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Nintendo First-Party Thread: The Teams, The Games, The Future
- Thread starter Shikamaru Ninja
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gingerbeardman
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If we're getting another racer I'd much rather have a new Excite Truck than a Kong racer.
JRPG/Scifi Burnout Paradise 3D (FLying) is my vote. Who wouldnt want to race around a gigantic 5th element/Minority Report inspired city as a Nintendo anime/scifi character (Samus, Fox, Captain Falcon, Shulk, Elma, Kid Icarus, Link/Zelda, Pheonix Wright ect)
Hey, about this potential upcoming Direct could it just be the video they usually do one month before E3, where they announce their E3 plans? Like the Mega64 skit in 2014, and the Reggie workout skit in 2015? So they could formally announce the Splatoon 2 tournament, the Treehouse Live streams, etc?
Personally, I hope it's TPC announcing Pokemon Stars. They seem to like announcing games on their own terms.
Personally, I hope it's TPC announcing Pokemon Stars. They seem to like announcing games on their own terms.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I really hope retro is making a new IP, I think they deserve that much.
I just wish someone with inside info would tell me one thing:
Is Retro's current project cartoony and colorful... or dark and realistic?
Dark Cloud
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Super Metal Dave made a video again lol. I guess he has a video before where he said Metroid Prime 4 was being made and it was going to be revealed at E3. He said he's going to be in a podcast with Spawn Wave this weekend to give updates to the rumors he heard about. I'll be watching to hear about this Metroid Prime 4 game.
Wasn't he full of shit with his Switch rumours?
Not75Drops
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I'm pretty sure he only broke one legit leak, that being 3DS budget report, with the rest being false.
Dark Cloud
Member
Tbh I can't remember what his Switch leaks were. I knew people didn't care for him after his whole leak fiasco.
SinCityAssassin
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He was the guy who accidentally got emailed the 3DS and Wii U project list and then got full of himself and believed in a faulty source that told him that the NX would be PS4 tier powered and AMD powered. And then went with it for months while insulting other insiders with his perfect intel.
Literally where did this rumor come from, I've heard nothing.
Dark Cloud
Member
He was very arrogant and so adamant about AMD super powerful Nintendo console. And then he would say "it's stil coming". Like you said he insulted others who didn't agree with him.
It's not a rumor. It's what I personally believe they're making. I was saying most gamers will be said if Retro ends up making DKR2 because it's another racing game.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Then I'll do you one worse and say they're doing a Donkey Kong 3 game. Yeah that's right. A remake of Donkey Kong 3 the Arcade game. BAM I can say stuff too.
And wasnt the only reason he knew that because someone mistakenly sent that 3DS budget report to a bunch of people who shouldnt have got it. Dude doesnt know anything, he was lucky one time, thats all lol
EDIT: yep, something like that
Skittzo0413
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Before Mario Kart 8 Deluxe did so well I'd say not great, but now I have no idea. I agree I would absolutely love having those on the Switch.
Shikamaru Ninja
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I think their main priority was transferring the multiplayer/online communities over to the Switch. Hence Mario Kart 8DX, Splatoon 2, and likely Super Smash Bros. DX.
We will see how they handle the offline Wii U classics (NSMBU, DKC, Captain Toad, Xenoblade X) at a later time? Maybe a few eshop digital releases at discounted prices.
