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ScrewAttack : TOP 10 fighting games of -all time-
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RyanDG said:
Other than my friends (some of them are pretty good though), people who usually take part on championships, and do quite well. There are a few events on Spain every year (Animecons and stuff like that) where they build up championships, usually Tekken and Soul Calibur and I knew (and I've played against) a few of them. Also I'm on some kind of Nintendo Club, called N-Generation where there are real beasts at SSBM.
Again, I'm not saying that I can win every fucking match just button mashing against a real pro, I'm saying that I could win a single match out of a large bunch of them.
And I think I'm done with this thing, gotta back to my car license tests.
10. Virtual On: OT
9. xmen vs sf
8-Street Fighter 3 Alpha
7-SC
6-KoF '98
5-Street Fighter 2
4-Garou: MotW
3-Last Blade 2
2-VF5
1-Street Fighter 3rd strike
the order doesnt even really matter and im missing some good ones, but that original list is terrible.
ssbm is for ppl who arent good at traditional fighting games. ive actually had real life experience with this
I learned enough of ssbm in a month of casual play to be equal with ppl playing ssbm for years. At the same time playing against me in street fighter, soul calibur, or vf is a huge blow out. These ppl were also hardcore gamers around my age. Of course I wont beat a pro smash player, but i cant beat a pro player of anything.
9. xmen vs sf
8-Street Fighter 3 Alpha
7-SC
6-KoF '98
5-Street Fighter 2
4-Garou: MotW
3-Last Blade 2
2-VF5
1-Street Fighter 3rd strike
the order doesnt even really matter and im missing some good ones, but that original list is terrible.
ssbm is for ppl who arent good at traditional fighting games. ive actually had real life experience with this
I learned enough of ssbm in a month of casual play to be equal with ppl playing ssbm for years. At the same time playing against me in street fighter, soul calibur, or vf is a huge blow out. These ppl were also hardcore gamers around my age. Of course I wont beat a pro smash player, but i cant beat a pro player of anything.
MisterHero
Super Member
You know maybe I should be okay with people trying to dismiss SSBM. I mean Nintendo is unapologetic when they made a huge freaking amount of money on it, and huge amount of sales will probably inspire some sort of giant competitive audience, especially when Brawl rolls around with WiFi.
I mean some fighters people mention ARE good, but do many people play them anymore? By this I'm thinking especially of SNK fighters (even though I personally love them).
I mean some fighters people mention ARE good, but do many people play them anymore? By this I'm thinking especially of SNK fighters (even though I personally love them).
MisterHero
Super Member
That's why every installment of Street Fighter had to be revised at least twice, and KoF with yearly installments.nesmar said:
Are you saying that Melee (and soon Brawl) isn't affording its players a quality gaming experience? :lol
And every fighting game on your list is a sequel to another fighting game. Way to go.
twinturbo2
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Not really.Halycon said:
My opinon? Smash Bros. isn't a real fighting game. Stuff like Virtua Fighter, Street Fighter, Tekken, those are real fighting games. Smash Bros. is more of a party game to me. Bring over three friends, get wasted, and have fun. That's the niche that Smash Bros. is in, IMHO.
HitokiriNate85
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First off, that list was mostly shit, and for reasons some of you guys probably cited already. Reload at 10 with KI and MK2 taking 4 and 5?:lol :lol Yeah...right. Whoever made the list definitely left the popularity these games experienced influence their decision. Just because they experienced immense popularity during the early to mid-90's doesn't make them some of the best fighting games. I mean, I loved both of those games, too, but come on. And I can't say anything about DoA4 having never played that iteration, but I would imagine some people would disagree with that.
Where the hell is CVS2? I expected both that and Garou to make the cut.
Beyond that I'm not going to get into the order in which the other games were on the list; at least they were justified. And to whoever is complaining about voice acting. It's a fighting game. You could essentially leave it out altogether and it wouldn't affect the overall quality. It's generally relegated to a few screams and a one-liner before or after the fight.
Not that I wouldn't expect it from GAF, but whoever is saying that SSBM isn't a fighting game, or "ssbm is for ppl who arent good at real fighting games," is clearly just hating or doesn't know what they're talking about. Just leave them think what they want. It's not like it's going to affect the rest of us.
Where the hell is CVS2? I expected both that and Garou to make the cut.
Beyond that I'm not going to get into the order in which the other games were on the list; at least they were justified. And to whoever is complaining about voice acting. It's a fighting game. You could essentially leave it out altogether and it wouldn't affect the overall quality. It's generally relegated to a few screams and a one-liner before or after the fight.
Not that I wouldn't expect it from GAF, but whoever is saying that SSBM isn't a fighting game, or "ssbm is for ppl who arent good at real fighting games," is clearly just hating or doesn't know what they're talking about. Just leave them think what they want. It's not like it's going to affect the rest of us.
