Canis lupus
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Can't wait for Odin, Xperias always have a sexy design, and from the rumors the innards are good too.
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Sony projects it will sell 50 million Xperias next year, Odin set to work his magic
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zomgbbqftw
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A work colleague just had one delivered to the office this morning, he absolutely loves it. Much better than my shitty HTC. Even the iPhone and Galaxy S3 owners were looking pretty envious. The killer feature is no TouchWiz...
I can't wait to get my hands on that sweet Odin in Feb! I just hope Vodafone have it, I really don't want to leave them, but I would to get Odin.
I also hope Sony get rid of the Xperia [insert random letter] name and call it Xperia Odin. It would be so awesome...
Schlachtor
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I upgraded from a HTC Desire S so obviously the difference is pretty overhelming. But yeah i'm over the moon with it. Last Sony (Ericsson) phone i had was a W890i! Heh
Agreed on the stupid names. Odin would be such a great name for a phone.
And then the Q4 flagship could be Xperia (Nova)Thor?
zomgbbqftw
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Fucking this! Xperia Thor. Man I love it.
This summer I upgraded from a HTC Desire myself and I'm absolutely loving my new Xperia S. The Xperia Home launcher is so smooth and nice looking that it's a real pleasure to use it. Besides the transparent bar is an absolute eye-catcher, couple of people already asked about my phone when I got a text and the bar started to blink.
High five!
My best phone yet.
So damn fast!!
Whats it like for battery etc...? Was thinking of getting one in Feb but think i'll wait for an Odin/Yuga or an S4. Those specs gosh so tasty!
Why would camera be an issue on a Sony phone?
Some sOny mobile have strange software compression increasing noise level
zomgbbqftw
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Odin is being tested with 2400-2800mAh batteries and it should come with the new Auto HDR Exmor RS BSI sensor so it should have significantly improved lowlight performance. The only question mark is their JPEG performance but there are good signs that they are making big improvements in that area, I just hope they roll out the improvements to all of their products.
I see. Never heard about that issue before but since it's a software issue, it shouldn't be too hard to fix, right? But then it's Sony...
The Last Wizard
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If they made a CDMA phone I'd try it out, Sony is the only thing that'd would get me back to android at this point.
I think it will be interesting to see how much Sony Mobile sells in Q3 (Oct-Dec) period. I wander if they can push above 10m, then that will mean that they are going to easily sell more than there target of 34m this Fiscal year. They have already once increased their fiscal year target for the mobile phones.
Ninja Kn1ght
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There were reports last month that Sony is working on a Nexus branded phone. Could be pretty cool.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/15/sony-nexus-x-rumor/
zomgbbqftw
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Sony tend to be weaker in Q4 than Q3 because competition is much stronger during the holiday season and Sony tend to get swamped by Samsung, HTC and Apple. However this year it looks like HTC won't have an answer to the Xperia T which is selling better than the One X/X+. I expect Sony will match their Q3 performance maybe a little better or worse. We're looking at 8.5-9.5m units shipped. It's still a good figure though and they will probably still be in third place for Q4 while increasing their ASP because of the Xperia T/TL/TX family being quite popular compared to the Arc S which did not put up much of a fight vs the Sensation XL, Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Nexus last year.
zomgbbqftw
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What do you mean an answer to Xperia T? That would be the new Droid DNA
Only for one network and only in the US. It doesn't look like the international version will make it out before the end of the year.
Good, that was an ugly phone.
Thats why i said it will be impressive if they push above 10m for the Oct to Dec Quarter. Although i think Sony is in a position to do that. and to be honest 50 million is not a big target for next year if they just expand the carriers and launch the phones in time with latest Android version.
Interferon
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They may even sell 50 mil. if they use current SoC's, OS, and biuld a propper, well-made flagship device.
I don't want another Snapdragon S3 Gingerbread Xperia S phone in 2012 that has serious build-quality issues.
I don't want another Snapdragon S3 Gingerbread Xperia S phone in 2012 that has serious build-quality issues.
Souless_PJ
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Lol the only thing Sony branded that is going to sell 50 million next year is their stock.
All the new Sony phones have had cameras that fall below par when compared to the S3, iPhone 5 etc. More noise, less detail etc. Megapixels mean little without the quality and processing being solid.
But there are Sony Android 5.0 Benchmark in the wild. which many thing is going to be Nexus Phone. because usually sony is not so quick in releasing a phone on latest Android version.
Android 5.0 Phone from Sony spotted on benchmark tests
Benchmark can be seen here
Anyway It could be another hoax..