TheMoon
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too soon after Odyssey to make much sense, imo
Could do it next winter instead? Means another Mario game at Christmas alongside what ever big releases they have planned for next year
Lord_Byron28
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I'm interested to see where EAD 1 and 2 go after they complete Mario Kart, ARMS, Splatoon 2, and Animal Crossing by 2018. Obviously they will have small core teams that will continue supporting the games through updates and DLC but I'd be curious what games they work on next. I could see EAD 1 succesfully reinventing Star Fox as a multiplayer driven franchise. It could still have a SF64 style campaign but have the focus be on its multiplayer modes. Online dogfights with mecha transformations could make for some interesting battles. Maybe have a new all female squadron to choose to play as along with Star Fox and Star Wolf characters. Ability to select different ships, laser beams, special weapons, Arwing transformations, etc. Likewise after seeing what they could do with Splatoon. I could see EAD 2 doing a great job with Kid Icarus using Uprising as a good foundation for the game. Other than that I think they could make a Nintendoland 2 sequel work. Have new mini games that can be played single player, co-op, local and/or online multiplayer structured similar to Nintendoland. You gain rewards by playing minigames which allow you to build your own Nintendoland. You can unlock different buildings, structures and characters that visit the world you create. All Amiibo are compatible and unlock even more specific content from that respective franchise that the Amiibo came from. I think we could see Mario Maker and Pikmin 4 come out in 2018, possibly after that the teams could work on a new ip and/or a new 2D Mario series. As for the Zelda team, I really hope they are able to release a new ip. If they just use an updated BotW engine, perhaps they could split resources and get 2D Zelda, a new ip and a new 3D Zelda out in 3-4 years. The 3D Mario team will probably work on a sequel to the SM3DW style gameplay, maybe even call it Super Mario 3D Galaxy. They could complete that with 2 years development time and maybe work on a new ip after that. I'd like to see all of Nintendo's internal teams be able to do a new ip like EAD 1 and 2 were with arms and splatoon.
As for Retro, I like Retro for their high quality games, amazing level design, great art direction/style and content rich, single player adventures. With the Metroid Prime series, they were able to provide Nintendo with something different that was well received. DKC:R series was great as I'm sure whatever their next title will be but, I hope for something a bit more expansive and outside Nintendo's usual realm. With that said I have this feeling that they may be working on Luigi's Mansion given its performance on 3DS. I'd love to see Metroid but I have a feeling that will be worked on with another 3rd party developers.
Nintendo apparently was looking for someone to partner with for a new F-Zero game ready for Wii U launch. I wonder if that could be Monster Games next title. Nintendo seems to be more aware of its fan base including the niche ones. It will likely be a while until we see Next Level Games title but I think a Splatoon spin-off would be kinda cool. Call it Splatoon Gladiator incorporating multiple different sports modes with the mechanics of Splatoon. There could be different sports such as one based on Football but with the shooting and paint mechanics along with a much different arena design, one based on racing and trick system using skateboards and rollerblades, survivor mode, etc. Given NLG's work with Strikers and Federation Force, I think this could be a big hit.
As for Retro, I like Retro for their high quality games, amazing level design, great art direction/style and content rich, single player adventures. With the Metroid Prime series, they were able to provide Nintendo with something different that was well received. DKC:R series was great as I'm sure whatever their next title will be but, I hope for something a bit more expansive and outside Nintendo's usual realm. With that said I have this feeling that they may be working on Luigi's Mansion given its performance on 3DS. I'd love to see Metroid but I have a feeling that will be worked on with another 3rd party developers.
Nintendo apparently was looking for someone to partner with for a new F-Zero game ready for Wii U launch. I wonder if that could be Monster Games next title. Nintendo seems to be more aware of its fan base including the niche ones. It will likely be a while until we see Next Level Games title but I think a Splatoon spin-off would be kinda cool. Call it Splatoon Gladiator incorporating multiple different sports modes with the mechanics of Splatoon. There could be different sports such as one based on Football but with the shooting and paint mechanics along with a much different arena design, one based on racing and trick system using skateboards and rollerblades, survivor mode, etc. Given NLG's work with Strikers and Federation Force, I think this could be a big hit.
Dark Cloud
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Lots of great ideas and I would love for the 3D Mario team to make a brand new IP. I want to see a brand new experience (single player) from them. Also, Aonuma kind of hinted he's making a new IP with a thief. Takahashi, one of the heads at Nintendo, said to expect a lot more new IPs from Nintendo.
With Retro you said they might be making Luigis Mansion. Were you confusing them with Next Level Games since NLG made Luigis Mansion Dark Moon?
Lets hope retro studios is working on a new metroid game, preferably with the BotW engine and in third person view (note: using the botw engine doesn't mean it has to be an open world game, while exploring a huge alien planet crawling with metroids and other alien live forms sounds pretty dank).
