LordMuffin
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Well, after this... call me up when they'll announce a new Zelda/Metroid/F-Zero/SSB/Whatnot
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GameTrailers Live Wii U Special 6-8 PM EST
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
If ZombiU is an ok game, and they're sticking to this embargo policy, consider them dumb. I'm looking around for other games I might want to pick up on launch day. Without impressions I won't consider ZombiU.., and if they come on or after launch day, it's too late for launch fervor.
maquiladora
Member
I just repeated what Shane said on GT. I don't know if thats actually true or not.
MarshMellow96
Member
Did he say any more than that?
For me, all the other features (Miis, Miiverse, TVii, hell even the gamepad) aren't really that important. I just know we will get excellent games from Nintendo and third parties on this system, just like past Nintendo consoles and hopefully even more this time around.
What IS disappointing about the Wii U, and I've not seen this mentioned anywhere else, is the loading times in the OS. Maybe its ok with Sony and MS's consoles. But accessibility is one of the most important elements of Nintendo hardware, having a loading screen even for entering the settings is just.... very unusual of Nintendo.
Thinking about it now, both Wii U and 3DS seem to go against Nintendo's philosophies for the most part. I realize the ideas were there long before the consoles existed, but I feel like they have compromised just a bit too much this time around.
That's not what he is saying at all.
Because publishers are trying to move to a point where reviews are irrelevant.
Almost every publishers is moving more towards pre-order bonuses, pre-order bonuses that time out before launch date, limited run special editions, etc. Couple that with these embargoes and you have a situation where people purchase a game well before reviews are available.
If you have embargoes but then drop them only for good games people will wise up and realize the other games are bad. If you have an across the board policy that encourages extremely late reviews there's no recourse from consumers or reviewers.
Well, my mistake.
No. He is embargoed from talking about the game in any detail.
That makes sense, but the stream seemed to imply it was only ZombiU that had that embargo, and it's not the only Ubisoft game. So maybe they didn't specify Ubisoft because the other games from them aren't as high profile, but if it is a different embargo for those other games, there isn't the standardized time you're suggesting.
There are positive reasons you'd want to delay a review embargo too though, if eveyone's goes up nine hours before yours, you're the review feature on the main page of a site for hours, unlike the flood for that 12AM moment.
My point was never the time (although if it differs from the other Ubi games for Wii U, there must be a reason), it was that Shane was irritated about it and seemed to suggest it was a hindrance, maybe that just because he wants everything up at once, but I think it was more likely suggesting the game is bad and he wants to let people know. I guess we'll see in a couple of days.
I sorta missed the bit after my tweet was read coz I was laughing so I just watched it now. I'm super surprised (read: sceptical) that they couldn't find any tweets complaining about the disc mistake. The hashtag had been full of them ever since they made it.
Ring-ring....
Well, they looked, and they didn't see anything about the discs being any shape other than circular
Well, they looked, and they didn't see anything about the discs being any shape other than circular
THEY WON'T BE CIRCULAR IF THEY ZOOM IN ENOUGH I'M SURE OF IT
boiled goose
good with gravy
Embargos for reviews till after the game comes out is some serious unacceptable BS.
Gaming journalism and reviewers really need to set some standards and guidelines and force publishers to abide by them or agree to not give games any publicity. there needs to be a union or a society or something.
Then again. Dorito pope. :/
Gaming journalism and reviewers really need to set some standards and guidelines and force publishers to abide by them or agree to not give games any publicity. there needs to be a union or a society or something.
Then again. Dorito pope. :/
Wasn't ass creed pretty mediocre by reviews given? I just don't get post release review embargoes. I see them as nothing but anti consumer.
UberTag
Member
It's nice to want things.
Of course, they're anti-consumer.
You pay them back by not buying anything at launch and not caring about meaningless pre-order hooks.
Embargoes are done for two reason -- #1 to not let negative reviews impact sales before it goes live. And #2 to let all sites get equal opportunity traffic.
What if Tom Chick at QuartertoThree.com some how got their copy of Halo 4 in the mail before everyone else and spent that night beating it? And Tom played around the clock beating it and had that 1/5 star review at 8AM. Maybe his review was a full a day or more before others (definitely before most). Now Halo 4 has a terrible score early and QT3 is getting all the hits. It's unfair to everyone.
Anyway, it's mutually helpful to publishers and press.
He's not saying embargoes are bad; embargoes that end AFTER the game comes out are bad... for the consumer.
Messofanego
Banned
You seem to be implying his review was hit-bait, but it was a well-reasoned review and score. How would that be unfair?
Azure Dream
Member
The original Wii OS was sped up dramatically after the first round of updates. Considering how unfinished the preloaded firmware is, I wouldn't be surprised if the Day 1 update makes things snappier, and it might even improve from there.
KillerTravis
Banned
Because it's the only opinion available to the public and it'll not reflect what most people think about the game.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Thanks.
Simple Standards:
embargo ends before 1 -2 days before game goes on sale.
publishers have to send review copies to all affiliated reviewers one week before embargo date.
done.
your welcome.
Well I'm creating a mock scenario where Tom Chick had the only review of Halo 4 out early. Thus only 1 critic's opinion is out days before anyone else. It's not fair to press or pub.
Also, I'm not implying that Tom Chick cares about hits, in order to care about hits you have to care about ad revenue from hits and he doesn't even have ads on his website. I could be implying other things though, but that's a derail of a derail...
They are working on a huge Zelda game but you are looking at 3plus years for that. F zero game really ehh I would never buy that.
Super smash and metroid would prob be a lot sooner and a new donkey Kong country.
we can only hope that the os was so slow because of its barebones state
Maybe, but it seems like the opposite would be true. I'm surprised they weren't complaining about it because it was rather noticeable. Popping into MiiVerse and stuff like that will be irrelevant if it's not speedy.
I agree. The load times were absolutely pathetic. If it stays that way I am NOT going to enjoy using the system's other features. All we can do now though is hope at some point there's an update to make it faster some how.
I really hope that's not a sign as to how slow their flash memory is on the whole. What was it, 10-15 seconds to load a Mii Maker or something?
so weird wasn't it !
Madden looks really good and bad
that lack of polish is very noticeable especially on the small screen