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Youtube supporting 60fps uploads starting today (chrome only for now)

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Nzyme32

Member
AmyS said:
So, no 1080p|60fps for PS4 Youtube at all right now ? Damn.

I thought some people said some 60fps videos worked on PS4:





Doesn't work for me, on either the Youtube app using the browser.
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Wouldn't worry too much on this. I don't think any youtube apps are up to date for it yet. Even the android app doesn't support it just yet
 
L

Lettuce

Member
I now cant watch any HD (720/1080p) videos on Youtube with FireFox now just get the buffering icon on the screen constantly. Anyone else have this issue?
 
L

Liseda

Member
If you use Linux and Firefox you "can't" (technically you can but Google doesn't want you to) use this because no Encrypted Media Extensions support.

You can easily watch anything by using youtube-dl though, just list the formats available with
Code: 
youtube-dl -F [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY[/url]
Get a similar output like this:
Code: 
[info] Available formats for W966SasCwWY:
format code extension resolution  note 
139         m4a       audio only  DASH audio   49k , audio@ 48k (22050Hz), 1.39MiB (worst)
140         m4a       audio only  DASH audio  129k , audio@128k (44100Hz), 3.70MiB
141         m4a       audio only  DASH audio  255k , audio@256k (44100Hz), 7.35MiB
160         mp4       230x144     DASH video  112k , video only, 3.07MiB
133         mp4       384x240     DASH video  251k , video only, 7.06MiB
[B][U]298[/U][/B]         mov       1152x720    DASH video 3308k , h264, [B][U]60fps[/U][/B], video only, 78.85MiB
Use the format code for the 60fps format
Code: 
youtube-dl -f [B]298[/B]+bestaudio [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY[/url]
If you get no sound, specify the audio format code too :
Code: 
youtube-dl -f 298+[B]141[/B] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY[/url]

You could pipe youtube-dl and mpv together like this and make it play the video when its downloaded and remove it after. (this could be dangerous because it tries to rm'ing the filename so that's why I change the output from the video title to the video id instead to prevent stuff happening because someone decides to name youtube clips ";rm -rf / --no-preserve-root"
Code: 
youtube-dl -o '%(id)s.%(ext)s' -f 299+bestaudio "$1" --exec 'mpv {};rm {}'
 
J

jacksepticeye

Member
It's a fine addition and it's about damn time they did it, only thing that sucks is now processing times are much longer than normal and videos take longer to process not only to HD now but also the higher framerates.
 
link1201

link1201

Member
Just saw this option while browsing with IE and wow I am really glad they gave this option. The Halo MCC videos are so much nicer now.
 
S

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
Sectus said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp3hYnbNODc

Batman: Arkham City, Joker's Carnival challenge at 60fps. Edit: Dunno if it's only on my end, but youtube destroyed the quality on this one. Maybe it doesn't like that much motion.
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It's pretty clear that 30fps destroys animation worse than the compression destroys the graphics. Animators that take pride in their work should be advocating hard for 60fps support on the consoles.
 
O

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
I do have to wonder, all this bandwidth has to cost a fuckton of money. I know it''s Google and all, but still, isn't this a massive money sink?
 
N

Nzyme32

Member
Oblivion said:
I do have to wonder, all this bandwidth has to cost a fuckton of money. I know it''s Google and all, but still, isn't this a massive money sink?
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I think the intention would be that this is offset by increased traffic, as well as curbing competitors to a certain degree. I'd be fairly certain the gaming audience is pretty valuable to youtube
 
S

SuperEpicGuy

Banned
Oblivion said:
I do have to wonder, all this bandwidth has to cost a fuckton of money. I know it''s Google and all, but still, isn't this a massive money sink?
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You know how many videos are being uploaded and watched as we speak? This won't be that much more taxing as not many people are using it. Plus it's using the new vp9 codec which halves the bandwidth for a similar looking video.
 
F

Falk

that puzzling face
Nzyme32 said:
I think the intention would be that this is offset by increased traffic, as well as curbing competitors to a certain degree. I'd be fairly certain the gaming audience is pretty valuable to youtube
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Sports also benefits greatly from 60fps.
 
S

Shadow Hog

Member
Final Fantasy IV... at 480p60? I didn't even know that was a possible thing! (On YouTube, specifically.)