Well whatever it is, their game will most likely be shown at E3, I'd be a bit dissapointed if it was just another DKC game though (even though they were on par with what Rare created in the SNES)
Well whatever it is, their game will most likely be shown at E3, I'd be a bit dissapointed if it was just another DKC game though (even though they were on par with what Rare created in the SNES)
Dark Cloud
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I keep forgetting about Pikmin 4. It was on the list to come out during the first year for the Switch from different rumors. Maybe Pikmin 4 will be announced at E3 and release this fall.
Which rumormongers said Pikmin 4 was slated for Switch's Year 1?
Pretty sure it was Emily Rogers?
Edit: yeah it was: https://twitter.com/arcadegirl64/status/798886351911403520?lang=en
I thought that was an interpretation of Miyamoto's comments about the next title in the franchise?
fredrancour
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Galaxy might be lineup filler in future year. They won't release it within a year of Odyssey.
Mpthd could totally happen. It's like the most cautious release for the series possible.
SuperBlank
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Well depending how extensive the VC is, I could see getting all Zeldas except probably PH, ST, SS and ALBW.
TheMoon
Member
Just get a Wii U, it's better there anyway and you get the benefit of access to a ton of other gems.
MisterGrey3000
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It would be pretty cool, but there are already a lot of those on other consoles.
I'd personally love to see them make a AAA 3D platformer featuring those awesome action-packed set piece moments and that dynamic camera from their DKC (soft) reboot series.
From a few years ago
https://kevincallahangames.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/the-strange-development-of-diddy-kong-racing-2/
I remember the GAF thread, most people thought it was true. Diddy Kong not showing up in Mario Kart 8 (still hasn't shown up), animal vehicles, it was pretty convincing.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
RIP Spawn Wave.
You will be missed.
The Horror the horror
Banned
What's Next Level Games doing?
They're essentially Nintendo second party.
They're essentially Nintendo second party.
TheDinoman
Member
I'm just being weird but I always found the notion of doing a Diddy Kong Racing 2 somewhat strange considering the original game is basically now gone forever due to legal issues.
"Here's Diddy Kong Racing 2, you guys!"
"Cool! But where's Diddy Kong Racing 1?"
"Uh...."
"Here's Diddy Kong Racing 2, you guys!"
"Cool! But where's Diddy Kong Racing 1?"
"Uh...."
Dark Cloud
Member
He was good before he was taken over. We'll miss him. 😔
TheDinoman
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Last game they worked on was Federation Force which came out last year. We don't know what they've been doing since.
Dark Cloud
Member
Nobody knows. I doubt we'll see what they're working on at E3.
The Horror the horror
Banned
I'm sure the people that brought us Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon are eager to cleanse themselves of the FF stench and announce a new game. I expect some announcement from them in E3.
TheMoon
Member
reminder that Diddy Kong Racing came out on the DS about a decade ago. And that DK64 came out on VC
There's no problem with DKR if they stuck with the alterations from the DS version.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
I'm still waiting for my AMD based x86 Nintendo console with better than PS4 Pro specs...
Dark Cloud
Member
I doubt they're worried about it. That was a very long time ago. They've got plenty of new characters today and whatever else needed to be replaced I'm sure is no biggie.
Stone Ocean
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gingerbeardman
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That actually happened with Motor Toon Grand Prix (MTGP) series on PSX.
The first MTGP was released in Japan only. MTGP2 came to Japan and Europe as MTGP2. But the USA freaked out and renamed their release of MTGP2 to MTGP.
Schopenhauerian
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Since Miyamoto's potential influence on story content in future first-party Nintendo games (RPG games in particular) has been a frequently recurring topic in various threads (most recently in the Rabbids threads, here and here), I thought it might be of interest to assemble some of the material that I found interesting on this subject. Would definitely be interested in any additional material/insight that folks think is pertinent:
For Miyamoto and Hongo, then, there was clearly something of a commercial interest in expanding the demographic appeal of Mario, which in turn motivated Miyamoto to overcome his ”fundamental dislike" of the RPG genre, to the extent that he himself pursued the cooperation with Square, and he himself participated in the development of Super Mario RPG.
Moreover, I think it's particularly interesting to note Miyamoto's reference to the ‘writer's voice', in describing Shigesato Itoi: ”...I don't really like the system, but if you need to have a game with dialogue - in the case of Shigsato Itoi's Mother, as far as bringing about a writer's voice and bring a book to life..."
