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Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread
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Never.
I wouldn't hold my breath for the PS3, but maybe the PS4 could get some. The next gen systems seem quite similar to each other, so cross-platform ports should be trivial.
StarCreator
Member
You can get the PS1 port of Dodonpachi from JP PSN. That's all you're ever going to get.
Cave's programmers have never worked with the PS3 and with the system pretty much at the end of its life cycle and the market for their genre already assembled on 360 there's absolutely no reason for them to start now.
Augemitbutter
Member
PS3 will go for many more years. the possibility is there, and we know nothing about backwards compatibility yet. Cave could release all their games in 5 years and their audience would be there.
StarCreator
Member
People keep saying a market exists but never cite any hard evidence such claims are true. With very little exception, every shooting game producer has stuck with the 360 exclusively this generation. I like to think they have access to data we don't that justifies this decision.
As far as I know only one simultaneous 360/PS3 release was attempted this generation - Under Defeat HD. We'll never know how it went because both versions failed to chart - my suspicion is that they really sold the same number of copies as they would have if they stuck with a single platform, and both versions suffered because no one new entered the party.
Augemitbutter
Member
games for console A or B could disappear tomorrow and companies would still release STGs on them. that's what the past teaches us.
That's only because the Dreamcast was so easy for devs to release their games. From everything we've heard, the PS3 is a complicated system which requires extended development time. That's the main reason that the 360 gets so much love. It's basically a PC, which everyone knows how to develop for. Quick and neat port jobs.
Augemitbutter
Member
G.rev can do it. what platform do you think will devs choose in the near future, beside portables?
Hard to tell. Cave has made some statements about working closely with Microsoft on future projects. And since their platform choice has built a very STG friendly audience, others likely have similar plans. I definitively feel that Cave leads the next time around, and every one else follows.
Augemitbutter
Member
i'd be surprised if the genre moves next gen anytime soon. it's way too expensive. digital only budget releases is the only option i could believe in, if we're talking about next gen. i'll have to see to believe it though.
Sure, I'm not expecting any STG's on launch.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Fwuck yeah! Giga Wing 2 is out for delivery!
gunstarhero
Member
Famitsu scores are in for Ginga Force: 7/7/8/8, 30 points
Full article is up at Polygon:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/6/3958360/japan-review-check-dragon-quest-vii-ginga-force
Full article is up at Polygon:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/6/3958360/japan-review-check-dragon-quest-vii-ginga-force
adversesolutions
Member
Nah, Akai Katana got an 8/8/8/8 IIRC.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Got Giga Wing 2. I think I'm going to post an image of my shmup collection. Everyone else, follow my lead. It's time for updated collection images.
Pink/Pork gets a $30 budget re-release in about two weeks, if you don't know.
A good portion of my collection is still in CA :-(
Hmm, that will be quite a project, but maybe I'll try it this weekend.
RapidCancel
Member
Can anyone recommend me some shmups to play?
I haven't played any since ikaruga, but while vacationing in Tokyo, I spent a lot of money playing them in the arcades and it got me interested again. I just ordered Akai Katana to start off with.
I haven't played any since ikaruga, but while vacationing in Tokyo, I spent a lot of money playing them in the arcades and it got me interested again. I just ordered Akai Katana to start off with.
I did not know! You just saved me >$80. Thanks!
I can't stand Ikaruga, but if you like Akai Katana (which is great) you should look into Guwange for its similar(ish) theme and Deathsmiles since it's also a horizontal CAVE. Both should cost you ~$10 and both are very good - Deathsmiles is much easier than both and its scoring system is maybe too straight-forward, but it's fun and cheap.
Holy Cow, really? Is it still region free?
No word yet, but they've never changed the region-settings (either-way) for any of their many previous plat/best releases.
Any place I can pre-order it?
StarCreator
Member
Thanks.
Alright, given that I was ready to spend $200+, here's the new plan:
-Shienryu (SAT)
-Strikers 1945 II (SAT)
-Gunbird (SAT)
Yes they are all available elsewhere for cheaper
But I want them on Saturn.
/edit/ Hmm... might rethink Gunbird. Looks colorful and fun though.
Either way, I'm excited for more shmup gets.