"Hey, you want to come over to play some smash?"twinturbo2 said:
"Yeah sure, hang on I'll call some other people"
Cue 5 hours of 4 stock 1v1 Final Destination.
I'd say that the scenario outlined above is much more common than yours.
WTF is DOA4, MK2 (admit it, we were all wowed by its "lifelike" digitized graphics, array of secrets, and gore... but it doesn't hold up compared to what Capcom and SNK were doing back then), and Killer Instinct doing on this list... and no SNK games? Put on Garou, SS2, or KOFXI at least. Melee isn't exactly the most technical fighting game but it's got fun in spades, nothing beats 4 player melees against highly skilled players, addicting as hell game, whether or not it should be on the list is a whole can of worms in itself.
Well, then again, this is ScrewAttack, who considers Wrecking Crew one of the 10 worst Mario games ever made, so their top 10 lists are total rubbish.
Well, then again, this is ScrewAttack, who considers Wrecking Crew one of the 10 worst Mario games ever made, so their top 10 lists are total rubbish.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
twinturbo2 said:
Yes, fighting games can be fun, don't troll Smash Bros just because it is easier to control than the games you mentioned.
I really like the series because it is easy to get in, but very difficult to master (I could kick your ass any day in that game).
And for a game that sells above 6 million I don't know if you could classify it as in a niche.
I would love to see other fighting games with the controls of Smash Bros, because memorizing combinations and having awkward controls is not in my definition of fun.
minor effort
Banned
I won't argue with the #1 choice, but I'm having trouble with many of these choices. Mortal Kombat II was fun back in the day, I'll grant that, but it doesn't need to be so high on any Top 10.
Killer Instinct is even more WTF. I wasn't impressed with the game back in 1995, and I sure as hell wouldn't place it on any list today. My guess is Rare fanboyism filtered into a supposed list on fighting games.
Yeah, I would have had KOF'98 on here for sure. And Last Blade 2. And maybe Samurai Spirits 2.
Killer Instinct is even more WTF. I wasn't impressed with the game back in 1995, and I sure as hell wouldn't place it on any list today. My guess is Rare fanboyism filtered into a supposed list on fighting games.
Yeah, I would have had KOF'98 on here for sure. And Last Blade 2. And maybe Samurai Spirits 2.
radios shipping overview
Member
blech, another screwattack thread.
twinturbo2 said:
The funny thing is, this is an important dynamic of any semi-popular fighter these days. You think the millions of people who bought SC2 don't do anything more than mash with their friends at parties? Why people like to single out SSBM I don't know (well actually I do).
Holy Order Sol
Member
Dr.Hadji said:
Well please tell me, I still wonder about this. If you can't be arsed to elaborate because you already did before (which I could understand), please give me a link to where you've already adressed this (I suppose this has been brought up at SWF as well). Because I can't really think of anything other than "Nintendo characters" and "if it doesn't have life meters and wins by KO it's not a fighting game". Both of which being retarded reasons obviously.
I think Smash brothers did deserve to be on the list.Not that high,but I saw some play at Evo East and I was pretty impressed.I got respect for that game and some of the players.
What I don't have respect for,is when the rabid fans of the game think their game is the deepest and greatest shit to ever grace mankind when in reality their game is JUST starting to be accepted by the community after being close to 7 years old
What I don't have respect for,is when the rabid fans of the game think their game is the deepest and greatest shit to ever grace mankind when in reality their game is JUST starting to be accepted by the community after being close to 7 years old
MisterHero
Super Member
:lolDavidDayton said:
Well you have to wonder why the fighting genre is so 'important'. Especially since every modern fighter has been impacted by SFII in one way or another. I know it's purely anecdotal, but I remember when SFII first came out, EVERYONE played it, creating the demand for competitors to create their own fighters (SNK are the easiest to acknowledge in this manner).
SNK all-in-1 machines (most commonly with AoF, Samurai Shodown, King of the Monsters, World Heroes), VF, Tekken, Darkstalkers, SoulEdge, Primal Rage were all lined up next to it and the 3-4 arcades I lived near, but SFII was the most popular one.
Despite all the Smash-dissing, I'd gladly welcome Ryu to Smash Bros.
MisterHero said::lol
I'd gladly welcome Ryu to Smash Bros.
YES.
Actually, no.
Anyway, as an avid smash player... I'd have to say that SSBM has the technical elements to be classified as a fighter (frame counting, priority, range, move-cancelling, etc), but the whole style of the game puts it in a different genre related to fighting games. I'd say it's more of a 4 player beat-em-up style game that's versus as opposed to co-op.
Chao said:
Players who play in "animecon tournaments", LOL.
FWIW, I don't mind Smash being on a list of top fighting games at all. Smash being that high on the list is something I don't agree with (I'd put it somewhere around #5 or #6) but excluding a game like Smash is very short-sighted.
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