The ‘writer's mentality' or ‘writer's voice' is something Miyamoto has mentioned more than once (in connection with people like Shigesato Itoi, Denis Dyack, Hideo Kojima), something that he views as necessary in order for a story-heavy project to be successful, and in order for him to feel a ‘sense of security' about such a project: if an authentic 'writer's voice' is present on a particular project, and if that writer is willing and able to invest serious time and effort into that project, Miyamoto may be willing to actively ‘encourage' that writer/project, and indeed take some amount of risk to support or promote the project (”...if I were to work on it with Itoi, I intended to make him write everything himself... Itoi seemed dead serious about it and offered to lighten his copywriting load, so I put together a team for him in Tokyo... we said that we'd call it quits if he couldn't give us the time—since we trusted that he would, we okayed the project..."):
So the project (Super Mario RPG - 1996) got off the ground in the first place because Miyamoto 'wanted to do an RPG using Mario', he was 'directly involved' with parts of the 'game system [game design] and gameplay ideas' but gave ‘free hand' to Square to add new characters and to emphasize story, and even while Miyamoto kept a watchful eye on the development, the new characters, the new worlds/settings, the story emphasis, and the RPG structure remained prominent in the final game:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1177340
So despite his ”fundamental dislike" of the RPG system, Miyamoto admits that ”there are so many people who do like it, and there are certain types of games for which that system is perfectly suited... in the case of Mario, if you're not good at action games, but still want to play a Mario title..."; and this admission from Miyamoto quite closely corresponds to Hongo's earlier statement: ”...There have been calls from all ages, and from young girls, for another character to which they could become attached... Nintendo's director, Mr. Miyamoto also wanted to do an RPG using Mario...."
For Miyamoto and Hongo, then, there was clearly something of a commercial interest in expanding the demographic appeal of Mario, which in turn motivated Miyamoto to overcome his ”fundamental dislike" of the RPG genre, to the extent that he himself pursued the cooperation with Square, and he himself participated in the development of Super Mario RPG.
Moreover, I think it's particularly interesting to note Miyamoto's reference to the ‘writer's voice', in describing Shigesato Itoi: ”...I don't really like the system, but if you need to have a game with dialogue - in the case of Shigsato Itoi's Mother, as far as bringing about a writer's voice and bring a book to life..."
The ‘writer's mentality' or ‘writer's voice' is something Miyamoto has mentioned more than once (in connection with people like Shigesato Itoi, Denis Dyack, Hideo Kojima), something that he views as necessary in order for a story-heavy project to be successful, and in order for him to feel a ‘sense of security' about such a project: if an authentic 'writer's voice' is present on a particular project, and if that writer is willing and able to invest serious time and effort into that project, Miyamoto may be willing to actively ‘encourage' that writer/project, and indeed take some amount of risk to support or promote the project (”...if I were to work on it with Itoi, I intended to make him write everything himself... Itoi seemed dead serious about it and offered to lighten his copywriting load, so I put together a team for him in Tokyo... we said that we'd call it quits if he couldn't give us the time—since we trusted that he would, we okayed the project..."):
So the project (Super Mario RPG - 1996) got off the ground in the first place because Miyamoto 'wanted to do an RPG using Mario', he was 'directly involved' with parts of the 'game system [game design] and gameplay ideas' but gave ‘free hand' to Square to add new characters and to emphasize story, and even while Miyamoto kept a watchful eye on the development, the new characters, the new worlds/settings, the story emphasis, and the RPG structure remained prominent in the final game:
So even though Miyamoto supervised in both cases and at about the same time (starting in late 2009), the results –- Sticker Star (2012) vs. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team (2013) –- are not at all the same, with respect to story content, characters, locations, and structure:
See also:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1177340
TheSpaceBetween
Member
That's not really how game development works.
The Giant
Banned
Luigi's Mansion 3.
It looks to me as if Headstrong Games has been disbanded after Disney Art Academy. Checking on that game's credits, all team members moved somewhere else. Given that Kuju had like 6 studios 10 years ago, and then scaled down to a small Art Academy team at Headstrong and a small casual game studio, it wouldn't be a surprise.
This game was thus unsuccessfully pitched;
This game was thus unsuccessfully pitched;