Do you want everyone you disagree with banned everywhere?
i want racists banned everywhere, yes
Do you want everyone you disagree with banned everywhere?
#Spyder_MonkeyWasRightMy boy Spyder_Monkey need an apology
Don't hide behind free speechI'm sticking up free for speech. Condemn anyone you want but wanting people banned for their views isn't something I condone. Refute them, don't ask for their heads on platters.
There are certainly lots of things that the western mainstream media, or "old media" as certain YouTube celebrities might take to calling it, could be legitimately criticized for when it comes to fulfilling their duties to the public and providing an effective check on institutional power, but one thing that the well-known respectable outlets unquestionably do very well is instill in their workforces a proper sense of journalistic responsibility. That means understanding the importance of fact-checking, confirming information with multiple sources, never taking one biased source's word at face value, understanding the difference between an allegation and a factual statement or the difference between a legally actionable statement and an opinion -- broadly speaking, all the skills that constitute proper journalistic investigation and reporting. Most reporters for the respectable outlets have gone to journalism school specifically to learn these crucial ideas, because they're the bare minimum knowledge required to be considered a professional journalist.
What we're seeing now unfortunately with the YouTube generation is the rise of a group of people who are sheltered, naive, and awfully self-absorbed, and think that just because they have a webcam and a YouTube account and an unshakable sense of self-certainty bordering on narcissism, that they've been imbued with the same ability to reveal malfeasance and expose unethical actions by institutions that the mainstream media enjoys. Which is fine to an extent, the democratization of media away from entrenched strongholds of power is actually a positive step overall; the problem is these simpletons think that they are entitled to the same credibility, access, and reputation that the mainstream media once enjoyed as a check on institutional power, but without having to go through any of the annoying busywork of learning things like ethics and responsibility.
The mainstream media had to put in the work to get to where it did and it took close to a century to develop those standards. Today's journalism students get it hammered into their heads over and over how fact checking and sourcing works, how to follow up leads, how to smell when a source might be feeding you fake info -- in other words how to do their fucking job. But a YouTube vlogger writes an email, gets a screenshot back, edits it into an insufferably long and self-aggrandizing first-person rant making himself the most important piece of the story, and deigns to call that "journalism", and I'm supposed to do anything but laugh?
Please. This isn't "old media" vs. "new media." This isn't "titans of dying industry" vs. "fresh new bold faces of an evolving medium." This is "are you diligent and responsible enough to know when you're being fed bullshit by someone who makes YouTube videos with the n-word in the title and do you how to spend 30 seconds to properly research YouTube's own statements about how view counts work to understand if the data in front of you even makes sense" vs. "are you such a self-absorbed patsy that you'll take a single screenshot from such a person at face value and make it the basis of a whiny rant that feeds into your own nonsense persecution complex without bothering to do any critical thinking about it because the only thing you actually care about isn't issues of civil injustice, social inequities or the things that real journalists care about, but simply protecting your own livelihood of making webcam videos and calling it important?"
Wait... do my taxes go to Twitter?I'm sticking up free for speech. Condemn anyone you want but wanting people banned for their views isn't something I condone. Refute them, don't ask for their heads on platters.
Banned is the least of the things I want for them. Punching has been a great start.Yeah saying free speech was dumb of me. I still think it's better to engage and refute those ideas than calling for them to be banned.
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I expect a All Lives Matter follow up
I'm sticking up free for speech. Condemn anyone you want but wanting people banned for their views isn't something I condone. Refute them, don't ask for their heads on platters.
#Spyder_MonkeyWasRight
Have me backing a Murdoch paper all night.
SMDH, Ethan.
Change your avatar back AT ONCE.
No. If you want to have a discussion with those people head over to their own terrible forums.Yeah saying free speech was dumb of me. I still think it's better to engage and refute those ideas than calling for them to be banned.
You have no idea how free speech works.
Can I claim your doggo avatar now?"This is who we're dealing with, folks"
*pulls down screen*
... Is there a tl;dr available so I don't have to go through 15 pages of messages? wtf is going on?
I associate people like you with racists. I wouldn't want to deal with racists or violent people like you.Wait... do my taxes go to Twitter?
Banned is the least of the things I want for them. Punching has been a great start.
When was the exact moment a certain part of the country decided Free Speech = 'I wanna say whatever I want without ever getting criticized'
... Is there a tl;dr available so I don't have to go through 15 pages of messages? wtf is going on?
"i'm sorry if you were offended by what i said about you, *lame*street media!!! plz like and subscribe"Is it impossible for people to just make a damn apology? You were wrong.
Can I claim your doggo avatar now?
... Is there a tl;dr available so I don't have to go through 15 pages of messages? wtf is going on?
Not yet
Pony avatar needs some respect
I'm taking it back
What was the Hugh Mongus thing? Is that the one where he stuck up for that guy accosting that poor lady who was asking him questions?
Is it impossible for people to just make a damn apology? You were wrong.
Yeah saying free speech was dumb of me. I still think it's better to engage and refute those ideas than calling for them to be banned.
What was the Hugh Mongus thing? Is that the one where he stuck up for that guy accosting that poor lady who was asking him questions?
It's definitely a post-internet thing, sadly. Not even South Park could predict how absurd this has gotten.The Civil War? Sounds like a defense of minstrel shows.
Ethan believed a racist before he did a news organization. He then tried to take down said news organization, only to play himself.
It's like trying to "reclaim" the swastika or Pepe at this point. It's a lost cause.
Is that Pony vaping or what.Not yet
Pony avatar needs some respect
I'm taking it back
Well when you put it like that it just sounds absurdEthan believed a racist before he did a news organization. He then tried to take down said news organization, only to play himself.
I associate people like you with racists. I wouldn't want to deal with racists or violent people like you.
but love and respect and friendship and magic
Is that Pony vaping or what.
The guy who was harrased by a woman because of a stupid dad joke.Hugh Mungus what?
Eh, isn't it just as likely that people stop making videos that are likely not to gain ad revenue and shape up?These advertisers are making a dumb move.
They're pulling budget from one of the very few properties online where you can buy video advertising at scale that actually drives results.
Good luck getting any sort of ROI from daily-toaster-reviews.org that sees 90% bot traffic and shows your ad below the fold on mute to the tens of real humans a day who don't bounce away from the site fast enough.
Great news for anyone who wants to sell anything - YouTube CPMs on premium channels and keywords are probably as low as they will be for a long time. It'll likely never be this cheap again.
It's like trying to "reclaim" the swastika or Pepe at this point. It's a lost cause.
that's nazi talkbut love and respect and friendship and magic
LIs there some foreign country where Pepe, ponies, and anime are untainted with racist associations?
Eh, isn't it just as likely that people stop making videos that are likely not to gain ad revenue and shape up?
I'm a minority
New media v. Old Media in the cage match of the century. Turns out New Media is a moron and doesn't actually know any MMA moves to save their life. Got punched out like Ronda after talking somethin' fierce.... Is there a tl;dr available so I don't have to go through 15 pages of messages? wtf is going on?