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Final PS3 dev kit and menu video
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Souldriver
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I really like all the menu's they've showed at E3. The typical menu with the simple line of smoke behind it that slowly moves, the simple line at the top and the bottom of the screen when you browse the net. And if I'm correct, the Singstar (?) menu is also very nice, with a bottom line that get reflected as if it's standing on a marble floor. I like minimalistic design, and this sure is one. 
Tieno
Member
While I think the menu and all looks very nice, I don't think it's that pratical or efficient. I was way more impressed when I saw the 360 user interface. But I probably need to see more of it.
What does impress me, more so than many other touted features is that the PS3 is (said to be) as silent as a PStwo. That is a big deal, I think, and I'm curious how they're going to pull that off. One of the things I don't like with my 360 is that it's pretty loud and I have to crank up the volume when playing games. Not a deal breaker, but it's annoying. That's a good reason for me to play multiplatform games on a ps3 (once I get it, probably after the first price drop).
What does impress me, more so than many other touted features is that the PS3 is (said to be) as silent as a PStwo. That is a big deal, I think, and I'm curious how they're going to pull that off. One of the things I don't like with my 360 is that it's pretty loud and I have to crank up the volume when playing games. Not a deal breaker, but it's annoying. That's a good reason for me to play multiplatform games on a ps3 (once I get it, probably after the first price drop).
I'll reserve judgement on how useful it is, but I love the aesthetic of the PS3 XMB. The 360's blades were a neat idea and they work decently enough, but I hated the look of those menus. Both developers really need to ensure their menus work reliably though - whichever glitches the least will get my vote.
travisbickle
Member
Why don't Sony update their "Vaio Launcher" program to look like the XMB, that'd be quality.
I think people are jumping the gun on functionality. The nature of XMB is that features can easily be added without ruining the design. The 360's menu system is pretty much set in stone while this should allow for plenty of additional functionality. We've already seen additional functions added to the PSP and there is no doubt that the PS3 rendition of XMB will offer much more.
DreamMachine
Member
dark10x said:
They add things all the time..
the last thing they added was the functionality of the market place.
Yes, I'm aware of that, but I'm talking about the actual main screen (with the 4 blades). I suppose adding something may not be required, but I was talking about actually adding completely new functionality. It doesn't seem like they have as much room to grow.DreamMachine said:
The basic framework of the XMB and 360 UI is essentially the same - both having you flicking through primary content "pages" horizontally and then navigating the content itself on that page vertically, as a single column list of items for the most part. 360 UI dresses up the dead space more and uses larger font sizes to reduce the overall perception of dead space but, other than that, there's not much of a functional difference between the two approaches.
MrPing1000
Member
the muzak made it
Can anyone else just NOT hit 1up.com lately? It just refuses to load... in any browser known to man, animal or alien. I'm certainly not behind any type of firewall.
Is it the same video as this? The working E3 PS3 XMB demo, with the browser?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aDqlNQf_nNo
Is it the same video as this? The working E3 PS3 XMB demo, with the browser?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aDqlNQf_nNo
Jim said:
The video is actually integrated with gamevideos.com. Here's the link to it:
http://gamevideos.com/swf/video.swf...d=false&runtime=49&showlogo=false&playAuto=no
edit: The video is on the left hand side of the main page at gamevideos.com.
AlanHemberger
Banned
I like it
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
That devkit looks a lot like a LaserDisc player (in size and style, at least).
Jim said:Lo and behold, GameVideos refuses to load at all now as well.
It's like their data center is IP filtering my domain. What the hell...
I see Rhazer Fusion was having the same problems.
You're not missing a whole lot.
The newest kit:
Unplug the controller from the kit, press down the middle button and the lights flash red..
..and then one seems to illuminate green..
The dev kit XMB - just 4 top level icons (including friends, strangely enough perhaps), and some text:
That's all there is really.
Jim said:Lo and behold, GameVideos refuses to load at all now as well.
It's like their data center is IP filtering my domain. What the hell...
I see Rhazer Fusion was having the same problems.
These are download links to wmv and mov versions.
http://download.gamevideos.com/5104/gv.com.SonyDevkitInfomercial2_720x480.mov
http://download.gamevideos.com/5104/gv.com.SonyDevkitInfomercial2_720x480.wmv
Here's a yousendit link for the wmv version:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F12459E02E5DE349
and yep, there's nothing much to see anyways.
