xbox-is-going-to-beat-a-1000-watt-pc/

“The consoles have power budgets of only 200 or 300 Watts, so they can put them in the living room, using small fans for cooling, yet run quietly and cool,” Tamasi said.
“And that’s always going to be less capable than a PC, where we spend 250W just on the GPU. There’s no way a 200W Xbox is going to be beat a 1000W PC.”
 
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polyh3dron

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Bunta

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Thanks for the obvious, Nvidia.

Edit: Just read about it being an answer from an interview, nothing really wrong with that.
 
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Dario ff

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Interview. They were asked this:
PCPP: In the past, when a new console launched, the graphics were on par, if not even better, than a reasonably well-specced PC of the time. Yet at this year’s E3, we noticed that the Xbox One and PS4 demos didn’t look as good as the earlier PC demos of the same games. Do you think the lead that consoles had in the past at launch day is over?
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He answered. He didn't come out and made an official statement about it to state the obvious.

But this is gonna be a repeat of the other thread probably regardless. (Which was also an interview)
 
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Kadey

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The butthurt is really strong with Nvidia lately. Desperately trying to get everyone's attention away from next-gen consoles.
 
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March of the Crabs

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Lately Nvidia strikes me as a company full of people staring angrily at their computer screens while spouting salty PR quotes about everything in tech that is not related to Nvidia.
 
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Sutton Dagger

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Before everyone starts going crazy, this was an interview with PC gamer about Nvidias partnership with SteamOS, and it looks like he was asked about the console space. His reponse in context is reasonable and correct.

“The consoles have power budgets of only 200 or 300 Watts, so they can put them in the living room, using small fans for cooling, yet run quietly and cool,” Tamasi said. “And that’s always going to be less capable than a PC, where we spend 250W just on the GPU. There’s no way a 200W Xbox is going to be beat a 1000W PC.”


Edit: the embarrassing comments have already started, read the damn interview before crying foul people.
 
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Krakn3Dfx

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Nvidia, stop. I mean,I love you, but just...

Just stop. This kind of thing only makes you look more defensive than you have any reason to be.
 
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Leb

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This was already posted. There were many references to salt, "water is wet", etc and very little reading of the actual article, in which one could discover that the "quote" is actually from an interview, in which the interviewee is answering a direct question.
 
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def sim

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Dario ff said:
Interview. They were asked this:


He answered. He didn't come out and made an official statement about it to state the obvious.

But this is gonna be a repeat of the other thread probably regardless. (Which was also an interview)
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You're new here! One thing you're going to have to accept real quick is that very few people read anything in the OP, click on the source, much less check a different piece in the source.

It's a total bummer.
 
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Tablo

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BurnOutBrighter said:
So it's watts now? Are they running out of things to compare power levels against?
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Oh come on now, thermals and power draw are important factors in console design, PCs don't need to care nearly as much and as such can afford more raw horsepower, higher frequencies, overclocking, we can deal with copious amounts of heat and power use with huge cases, fans, watercooling, bigger PSUs.

His point stands valid, he's not skewing any facts here.
 
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nhlducks35

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Dario ff said:
Interview. They were asked this:


He answered. He didn't come out and made an official statement about it to state the obvious.

But this is gonna be a repeat of the other thread probably regardless. (Which was also an interview)
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Sutton Dagger said:
Before everyone starts going crazy, this was an interview with PC gamer about Nvidias partnership with SteamOS, and it looks like he was asked about the console space. His reponse in context is reasonable and correct.

“The consoles have power budgets of only 200 or 300 Watts, so they can put them in the living room, using small fans for cooling, yet run quietly and cool,” Tamasi said. “And that’s always going to be less capable than a PC, where we spend 250W just on the GPU. There’s no way a 200W Xbox is going to be beat a 1000W PC.”


Edit: the embarrassing comments have already started, read the damn interview before crying foul people.
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Crisco said:
Totally reasonable response/statement then. Nothing to see here folks.
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Too late, everyone is gonna see the title and base their post on that
 
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Soulflarz

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friedeggs said:
You're new here! One thing you're going to have to accept real quick is that very few people read anything in the OP, click on the source, much less check a different piece in the source.

It's a total bummer.
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But those of us who do can contribute to a lovely discussion for this nexus of gamers!



I swear i feel like we just made an intentionally exaggerated ad :p
 
Lucent

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Kadey said:
The butthurt is really strong with Nvidia lately. Desperately trying to get everyone's attention away from next-gen consoles.
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Really. This is just stupid. Acting as if console owners don't know this. What he needs to realize is with consoles you pay once and you're done. There's no upgrading and the games will be fine. If I wanted a gaming PC, I'd save and make one.
 
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CaptainGyro

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Krakn3Dfx said:
Nvidia, stop. I mean,I love you, but just...

Just stop. This kind of thing only makes you look more defensive than you have any reason to be.
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No it really doesn't. It just makes them look like they are going in detail in response to questions asked in interviews
 
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shinobi602

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Sutton Dagger said:
Before everyone starts going crazy, this was an interview with PC gamer about Nvidias partnership with SteamOS, and it looks like he was asked about the console space. His reponse in context is reasonable and correct.

“The consoles have power budgets of only 200 or 300 Watts, so they can put them in the living room, using small fans for cooling, yet run quietly and cool,” Tamasi said. “And that’s always going to be less capable than a PC, where we spend 250W just on the GPU. There’s no way a 200W Xbox is going to be beat a 1000W PC.”


Edit: the embarrassing comments have already started, read the damn interview before crying foul people.
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His answer was still ridiculous.
 
Brofist

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Yay another unreadable topic full of knee jerk salt comments and awkwardly out of place banderas gifs. Neogamefaq indeed.
 
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