I've used Amiami a few times in the past, but I'm not thrilled with how they operate. You place the order online, then receive an invoice at a later date by email. Feels a bit amateruish. Also, the one time I had to cancel an order, the guy told me that they don't except cancellations, but that he'll let it slide that one time. It doesn't really seem that they're ready to operate on a global scale in the internet age.
Hematocryal
Banned
Metal slug was the only one I was half way decent at. Those games are hard as shit. 500 projectiles all coming from different angles... YEESH. Too hard core for this cowboy, but it is a fun way to unwind. Some of the hardest bosses in gaming are from THESE kinds of games lol.
RapidCancel
Member
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check those two out before buying any more.
For some not-CAVE check out Raiden Fighters Aces, a collection of the terrific Raiden spin-offs. Some Gamestops still have it, and are only charging $10 for it. Worth it for the masterful third entry alone, which is one of the most fun video games (of any genre) that I've ever played.
Jap-Sai is great. I buy from them often and the stuff is always in fantastic condition.
adversesolutions
Member
So get this, in the 2ch Ginga Force thread, some guy posted up some info from the Shooting Gameside issue that just came out, which had a 12 page feature on the game:
Apparently there are two entirely separate shooters hidden inside Ginga Force:
Judgment Force Tiger
Judgement Force Dragon
The details are a little sketchy in the report but apparently Tiger is a ground-based shooter where you go through the stages destroying ground-based enemies like cannons. Dragon on the other hand has you mowing down loads of flying enemies.
Both games have several stages and score attack rankings. They are unlocked by proceeding through the main story's chapters.
Sounds pretty cool. I'm really eager to sit down with this when it comes out.
Apparently there are two entirely separate shooters hidden inside Ginga Force:
Judgment Force Tiger
Judgement Force Dragon
The details are a little sketchy in the report but apparently Tiger is a ground-based shooter where you go through the stages destroying ground-based enemies like cannons. Dragon on the other hand has you mowing down loads of flying enemies.
Both games have several stages and score attack rankings. They are unlocked by proceeding through the main story's chapters.
Sounds pretty cool. I'm really eager to sit down with this when it comes out.
adversesolutions
Member
And for shooter fans who don't follow the stick thread, Hori announced a Shooting stick. Generic, but clearly designed after Dodonpachi and with SDOJ release in mind. Also, the best mix of Seimitsu stick with Sanwa buttons (the pricier RG versions).
Ah those are Sanwas? Sounds good, I thought they were stock Hori at first (which suck). My 360 stick is mad worn out, might pick that up.
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
Hey guys, I've been a pretty casual fan of the shooter genre, but I think that I really want to start digging into this genre more. I'm a really big fan of difficult games that push my nerves to the edge, so I'd love to go somewhere close to that. I loved Ikaruga, enjoyed Deathsmiles a lot, but I grew up endlessly playing Gradius and R-Type.
Where can I start? What do you recommend?
Where can I start? What do you recommend?
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Hopefully not. The buttons look Seimitsu. If the configuration is anything like past SHMUP dedicated sticks, the lever will be a Seimitsu LS-32.
Edit: LS-32-01 Seimitsu lever and Sanwa OBSF-30RG buttons according to the translation.
Yeah, but I think it is one of those "pre-order it and if we get enough, we will make it" kinda sticks. So might not actually get made (and a total bitch for non-japan-living folks to get even if it does get made).
Here is the famitsu link:
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201302/09028348.html
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
gunstarhero
Member
That's awesome! Similar to what they did with Eschatos.
I cant wait for this game -
On the bright side, the page seems to be inaccessible at the moment. I'd like to think the server is getting slammed with requests from interested users. I feel confident that Cave fans can make this happen.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
I meant the Hori page linked in the Famitsu article. Hori.jp seems to be down/unresponsive at the moment. Again, I like to think this is a good sign.
Edit: It looks like horistore.com is also down.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Doh
StarCreator
Member
Play-Asia would probably be the best bet for ordering this if you don't have someone in Japan willing to proxy it for you. I've heard murmurs that they actually have a direct distribution deal with Hori rather than going through Horistore like everyone else. (Goes a long way toward explaining how they got so many of the Project DIVA controllers with very little markup.)
Crosses fingers.