Is it purely a software issue as another poster pointed out since iPhone uses Sony sensors anyway?
The company must be filled with experts with all those DCs that they are selling. So how is this even possible? Is Sony so inept that they cannot identify and fix it?
-Pyromaniac-
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Movie placement and the fact that unlike other failing companies, the Sony brand name still holds weight around the world are pretty much the reason I can believe they'll hit that target. IF they market their new phones well (odin/yuga) and actually put them on all carriers. I see this being easily achievable. Of course Sony seems to have issues with that, so we'll see.
tfur
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Apparenntly Sony has a huge patent arsenal so Apple won't even think about suing them.
Partly this and partly because they stretch the same sensor to 13mp whereas Apple and Samsung keep it at 8mp, so it's a smaller overall resolution, but you actually get better IQ and noise.
zomgbbqftw
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You do realise that the sensors in Apple and Samsung phones are made by Sony right? Also, that Samsung wanted the 13MP one for the S3 but Sony denied them and put it in the Xperia T instead.
The problem for Sony is that the JPEG performance is poor, but it looks like they are on the path to fixing it with their latest cameras. Out of the camera JPEGs for the RX1 are awesome and early reviews all confirm that Sony may finally have cracked their poor JPEG performance problems. If this can be rolled out to the rest of their products then Sony will have a big lead over other phone makers.
The other interesting idea I have heard is for Sony to make an Xperia K using the same Sensor as the RX100 and couple it with a 28mm equiv F1.8 Zeiss lens, basically a smartphone with a fixed focus camera inbuilt sort of like Samsung's Galaxy Camera, but actually desirable. That would be a phone camera worth having IMO as they could make it shoot RAW and put in full manual control with a touch interface.
Tallshortman
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Also there's the leaked documents actually claiming the original iphone design was inspired by sony designed products. Sony has been making rectangles way before apple!
GTP_Daverytimes
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Yep, I always say that Sony is the one company Apple should not dream of suing because they just might get burned.
Yeah, and unlike the Samsung lawsuit there's no way the judge can bar the jury from seeing that document.
They do, plus they actually got all the Ericson patents after the SE buyout. So honestly, they have a huge patent portfolio. Sony Mobile exec even mentioned it when quizzed why isn't Sony making Windows phone. He mentioned that many other companies jump on WP as a contingency in case they get sued by Apple for Android but Sony doesn't need to fear that since they have a very large patent portfolio.
Honestly, I'd prefer Sony to be the champion of Android rather than Samsung and I can't comprehend how come the situation is as it is. I mean Timescape is leagues ahead of Touchwiz, Sony's build quality and design are much better than Samsung and the software optimisation is amazing. Nevern mind the fact that their android update, while a bit slower than Samsung, is very comprehensive for the whole portfolio of their phones from entry to flagship devices.
They need to get their shit together with tablets though...
Sony were in the top 10 for amount of Patents awarded by the USPTO in every year from '97 to '10 except for 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_United_States_patent_recipients
Apple are not in the top 10 in any year on that list, and incredibly IBM is top EVERY year.
Sony have been in the business since 1946 so have a few patents dotted about as you said.
Neither of those is really surprising.
And Samsung is above Sony almost every year.. I'm not sure this really support this notion that Apple fear Sony, i think Apple just didn't care about Sony, as they were so small in smartphones...
Also, Apple vs HTC shows this is the reasoning even more, that it was not about being a look a like (like Samsung), it was just about having good Android sales, and you were targeted. Now that HTC is small again they throw a bone.
zomgbbqftw
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Sony own the whole of Ericsson's handset division's patents. That alone would be enough to fight Apple, as Google have shown with Moto's patents (Ericsson and Moto are of equal importance to the mobile phone industry). Add in Sony's patents and prior art on design and Apple would be foolish to start a lawsuit against Sony. If Sony do make it near the top of the Android tree then Apple will just have to suck it up.
I wish SONY do reach the top of the Android maker so we really see what happens then.
Does Apple come after them or leave them..
zomgbbqftw
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That's definitely good news as it shows that Sony are finally getting to grips with carriers in the US. Obviously this MTS company is pretty small time, but the word is that all of the major networks are interested in Odin and Yuga and there is a good chance that they will all have it as it comes with a Pentaband radio and a CDMA version is not difficult to make as the modem is not integrated and only requires the most basic of modifications.
It all depends on the sales of the Xperia T/TL, but I have heard that AT&T have been selling them very well.
It all depends on the sales of the Xperia T/TL, but I have heard that AT&T have been selling them very well.
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