Falk said:
Sports also benefits greatly from 60fps.
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A lot of old '80s/'90s sitcoms are 60FPS, too, to my recollection; interlaced, I believe, but still, higher than 30. So, I'm curious to see if new uploads of, say, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air or Home Improvement episodes will be at a higher framerate too.
 
J

jimi_dini

Member
Shadow Hog said:
A lot of old '80s/'90s sitcoms are 60FPS, too, to my recollection; interlaced, I believe
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D

Danji

Member
I was just about to do a month-full of Sonic videos. The timing on this couldn't have been better! It turns out deinterlacing 480i to 480p can get a little weird though.

Random deinterlacing stuff: Genesis looks better with a line double method (cause its 240p) and ps2 unfortunately needs YADIF. Yadif causes some random artifacts that look bad per-frame but getting those games running at 60 improves how it looks enough to warrant it.



I wouldn't upload to YouTube at 480p60 because the quality will just plain suck. I've done comparisons between 1080p and 720p with retro games (Sonic CD) and the difference is noticeable.
 
S

StarCreator

Member
Danji said:
I was just about to do a month-full of Sonic videos. The timing on this couldn't have been better! It turns out deinterlacing 480i to 480p can get a little weird though.

Random deinterlacing stuff: Genesis looks better with a line double method (cause its 240p) and ps2 unfortunately needs YADIF. Yadif causes some random artifacts that look bad per-frame but getting those games running at 60 improves how it looks enough to warrant it.

I wouldn't upload to YouTube at 480p60 because the quality will just plain suck. I've done comparisons between 1080p and 720p with retro games (Sonic CD) and the difference is noticeable.
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You would be better off using a scaler that understands 240p rather than try to capture it directly on a device that improperly handles the signal as 480i.
 
D

Danji

Member
StarCreator said:
You would be better off using a scaler that understands 240p rather than try to capture it directly on a device that improperly handles the signal as 480i.
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You're absolutely right. I don't have any RGB or video mods so I think the videos came out alright considering the Genesis Model 2's poor composite quality.
 
H

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
Liseda said:
If you use Linux and Firefox you "can't" (technically you can but Google doesn't want you to) use this because no Encrypted Media Extensions support.

You can easily watch anything by using youtube-dl though, just list the formats available with
Code: 
youtube-dl -F [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY[/url]
Get a similar output like this:
Code: 
[info] Available formats for W966SasCwWY:
format code extension resolution  note 
139         m4a       audio only  DASH audio   49k , audio@ 48k (22050Hz), 1.39MiB (worst)
140         m4a       audio only  DASH audio  129k , audio@128k (44100Hz), 3.70MiB
141         m4a       audio only  DASH audio  255k , audio@256k (44100Hz), 7.35MiB
160         mp4       230x144     DASH video  112k , video only, 3.07MiB
133         mp4       384x240     DASH video  251k , video only, 7.06MiB
[b][u]298[/u][/b]         mov       1152x720    DASH video 3308k , h264, [b][u]60fps[/u][/b], video only, 78.85MiB
Use the format code for the 60fps format
Code: 
youtube-dl -f [b]298[/b]+bestaudio [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY[/url]
If you get no sound, specify the audio format code too :
Code: 
youtube-dl -f 298+[b]141[/b] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W966SasCwWY[/url]
You could pipe youtube-dl and mpv together like this and make it play the video when its downloaded and remove it after. (this could be dangerous because it tries to rm'ing the filename so that's why I change the output from the video title to the video id instead to prevent stuff happening because someone decides to name youtube clips ";rm -rf / --no-preserve-root"
Code: 
youtube-dl -o '%(id)s.%(ext)s' -f 299+bestaudio "$1" --exec 'mpv {};rm {}'
Click to expand...
Windows users can get youtube-dl using Chocolatey. However, to mux (combine) the audio/video it needs ffmpeg to be installed, too.

http://chocolatey.org/packages/youtube-dl

It's interesting that the 60FPS videos are in MOV containers.
 
Z

zXe

Member
I've found that when watching in 60fps that the framerate will drop or sometimes slow down on occasion, even when a video has been fully buffered. I've not seen a video from beginning to end yet where there aren't drops at some point. I've tested with chrome's hardware acceleration checked on and off in the advanced settings but I still get drops.

Testing with Fraps + Chrome 64bit

i5 3570K
GTX 970
8GB Ram
Windows 7 64
 
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