Incidentally, that appears to be the in-game overlay of XMB - i.e. the equivalent of pressing the Home button on the PSP during a game. The stuff along the left side of the screen appears to be the current game interface for a multiplayer game of Full Auto and the XMB icons are layered over that. This isn't the base XMB OS, just the functions accessible in-game.gofreak said:
travisbickle
Member
dalyr95 said:
Man, I love that look. The Sony Vaio has got a basic version of this, they need to update it to make it look funky like that.
kaching said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. that's definitely demoing the "in game" usage of the XMB. That would explain the lack of the background wave.
You can see options within the XMB for "Users", "Game" -> "Quit Game", "Settings" and "Friends". They should have expanded the others to see what was beneath them. Hah at the little smileys on some of those icons.
Also, that muzak rocked.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
I wonder if the XMB is programmable for game developers. The main XMB menu from E306 has a heck of a lot of options, but that in-game XMB shot shows less icons on the menu, but the ones that remain are still game-related to some degree ("friends", for example).
EDIT: TOO F****S*DF&*SD(F&(S*DF LATE.
EDIT: TOO F****S*DF&*SD(F&(S*DF LATE.
Ohh, I like the way they are handling the "in game" XMB options. It would have been nice if PSP had such an option (though ram may have been an issue), but I'm glad it's here.
It looks very slick and hopefully will operate smoothly, unlike the 360 in-game blade (which runs terribly slow with certain games). I also appreciate that it appears directly over the game.
What would be especially neat looking would be a nice depth of field effect applied to the entire screen when the XMB is called up (a smooth fade). If developers can then customize which icons appear (along with standard icons) that would be even better.
That pic with the music options is VERY cool looking as well and I hope the final machine has a similar appearance. I've never been a huge fan of the giant, bold, colorful look that MS chose for 360. It's not bad, but it's not great either. It's very "WinXP", but even bolder. The giant fonts and soft edges aren't my favorite.
It looks very slick and hopefully will operate smoothly, unlike the 360 in-game blade (which runs terribly slow with certain games). I also appreciate that it appears directly over the game.
What would be especially neat looking would be a nice depth of field effect applied to the entire screen when the XMB is called up (a smooth fade). If developers can then customize which icons appear (along with standard icons) that would be even better.
That pic with the music options is VERY cool looking as well and I hope the final machine has a similar appearance. I've never been a huge fan of the giant, bold, colorful look that MS chose for 360. It's not bad, but it's not great either. It's very "WinXP", but even bolder. The giant fonts and soft edges aren't my favorite.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Mmmkay said:
I don't think the PSP pauses when you hit the home button, so I wouldn't expect the PS3 to do the same (how does one pause an online game, for example).
It's basically the same thing, though...just loaded up with giant fonts and oversized panels. They both share the same horizontal category navigation with the vertical option navigation. Same functionality, different look. The MS dashboard just LOOKS ultra beefy in comparison.Diablos said:
typo said:
Was gonna say, and this does seem to be in an online mode when the screen was taken. Anyway, presuming start pauses a game and the middle button brings up the xmb, they aren't necessarily dependent. The user could perhaps decide to hit start to pause, and then bring up the xmb, or bring up the xmb without pausing.
This is what it could look like. Stolen from B3D.
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465113_24b5bd80bc_o.jpg
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465107_5b1f48c030_o.jpg
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465109_f099be54ae_o.jpg
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465116_d354cbeaaa_o.jpg
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465113_24b5bd80bc_o.jpg
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465107_5b1f48c030_o.jpg
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465109_f099be54ae_o.jpg
http://web.mac.com/clc1986/iWeb/Site/Photos_files/117465116_d354cbeaaa_o.jpg
Zaptruder said:
What the heck is that supposed to mean? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but it would seem XMB has greater horizontal "extensibility" since its top level horizontal menu can be as long as it needs to be, whereas isn't the X360 dashboard limited by how many blades you can pile onto one screen and still have their names visible? I don't have extensive experience with either one so I'm just asking.
I really prefer the clean look of the XMB over the X360 dashboard though, it appeals to my aesthetic sensibilities more.
Yeah, you're right. It was just an observation really. Since the OS has dedicated resources it make sense that the game could freely play on while you're browsing the menu. It will be probably be down to the game itself whether it decides to pause when you press the PS button.kaching said:
That's exactly what he meant.teiresias said:
Either UI is as extensible as it needs to be, regardless, just that one might do that more along the horizontal while the other will do it with more nesting of options. Either way, there'd be a point where adding too much would become very unwieldy.
firefoxsux
Banned
dark10x said:
last i know xmb reserved 3x more ram, 1 full spe, 1 part ppe. it better be smoothly unlike 360 blades i think used only 32mb ram and 5% ppe2 and ppe3?
i think there were debates on these extravagent chunks in a limited environment reserved for just a menu?